Can the sharingan copy the rasenshuriken

[Sagebee]

I think it should be able to copy the perfected form of the rasenshuriken only thing it won't be usable due to its recoil. Unless the sharingan can also easily help them learn sage mode which I don't think it can.

 

[HowDidIGetPrem]

hell no. naruto doesn't weave handsigns or anything for them to copy it. even if it did, i'm not sure they'd be able to execute the jutsu seeing as to how jiraiya and minato failed to do so.

 

[Umari Senju]

Yes. Well Rasengan anyway.
Didn’t Kakashi copy it from Minato? I think that’s how he learned it when he was training Naruto to perfect it.

Minato May have taught it to him I can’t remember. But yeah I think he used Copy Wheel to Copy it from Minato

Rasenshuriken? Probably, but they would probably just damage themselves using it like Naruto did pre Sage Mode Training

 

[Sagebee]

hell no. naruto doesn't weave handsigns or anything for them to copy it. even if it did, i'm not sure they'd be able to execute the jutsu seeing as to how jiraiya and minato failed to do so.

Sharingan doesn't need to see hand signs to understand the mechaniacs of the jutsu

 

[Im_not_Osama_bin_laden]

Rasengan sure.

Rasenshuiken....... well maybe although if they did they would probably sustain massive damage.

 

[salamander uchiha]

It can copy(memorise) anything and everything it sees, you must then have the skill or meet the necessary requirements to be able to use it. That would require some training like manifesting wind nature like Naruto did(from his hand) and forming a rasengan. Once the two conditons are met, then ues there's nothing stopping it being used.

An example or proof the Sharingan can copy anything is Madara. He copied(memorised) Hashirama's wood style, yet couldn't use it. Once he met the requirements(Hashi DNA giving Mokuton), he was able to use wood style with 0 problem.

 

[ShogunSpiderman89]

It can, but aside from Sarada copying Sakura's strength and Kakashi copying the Rasengan when Sharingan has copied a jutsu. It's only been shown to be temporary. Oh and if anyone wants to know why Sarada still has Sakura's strength and Kakashi can do the Rasengan I have theories for this.

Sarada spent a lot of time with Sakura, so it's possible that she could've fully developed it that way and Kakashi got his Sharingan from Minato and keep in mind that he wasn't with Minato when he got it, so it's possible that Minato may have
helped him with it.

Here are examples of when the Sharingan copying moves and being temporary.

Kakashi copying Zabuza's Water Style Jutsu.

As most of us know when Kakashi when Kakashi and Zabuza were fighting each other Kakashi copied Zabuza's water style jutsu, but we never see him do it again afterwards.

In Boruto when Sarada copied another shinobis water and lightning style jutsu she was never shown to do it again.

I just remembered Itachi. Considering how intelligent he is he could pretty figure out anything.

 

[Tauren Chieftain]

It can copy(memorise) anything and everything it sees, you must then have the skill or meet the necessary requirements to be able to use it.

Really surprising that more than 90 % of members don´t know this.
OT :
With this being said yes it can copy it , same goes for every non KKG jutsu. Also there is nothing to copy from SM you just need to learn to gather nature energy and mix it together with your chakra in required ratio.

 

[Xlad]

Yes.

 

[Sagebee]

It can copy(memorise) anything and everything it sees, you must then have the skill or meet the necessary requirements to be able to use it. That would require some training like manifesting wind nature like Naruto did(from his hand) and forming a rasengan. Once the two conditons are met, then ues there's nothing stopping it being used.

An example or proof the Sharingan can copy anything is Madara. He copied(memorised) Hashirama's wood style, yet couldn't use it. Once he met the requirements(Hashi DNA giving Mokuton), he was able to use wood style with 0 problem.

The sharingan can potentially copy any technique as noted Madara already knew Hashi wood release techniques. But he didn't learn wood release from copying it but his dna was necessary to use.

Even when it can understand the mechaniacs it's useless if they dint pass the physical requirements to copy.

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It can, but aside from Sarada copying Sakura's strength and Kakashi copying the Rasengan when Sharingan has copied a jutsu. It's only been shown to be temporary. Oh and if anyone wants to know why Sarada still has Sakura's strength and Kakashi can do the Rasengan I have theories for this.

Sarada spent a lot of time with Sakura, so it's possible that she could've fully developed it that way and Kakashi got his Sharingan from Minato and keep in mind that he wasn't with Minato when he got it, so it's possible that Minato may have
helped him with it.

Here are examples of when the Sharingan copying moves and being temporary.

Kakashi copying Zabuza's Water Style Jutsu.

As most of us know when Kakashi when Kakashi and Zabuza were fighting each other Kakashi copied Zabuza's water style jutsu, but we never see him do it again afterwards.

