In the series is it possible to learn two different sage modes?

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We learn that it's possible to be contracted to two different summon classes is there anything stopping someone from learning two sage modes?
 

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Yes, why not? Using two seperate simultaneously might become a problem and be like a paradox. However, individually I don't see anh problem. The only ones that could likely use two sepertaely and them are the twins(Orochimaru's people). They have a KKG that allows fusion or something.
 

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Yes, why not? Using two seperate simultaneously might become a problem and be like a paradox. However, individually I don't see anh problem. The only ones that could likely use two sepertaely and them are the twins(Orochimaru's people). They have a KKG that allows fusion or something.
But even with a singular person I don't think there isn't anything in the series that suggests this isn't possible other than just getting over barrier of learning seperate sage modes and learning to balance them both which could be tricky since perfecting one is hard enough in itself.
 

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But even with a singular person I don't think there isn't anything in the series that suggests this isn't possible other than just getting over barrier of learning seperate sage modes and learning to balance them both which could be tricky since perfecting one is hard enough in itself.
I think the problem is balancing two separate sage mode in one body. Since you need to have a 1/3 balance, not a 1/6 balance for sage chakra. Also I think the source itself is different for each of them otherwise everyone would have a generic SM. That would require two types of nature energy being balanced at 1/3(impossible). Does that clear up the question?
 

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in theory yes in reality you need contract with frogs and snakes and you cant have both because they are opposites.
 

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I think the problem is balancing two separate sage mode in one body. Since you need to have a 1/3 balance, not a 1/6 balance for sage chakra. Also I think the source itself is different for each of them otherwise everyone would have a generic SM. That would require two types of nature energy being balanced at 1/3(impossible). Does that clear up the question?
I agree with your analysis.
 

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yea. the sage modes are all the same thing, they're just expressed differently. you may as well be asking if someone who knows chidori can learn rasengan. they're just manipulations of the same chakra. as i see it, it's not the contracts that give each sage mode its looks, but the methods the user was taught/uses.

Just look at Juugo and how he can form literal cannons by changing the shape of his body. Despite his SM having the same source as his clan, its still distinct. What are scales, pupils, or eye markings to literally forming cannons? Juugo could very well emulate Frog and Snake SM. The real issue is learning the techniques. it'd be like stealing the byakugan but not knowing the gentle fist style. Still P irrelevant though, the only Frog SM tech Naruto himself can use is Frog Kata yet he's considered a perfect user. Mitsuki's another example.
 

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Only for great experts of chakra control.

NE is NE, there isn't multiple types.

What there is is that the body/spirit of any individual has a tendency to manifest specific features when they use NE.

In addition to the above is that special locations inhabited by specific types/species of NE users will encourage a tendency towards their own features, since they take in as well as release NE from themselves. In a way, you could say their own spirit evolves the NE I. their specific location/village. That's why specific versions of SM require training at specific locations, instead of just a specific master visiting you wherever you are.

These combine to make the student process NE in such a way that their bodies will always take on specific traits (and powers). So to be able to take in multiple traits, a shinobi would have to be able to change their cells so that they react differently to the same NE. We know cellular rearranging is possible with characters like Konan and Suigetsu, but those require chakra control which I'm not sure can be doubled up (since the process of entering SM is a remix of basic chakra molding)
 
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