I feel like kishimoto wouldn’t of made naruto say nagato was way stronger then the other 6 pain if he was equal or a little weaker. It was a point intended right there and it was to show he was in a whole other league, this like saying Kankurō is weaker then his puppets when he is the one that’s actually giving him his chakra
And nagato didn’t really scrub naruto, only thing he was able to do to naruto was try and pull his soul out which he couldn’t, naruto never used his chakra arms to try and escape. You probably would say nagato would just absorb it but I don’t remember it ever being absorbed no matter how many people that he fought with that can absorb chakra so that when only make it fanfic if I’m right
Naruto actually did use his chakra arms to try and escape. That was when he made the Rasengan that Nagato absorbed. Nagato also absorbed the eight tails v2 chakra cloak directly from his body and Madara absorbed the nine tails chakra from a shinobi that he had his foot on. The chakra arms won’t help Naruto since they’re just chakra.
Nope, you're misunderstanding the argument. Itachi would solo them, but he also handled Nagato neg difficulty. The argument is Naruto gets arse raped by the paths. You can't use ABC logic in vs battles.
Naruto is a little slow, but Nagato had clear mobility issues. And his objective was to kill Naruto. At the original he had no killing intent as he was trying to capture the 9 tails. And yes Nagato scrubbed him, he was even going to kill him no problem had it not been for Itachi.
You need to go reread that chapter because nagato didn’t even hit naruto. Naruto jumped in trying to save bee and I guess for got about the lizard nagato was on and got caught. Nagato was trying to pull his soul out which he couldn’t if we go by how easy he was doing it in the left village, itachi came and saved him and bee but like I said in my last statement why not try to break free with his chakra arms. I believe if Kono broke free naruto can too
Naruto actually did use his chakra arms to try and escape. That was when he made the Rasengan that Nagato absorbed. Nagato also absorbed the eight tails v2 chakra cloak directly from his body and Madara absorbed the nine tails chakra from a shinobi that he had his foot on. The chakra arms won’t help Naruto since they’re just chakra.
We never seen naruto’ chakra cloak absorbed by anybody, and he used chakra arms to hold his soul but not to try and fight or cut the soul like itachi did
You need to go reread that chapter because nagato didn’t even hit naruto. Naruto jumped in trying to save bee and I guess for got about the lizard nagato was on and got caught. Nagato was trying to pull his soul out which he couldn’t if we go by how easy he was doing it in the left village, itachi came and saved him and bee but like I said in my last statement why not try to break free with his chakra arms. I believe if Kono broke free naruto can too
You need to re-read it, Naruto has danger/negative sensing so he would've picked up on. Naruro getting scrubbed here means getting handled neg difficulty like Konohamaru is in the Boruto series. The reason chakra arms don't work is because they're chakra and Nagato used Preta path and can use it to absorb away. You should just accept Naruto was a goner if not for Itachi. There's no way he stands a chance in the village against Pain.
You need to re-read it, Naruto has danger/negative sensing so he would've picked up on. The reason chakra arms don't work is because they're chakra and Nagato used Preta path and can use it to absorb away. You should just accept Naruto was a goner if not for Itachi.
He should of but like you would say it was plot armor. I said reread because you’re saying he scrubbed him when he didn’t even hit him, and like I said we never seen them absorbed before ain't you the one who always say if it didn’t happen in manga it fanfic. He might of be a goner but itachi saved him so he wasn’t or he might of find a way out but we will never know because itachi saved him
You need to re-read it, Naruto has danger/negative sensing so he would've picked up on. Naruro getting scrubbed here means getting handled neg difficulty like Konohamaru is in the Boruto series. The reason chakra arms don't work is because they're chakra and Nagato used Preta path and can use it to absorb away. You should just accept Naruto was a goner if not for Itachi. There's no way he stands a chance in the village against Pain.
You need to go reread that chapter because nagato didn’t even hit naruto. Naruto jumped in trying to save bee and I guess for got about the lizard nagato was on and got caught. Nagato was trying to pull his soul out which he couldn’t if we go by how easy he was doing it in the left village, itachi came and saved him and bee but like I said in my last statement why not try to break free with his chakra arms. I believe if Kono broke free naruto can too
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We never seen naruto’ chakra cloak absorbed by anybody, and he used chakra arms to hold his soul but not to try and fight or cut the soul like itachi did
I just told you Naruto’s chakra arm was absorbed by edo tensei Nagato along with his Rasengan. Go back and watch the episode or review the chapter it happened in, it happened in chapter 551 and it was in episode 299.