In Boruto when Sarada copied another shinobis water and lightning style jutsu she was never shown to do it again.

I just remembered Itachi. Considering how intelligent he is he could pretty figure out anything.

That doesn't mean its temporary it just not added to there regular fighting style.

 

[salamander uchiha]

The sharingan can potentially copy any technology as noted Madara already knew Hashi wood release techniques. But he didn't learn wood release from copying it but his dna was necessary to use.

Even when it can understand the mechaniacs it's useless if they dint pass the physical requirements to copy.

I think you mean he still needed to meet the requirements for use even though he copied everything. And I take it you're agreeing with me.

Really surprising that more than 90 % of members don´t know this.
OT :
With this being said yes it can copy it , same goes for every non KKG jutsu. Also there is nothing to copy from SM you just need to learn to gather nature energy and mix it together with your chakra in required ratio.

I know man, I'm just as dumbfounded. It's such a basic concept to grasp, yet it's lost on people.

 

[Sagebee]

I think you mean he still needed to meet the requirements for use even though he copied everything. And I take it you're agreeing with me.



I know man, I'm just as dumbfounded. It's such a basic concept to grasp, yet it's lost on people.

Nope since you said the sharingan can learn wood release which is incorrect.

 

[salamander uchiha]

Nope since you said the sharingan can learn wood release which is incorrect.

I didn't say that, perhaps you misunderstood. I said the Sharingan copies(memorizes) everything including KKG jutsu, but the user(Sharingan user) can't use them until they fulfil the conditions. So Madara copied wood release, but couldn't use it until he got Hashi DNA. When he got Hashi DNA he gained access to Mokuton.

Do you agree with this or not?

 

[HowDidIGetPrem]

I didn't say that, perhaps you misunderstood. I said the Sharingan copies(memorizes) everything including KKG jutsu, but the user(Sharingan user) can't use them until they fulfil the conditions. So Madara copied wood release, but couldn't use it until he got Hashi DNA. When he got Hashi DNA he gained access to Mokuton.

Do you agree with this or not?

Disagree and agree. The Sharingan can definitely memorize exact movements and whatnot, but I doubt it itself can see the inner workings of jutsu without handsigns. Hashirama's wood clones isn't really a good example for two reasons. The first is that Madara is absolutely ridiculous when it comes to understanding jutsu(maintaining Edo Tensei when Kabuto expelled it being the most obvious), and the second is that Hashirama weaves handsigns when using wood clones.

It SHOULD be able to do so theoretically though as Sasuke can see chakra on the smallest(nano) level and where it's concentrated, all he'd have to do is understand the direction of where that chakra goes and how much of it goes there at what times.

I just don't like the conflict it introduces in regards to the story. Here's one example: sharingan was mentioned to need handsigns, which it obviously doesn't, BUT handsigns are shit. How the **** do you know how to cast a specific genjutsu JUST off of the fact that someone used hand signs to meld and release chakra? You wouldn't know WHERE they're melding and WHERE they're releasing it, so the hand signs are entirely pointless. If you look at a Chidori, it's pretty obvious that the jutsu is just the concentration and shape manipulation of chakra, so hand signs ultimately add nothing in many scenarios.
To accept that the Sharingan doesn't need hand signs makes much more sense, but destroys the story in a way because of how terribly Kishi handled it.

 

[Sagebee]

I didn't say that, perhaps you misunderstood. I said the Sharingan copies(memorizes) everything including KKG jutsu, but the user(Sharingan user) can't use them until they fulfil the conditions. So Madara copied wood release, but couldn't use it until he got Hashi DNA. When he got Hashi DNA he gained access to Mokuton.

Do you agree with this or not?

Yeah my bad I misunderstood what you meant.

 

[salamander uchiha]

Disagree and agree. The Sharingan can definitely memorize exact movements and whatnot, but I doubt it itself can see the inner workings of jutsu without handsigns. Hashirama's wood clones isn't really a good example for two reasons. The first is that Madara is absolutely ridiculous when it comes to understanding jutsu(maintaining Edo Tensei when Kabuto expelled it being the most obvious), and the second is that Hashirama weaves handsigns when using wood clones.

It SHOULD be able to do so theoretically though as Sasuke can see chakra on the smallest(nano) level and where it's concentrated, all he'd have to do is understand the direction of where that chakra goes and how much of it goes there at what times.

I just don't like the conflict it introduces in regards to the story. Here's one example: sharingan was mentioned to need handsigns, which it obviously doesn't, BUT handsigns are shit. How the **** do you know how to cast a specific genjutsu JUST off of the fact that someone used hand signs to meld and release chakra? You wouldn't know WHERE they're melding and WHERE they're releasing it, so the hand signs are entirely pointless. If you look at a Chidori, it's pretty obvious that the jutsu is just the concentration and shape manipulation of chakra, so hand signs ultimately add nothing in many scenarios.
To accept that the Sharingan doesn't need hand signs makes much more sense, but destroys the story in a way because of how terribly Kishi handled it.

