[Game] SK-Tower Of God! The Great War!!! #28

[TheLukundo]

Nvm. Just actually got what you were saying.

 

[beeboat]

You saw me play scum in Lilo...

What?

Even if I didn't see you play scum recently as in.
Even if lilo was not a game.

 

[XTMF]

If you believe two people to be scum, you should believe that their interactions are w/w or you’ve gone wrong somewhere. If you can’t do it without a flip with one of us try assumptions.

I think that's faulty logic. Before you get your first wolf flip, you should always go after the players you think are the most scummiest, even if there are no hints within their interactions that they could be w/w. So if I have A and B as my top two scum reads, but there is little evidence to link them, it shouldn't matter until one of them actually flips.

 

[Toujo]

When did i not follow my criteria? who said though i have to stick with a pattern? My thoughts have a free flow.

Your criteria had Luk acting more seriously as town. That was not my impression of his posting, particularly at the start of the day phase. In fact it was quite the opposite - behaviour which you described as NAI. Do you see my issue here?

Yes you are missing something and this is visible in the previous post where you present scum reads without town reads except one iirc and say i may fit in scum area for a reason you mentioned. You don't try to solve the game you try to find a lynch here and idk if you care about it.

You're conflating seperate points here. By missing something, I'm referring to what I'm missing in regards to how you read Luk. As for not having enough town reads, I mean not really. I've got my vote on one person right now, and it's on none of the three on my scum list. To claim I'm simply looking for mislynch bait here is a horrible mischaracterisation of my play thus far, which makes me think you're either not playing attention or your're baiting.

I think this is not a towny approach and my vote will stay on you.

Elaborate on this.

 

[Poison]

Please do.

So, here's what happened till now.
I randed scum 4 times, and 1 time turbo
I won in the turbo, because Kyte here sacrificed himself.

In the 4 games,
I subbed out of the three games as early as DP1 except for one game Where I played dp1 but was subbed out by the mod cause of not meeting the post requirements)
And I played one game as scum with @Ansatsuken here, which was the most passive game I ever played.

 

[Michelle]

Fucking hell...

Why are you dissapointed?

 

[Toujo]

ARE YOU JOKING

20 players? I would assume 4-5 scum, and perhaps 1 serial. That's two scum groups, though serial is often conflated with indie.

 

[TheLukundo]

I think that's faulty logic. Before you get your first wolf flip, you should always go after the players you think are the most scummiest, even if there are no hints within their interactions that they could be w/w. So if I have A and B as my top two scum reads, but there is little evidence to link them, it shouldn't matter until one of them actually flips.

If they seem actively not scum together and you SR both of them, are you seriously going to say you’re gonna push them both all the same instead of reeval?

 

[Toujo]

So, here's what happened till now.
I randed scum 4 times, and 1 time turbo
I won in the turbo, because Kyte here sacrificed himself.

In the 4 games,
I subbed out of the three games as early as DP1 except for one game Where I played dp1 but was subbed out by the mod cause of not meeting the post requirements)
And I played one game as scum with @Ansatsuken here, which was the most passive game I ever played.

So... where is the meta here? Am I to take you not subbing out as alignment indicative?

 

[TheLukundo]

Why are you dissapointed?

Poison and X seems like something that is just gonna take up thread space and be useless af

 

[Poison]

Okay it's 9:20 I can't be here. I would return after idk a lot of hours. 72 hours. I'm blessed. Reason : I'm playing another game. And that's kinda important too. Bubye. If you have questions for me do mention if. I will reply to them as early as possible.

 

[TheLukundo]

20 players? I would assume 4-5 scum, and perhaps 1 serial. That's two scum groups, though serial is often conflated with indie.

...

ok

 

[XTMF]

@Michelle you should stop me If I go here like I went for Naomi. I have a bad feeling I would argue like that.

The point of me asking you to quote was not because I dont know what I posted but it's because I KNOW WHAT I POSTED and I wanted you to quote it to prove it to you that you are completely wrong.

Okay, but that doesn't explain how me posting your quotes would prove me completely wrong. I mean, if YOU KNOW WHAT YOU POSTED and I KNOW WHAT YOU POSTED then I don't really see that point of getting quotes involved? The fact of the matter is that you called my reads forced two responses in a row and I am curious as to why you felt the need to emphasize I was forcing my reads twice.

PS The caps thing doesn't really do anything for me except make me think you're wolfy.

 

[Toujo]

If they seem actively not scum together and you SR both of them, are you seriously going to say you’re gonna push them both all the same instead of reeval?

This is not hard. If you read two players as scum, and you can't see them both working together, you push one, see the flip and then reexamine the other. You do not ignore scummy behaviour simply on the basis of them not being a partnership. That's scum logic.

 

[beeboat]

I am going to go ahead and town read Poison because I want to keep my team mafia teamy alive.
Haters gonna hate.

 

[Toujo]

Poison and X seems like something that is just gonna take up thread space and be useless af

No comment as to where you're siding? I think X has been all over Poison thus far.

 

[AL_sama]

Okay it's 9:20 I can't be here. I would return after idk a lot of hours. 72 hours. I'm blessed. Reason : I'm playing another game. And that's kinda important too. Bubye. If you have questions for me do mention if. I will reply to them as early as possible.

give your reads first

 

[Poison]

Poison and X seems like something that is just gonna take up thread space and be useless af

Can't help man, if he is gonna act like Naomi, I will go hard. I have problem with people jumping to conclusions rather than taking a second and trying to understand others point of view.

 

[Toujo]

...

ok

Do you disagree? I mean it's a little weird to be getting into this now before we've even had a night phase, but it seems like a common enougn estimate to me.

 

[TheLukundo]

This is not hard. If you read two players as scum, and you can't see them both working together, you push one, see the flip and then reexamine the other. You do not ignore scummy behaviour simply on the basis of them not being a partnership. That's scum logic.

No. You wouldn’t. Youd reeval because otherwise you’re blatantly setting up another lynch which is scummy af. Especially as you could just flip town now. “Oh these 2 aren’t scum but we’ll lynch one and if they flip town, we’ll flip the other”

THAT AINT A TOWN LOGIC