Nagato absorbed the eight tails v2 cloak, Madara absorbed a chakra cloak after stealing senjutsu from hashirama and the divine tree that Obito made absorb chakra had absorbed Naruto’s kyuubi avatar which reduced Naruto to base form.
I just told you Naruto’s chakra arm was absorbed by edo tensei Nagato along with his Rasengan. Go back and watch the episode or review the chapter it happened in, it happened in chapter 551 and it was in episode 299.
Nagato absorbed the eight tails v2 cloak, Madara absorbed a chakra cloak after stealing senjutsu from hashirama and the divine tree that Obito made absorb chakra had absorbed Naruto’s kyuubi avatar which reduced Naruto to base form.
I don’t no what happened on the anime but looks like he absorbed the rasengan in manga, madara absorbed red chakra that’s not what I am talking about. You don’t think it’s a difference in the red cloak and the one naruto got? The divine tree sucks the chakra from your core( like inside your body) I don’t think that’s the same as what the characters do
Plus if he absorbed bee V2 why not just do the same thing to naruto
He should of but like you would say it was plot armor. I said reread because you’re saying he scrubbed him when he didn’t even hit him, and like I said we never seen them absorbed before ain't you the one who always say if it didn’t happen in manga it fanfic. He might of be a goner but itachi saved him so he wasn’t or he might of find a way out but we will never know because itachi saved him
Preta path absorbs jutsu, chakra, tailed beast chakra and chakra cloaks so yes it absorbs them. That's not even a question up for debate, apologists may try to afford Naruro some cover but it doesn't work that way. And yes Itachi saved him, which isn't even a question.
So do you think MS sasuke that fought danzo can beat pain?? And kono actually got hit in those fights
Preta path absorbs jutsu, chakra, tailed beast chakra and chakra cloaks so yes it absorbs them. That's not even a question up for debate, apologists may try to afford Naruro some cover but it doesn't work that way. And yes Itachi saved him, which isn't even a question.
Depends, that is a tough one. Sasuke is an unstable and unpredictable character.
Naruto’s cloak never been seen being absorbed though or he didn’t get scrubbed because where I am from that means beat down bad is all I’m saying, and I’ve never questioned if itachi saved him I even said it twice but can you answer the question I asked? You said naruto should of been able to sense negativity but he didn’t so is that not plot armor?
So if you think ms sasuke can beat pain that means you think he can beat KCM Naruto lol
I don’t no what happened on the anime but looks like he absorbed the rasengan in manga, madara absorbed red chakra that’s not what I am talking about. You don’t think it’s a difference in the red cloak and the one naruto got? The divine tree sucks the chakra from your core( like inside your body) I don’t think that’s the same as what the characters do
Plus if he absorbed bee V2 why not just do the same thing to naruto
No I just read the chapter and watched the episode and it clearly shows Naruto’s chakra arm being absorbed in both of them. That’s why I gave you the episode and chapter numbers. Now you can deny it all you want but you’re wrong.
The divine trees bodily chakra absorption is the exact same absorption ability of the Rinnegan, Madara’s own absorption skill and Hashirama’s Wood dragon.
No I just read the chapter and watched the episode and it clearly shows Naruto’s chakra arm being absorbed in both of them. That’s why I gave you the episode and chapter numbers. Now you can deny it all you want but you’re wrong.
The divine trees bodily chakra absorption is the exact same absorption ability of the Rinnegan and Hashirama’s Wood dragon.
If you say so about the rinnegan wood dragon and divine tree being the same, but I just reread the chapter and it don’t look like he absorbed the arm you can say I’m wrong I can say you’re wrong but it’s all you the other person opinion. I don’t watch the anime because they add stuff to shows
If you say so about the rinnegan wood dragon and divine tree being the same, but I just reread the chapter and it don’t look like he absorbed the arm you can say I’m wrong I can say you’re wrong but it’s all you the other person opinion. I don’t watch the anime because they add stuff to shows
You can clearly see Naruto’s chakra palm being absorbed into the Rasengan while the Rasengan is also being absorbed. Then on the next page, the entire palm and ”forearm” are completely gone
You can clearly see Naruto’s chakra palm being absorbed into the Rasengan while the Rasengan is also being absorbed. Then on the next page, the entire palm and ”forearm” are completely gone
No I don’t because those are entirely different types of chakra arms. The one in 554 came directly from Naruto’s palm then was retracted back to him, the one used against Nagato came from Naruto’s back and can clearly be seen being absorbed into the absorption barrier around Nagato.