The Sharingan can also see chakra, so one would think it memories everything no like the changes, movement and concentration of it. Hand seals on their aren't enough to learn a jutsu without practising it, yet Sharingan users copy instantly. Although some jutsu have the special requirements.

The only thing it doesn't see is the network, although I think it sees that with retcon(Sarada's microscopic vison) may have been removed.

Spoiler: Sharingan databook 1

Sharingan 写輪眼
-----------------

This is konoha's finest clan, Uchiha Clan's bloodline limit. Within the clan, there is only a portion of the members, possess this special ability. The tomoe seal within the pupil is the special markings of the Sharingan. Sharingan is an observation eye, which is capable of exposing everything, an illusion eye capable of casting illusions and also an eye of jutsu copying capabilities. Just like in the battle between Kakashi and Zabuza, where it seems like it can predict the future, and using different combat methods, allowing the user to have unlimited defensive and offensive strategies.

Sharingan's observation eye, is one of the finest in doujutsu. Within split seconds, this observation eye is capable of exposing to the user all systems of Ninjutsu, Taijutsu and Genjutsu, also the movement and attacking path of the opponent, or the opponent's defences against fatal moves, evading movements from the user's attack, etc... These will enhance the overall combat abilities of the user in different situations. This petrifying ability is worthy of the title, "Heaven's Eye".

Plus the ability of copying, Sharingan, can wield its true capabilities... that is to copy and possess jutsus seen only once by the user. Regardless of whether its chakra molding or seals forming, all the under lying physics of the jutsu will be copied and remembered by the user in an instant. In order to weild the jutsu, the user must have sufficient chakra and also an able body that can withstand the demands of the jutsu. However, an Uchiha will not allow himself to be restricted by these conditions. This is because they will utilised their accumulated combat experience, and also bring out their potential when the need arises. The more critical the situation is, the more they are able to harness their potential to the maximum

Pay attention to the bold

Yeah my bad I misunderstood what you meant.

It happens.

 

[HowDidIGetPrem]

The Sharingan can also see chakra, so one would think it memories everything no like the changes, movement and concentration of it. Hand seals on their aren't enough to learn a jutsu without practising it, yet Sharingan users copy instantly. Although some jutsu have the special requirements.

The only thing it doesn't see is the network, although I think it sees that with retcon(Sarada's microscopic vison) may have been removed.

Spoiler: Sharingan databook 1

Sharingan 写輪眼
-----------------

This is konoha's finest clan, Uchiha Clan's bloodline limit. Within the clan, there is only a portion of the members, possess this special ability. The tomoe seal within the pupil is the special markings of the Sharingan. Sharingan is an observation eye, which is capable of exposing everything, an illusion eye capable of casting illusions and also an eye of jutsu copying capabilities. Just like in the battle between Kakashi and Zabuza, where it seems like it can predict the future, and using different combat methods, allowing the user to have unlimited defensive and offensive strategies.

Sharingan's observation eye, is one of the finest in doujutsu. Within split seconds, this observation eye is capable of exposing to the user all systems of Ninjutsu, Taijutsu and Genjutsu, also the movement and attacking path of the opponent, or the opponent's defences against fatal moves, evading movements from the user's attack, etc... These will enhance the overall combat abilities of the user in different situations. This petrifying ability is worthy of the title, "Heaven's Eye".

Plus the ability of copying, Sharingan, can wield its true capabilities... that is to copy and possess jutsus seen only once by the user. Regardless of whether its chakra molding or seals forming, all the under lying physics of the jutsu will be copied and remembered by the user in an instant. In order to weild the jutsu, the user must have sufficient chakra and also an able body that can withstand the demands of the jutsu. However, an Uchiha will not allow himself to be restricted by these conditions. This is because they will utilised their accumulated combat experience, and also bring out their potential when the need arises. The more critical the situation is, the more they are able to harness their potential to the maximum

Pay attention to the bold



It happens.

there's no out-of-stoory reason for the sharingan to NOT see chakra networks. to one-up your point about sarada, sasuke saw stuff on the nanoscopic level, which is smaller than microscopic.

 

[pachonga]

there's no out-of-stoory reason for the sharingan to NOT see chakra networks. to one-up your point about sarada, sasuke saw stuff on the nanoscopic level, which is smaller than microscopic.

El buena fanfikio......

 

[HowDidIGetPrem]

El buena fanfikio......

not at all.

 

[Gerkak]

In theory yes. In practice it depends on the user's capacity.