[Game] SK-Tower Of God! The Great War!!! #28

[XTMF]

Wasn't that part of the reason that kyte was suspect... dude you lynched kyte for his play now using him for defense... funny you said when almost half of the phase has ended... and looking things I am sure you have decided to lynch me

Of course it was part of the reason that I suspected Kyte, but there were other reasons as well, which I already told you about. Have you never been wrong about something before and had to change our game outlook? And I'm not really sure what you mean by 'funny you said when almost half of the phase has ended'. What are you trying to get at? And looking at thing, what does it matter if I've decided to lynch you? You realize you suspicion of me came after I said I was going to make a case on you, right?

 

[XTMF]

Fair enough. Now can you explain why my change of intention strikes you bad?

Because I don't see a town pattern of you changing your intentions; you've been flip flopping reads without explaining why or going into any detail.

 

[Houtarou]

Of course it was part of the reason that I suspected Kyte, but there were other reasons as well, which I already told you about. Have you never been wrong about something before and had to change our game outlook? And I'm not really sure what you mean by 'funny you said when almost half of the phase has ended'. What are you trying to get at? And looking at thing, what does it matter if I've decided to lynch you? You realize you suspicion of me came after I said I was going to make a case on you, right?

Well of course, but there is a fair difference between being wrong about something and using something akin to what you just qualified as scum intuitive, not just phase ago rip you from the right to use that as your defense. So yes this cannot be your defense mechanism here since you can't change things when it suits you

 

[Houtarou]

Because I don't see a town pattern of you changing your intentions; you've been flip flopping reads without explaining why or going into any detail.

I don't go into detail unless I am really sure about something or someone... it's not a pattern but a normal line of thinking... I am experienced enough to know how to appear town as scum while when I am town I don't give two shit about how I need to scum hunt and to be honest, it's way consistent players that you to look out for since how the hell they're so sure... where that confidence come from? Pits of hell?

 

[XTMF]

Well of course, but there is a fair difference between being wrong about something and using something akin to what you just qualified as scum intuitive, not just phase ago rip you from the right to use that as your defense. So yes this cannot be your defense mechanism here since you can't change things when it suits you

What the hell are you talking about here? First of all, you're acting like I was the only person who voted Kyte, even though he had nine votes last phase (including a vote from you that never moved either). And I can absolutely change things when I'm wrong, like that's crazy to me that you think that. I was wrong about Kyte being scum so why wouldn't that have some sort of influence on how I view the game? The fact is, you have zero against me and are trying to advocate that since I voted Kyte and was wrong, I'm scummy, despite half the players in the game voting for Kyte last day phase.

 

[Toujo]

where that confidence come from?

Experience.

 

[XTMF]

I don't go into detail unless I am really sure about something or someone... it's not a pattern but a normal line of thinking... I am experience enough to know how to appear town as scum while when I am town I don't give two shit about how I need to scum hunt and to be honest it's way consistent players that you to look out for since how the hell they're so sure... where that confidence come from? Pits of hell?

Ah, you should absolutely go into details since townies really don't have any reason to withhold information. And you said you've only been playing for one year and in that year of playing time, you played sporadically. Wasn't Kyte overly confident Ratchet was scum, yet he was town himself? Where did Kyte get that confidence from? The Pits of Hell?

 

[XTMF]

Also, where the hell is everybody this day phase?

 

[Houtarou]

What the hell are you talking about here? First of all, you're acting like I was the only person who voted Kyte, even though he had nine votes last phase (including a vote from you that never moved either). And I can absolutely change things when I'm wrong, like that's crazy to me that you think that. I was wrong about Kyte being scum so why wouldn't that have some sort of influence on how I view the game? The fact is, you have zero against me and are trying to advocate that since I voted Kyte and was wrong, I'm scummy, despite half the players in the game voting for Kyte last day phase.

Lol, now what you talking about? When did I say you were the only person who voted for Kyte? Right, You're just trying to find a forest without trees right now... It simply means you cannot use whatever Kyte did as your defense mechanism, being wrong is nothing new but how and where you're wrong means everything. The fact is you're trying to use very little reasons you have to paint me scum when you don't know what you're saying... half of the time you've been twisting what I am saying... you being wrong for Kyte has nothing to do with you being scum but how you're approaching the game afterwards

 

[XTMF]

Lol, now what you talking about? When did I say you were the only person who voted for Kyte? Right, You're just trying to find a forest without trees right now... It simply means you cannot use whatever Kyte did as your defense mechanism, being wrong is nothing new but how and where you're wrong means everything. The fact is you're trying to use very little reasons you have to paint me scum when you don't know what you're saying... half of the time you've been twisting what I am saying... you being wrong for Kyte has nothing to do with you being scum but how you're approaching the game afterwards

Okay, but if being wrong is nothing new, why does it seem like you're holding being wrong against me? I'm simply saying that since I was wrong about Kyte, I could be wrong about scum bussing Poison, meaning I need to reevaluate things. That's all. And if me being wrong about Kyte has nothing to do with me being scum, why on earth are you coming at me like this for explaining my change of mindset for this game?

Okay, so how have I approached the game after Kyte's flip?

 

[Toujo]

Also, where the hell is everybody this day phase?

Lurking, probably. Which tells me scum are pretty happy with how this day is going.

 

[Toujo]

but for real tho it's like 3 of us are playing with a couple of extras added in. are we just going to throw this day phase?

 

[XTMF]

Lurking, probably. Which tells me scum are pretty happy with how this day is going.

I really think you should reconsider on Hou and hope you will once I drop my case on him (it's coming, I promise).

 

[Houtarou]

Ah, you should absolutely go into details since townies really don't have any reason to withhold information. And you said you've only been playing for one year and in that year of playing time, you played sporadically. Wasn't Kyte overly confident Ratchet was scum, yet he was town himself? Where did Kyte get that confidence from? The Pits of Hell?

It was also part of the reason Kyte was lynched(lol) and everyone followed through so I wonder being inconsistent is townie or being consistent is townie? It's not about withholding information I only try to go deep with my reads when the time calls for it, I can explain my reads, it's not that hard... I just find it worthless to start explaining everything about everyone when I can only focus on one player so first I try to see what player strike me bad and then I try to go into deep

Also, When I read someone town I only defend them or bring out my read when they're about to get lynch not before since it will be pointless.... and yes Town do withhold information, it's not only scum who lies... we're playing mafia not truth and dare

 

[Toujo]

I really think you should reconsider on Hou and hope you will once I drop my case on him (it's coming, I promise).

You know, I'm probably going to have to just for self-preservation at this rate. It's getting really tiresome and stressful being the counter wagon on every day phase. Especially with how votes here seem clustered to the very very ends of the day. I can't see how that helps town at all actually.

 

[Houtarou]

Okay, but if being wrong is nothing new, why does it seem like you're holding being wrong against me? I'm simply saying that since I was wrong about Kyte, I could be wrong about scum bussing Poison, meaning I need to reevaluate things. That's all. And if me being wrong about Kyte has nothing to do with me being scum, why on earth are you coming at me like this for explaining my change of mindset for this game?

Okay, so how have I approached the game after Kyte's flip?

I have no idea why you're getting that impression from my post when it's not even my reason to think you're bad. The last phase I thought I am just behind Kyte in a matter of getting lynched and it was understandable since I did push for Toujo but when this phase started the things were same I am still the easy lynch, it's sound odd when I say that to myself but true none the less. I can't fathom this... what perspective change you got from kyte lynch that you think I am scum now

 

[XTMF]

It was also part of the reason Kyte was lynched(lol) and everyone followed through so I wonder being inconsistent is townie or being consistent is townie? It's not about withholding information I only try to go deep with my reads when the time calls for it, I can explain my reads, it's not that hard... I just find it worthless to start explaining everything about everyone when I can only focus on one player so first I try to see what player strike me bad and then I try to go into deep

Also, When I read someone town I only defend them or bring out my read when they're about to get lynch not before since it will be pointless.... and yes Town do withhold information, it's not only scum who lies... we're playing mafia not truth and dare

Maybe town withhold information when it comes to abilities, but not with reads or votes. If you think townies lie about that, then I don't know what to say.

 

[Tigerrr in the woods]

it was a tactic on day 1 but now I just don''t have the energy

This kind of lack of motivation makes me wanna doubt my thoughts on you again and again lol.

 

[Houtarou]

Maybe town withhold information when it comes to abilities, but not with reads or votes. If you think townies lie about that, then I don't know what to say.

Great. To each their own I guess

 

[XTMF]

I have no idea why you're getting that impression from my post when it's not even my reason to think you're bad. The last phase I thought I am just behind Kyte in a matter of getting lynched and it was understandable since I did push for Toujo but when this phase started the things were same I am still the easy lynch, it's sound odd when I say that to myself but true none the less. I can't fathom this... what perspective change you got from kyte lynch that you think I am scum now

Nowhere in here do you talk about how I've played after Kyte's flip, but instead you launched into more of a defense for yourself? Do you really think you are the easy lynch? Why isn't there more votes on you then? I've already explain like four times why my perspective has changed, because I was fucking wrong about Kyte; how hard it that to understand? I was wrong, so I'm reevaluating. I also just lost a game on TMF where I blew out anti-town because I wasn't looking at the whole picture. It really isn't that hard to understand.

Now one more time, how exactly have I played differently since Kyte's flip that has warranted suspicion from you? Also, you said that people should vote me because I'm a 'nuisance'. Explain that one as well.