If you say so about the rinnegan wood dragon and divine tree being the same, but I just reread the chapter and it don’t look like he absorbed the arm you can say I’m wrong I can say you’re wrong but it’s all you the other person opinion. I don’t watch the anime because they add stuff to shows
The anime does add and change things quite often, like how everyone says that Madara switched from his Rinnegan to his EMS to cast genjutsu, that literally only happened in the anime. In the manga, Madara’s wood clones never even opened their eyes when they were created therefore they never had the Rinnegan activated.
No I don’t because those are entirely different types of chakra arms. The one in 554 came directly from Naruto’s palm then was retracted back to him, the one used against Nagato came from Naruto’s back and can clearly be seen being absorbed into the absorption barrier around Nagato.
Well I remember the fight with the tailed beast and it looked just like that when the chakra was coming back to naruto. I don’t know what page or chapter but it’s when he he got full chakra mode from kurama, and you see something still out there attached to his back on the page you say his arm was absorbed
I guess it could be getting absorbed though depending on how you look at it. I just always looked at it as him pulling the arm back in his body, but now looking at it again I guess you can say that’s a little of his arm in that bubble around nagato. I thought it was his rasengan now I’m looking at it like he disconnected from that part probably if it’s not his rasengan ..not really clear
Naruto’s cloak never been seen being absorbed though or he didn’t get scrubbed because where I am from that means beat down bad is all I’m saying, and I’ve never questioned if itachi saved him I even said it twice but can you answer the question I asked? You said naruto should of been able to sense negativity but he didn’t so is that not plot armor?
It doesn't need to be shown and it doesn'tmatter what type of chakra cloak it is. It's a chakra cloak made from tailed beast chakra it isn't above absorbtion, just like Killer Bee's wasn't. Even moku dragon was absorbing the cloak so stop making excuses.
So if you think ms sasuke can beat pain that means you think he can beat KCM Naruto lol
It doesn't need to be shown and it doesn'tmatter what type of chakra cloak it is. It's a chakra cloak made from tailed beast chakra it isn't above absorbtion, just like Killer Bee's wasn't. Even moku dragon was absorbing the cloak so stop making excuses.
That's not how match ups work, ABC logic doesn't apply to them, but yes I do.
I never said bee cloak couldn’t be absorbed, did moku dragon absorbed it?? I didn’t read the manga in a couple years now so forgot somethings, but not making excuses you the one that told me if it wasn’t shown in the manga then they don’t got that feat like 3 or so years ago. And I always consider naruto’s cloak to be different from what bee and the other tail beast had
I don’t take it as abc logic far as that, in my opinion, but now I know not to talk to you about certain things like naruto lol if you think MS sasuke can beat KCM
Nope, you're misunderstanding the argument. Itachi would solo them, but he also handled Nagato neg difficulty. The argument is Naruto gets arse raped by the paths. You can't use ABC logic in vs battles.
Naruto is a little slow, but Nagato had clear mobility issues. And his objective was to kill Naruto. At the original he had no killing intent as he was trying to capture the 9 tails. And yes Nagato scrubbed him, he was even going to kill him no problem had it not been for Itachi.
I may or may not reply again, but Itachi admitted to Kabuto that he didn't have the sensory awareness that Nagato had in chapter 580 and watching the battle it was clear that Nagato was stronger than all 6 Peins as well.
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KCM Naruto isn't slow either. He blitzed the 4th Raikage, while holding back as well as shown from chapters 544-45
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You should rewatch the battle again because it was also clear that Nagato was stronger than all the Peins and the only reason why Itachi was able to seal Nagato was because he fixed on Naruto and Killer Bee, meaning that Nagato was indeed more powerful than all the Peins and once again people can read from chapters 549-55 to see that Nagato is stronger than all of the Peins as well.
I may or may not reply again, but Itachi admitted to Kabuto that he didn't have the sensory awareness that Nagato had in chapter 580 and watching the battle it was clear that Nagato was stronger than all 6 Peins as well.
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KCM Naruto isn't slow either. He blitzed the 4th Raikage, while holding back as well as shown from chapters 544-45
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You should rewatch the battle again because it was also clear that Nagato was stronger than all the Peins and the only reason why Itachi was able to seal Nagato was because he fixed on Naruto and Killer Bee, meaning that Nagato was indeed more powerful than all the Peins and once again people can read from chapters 549-55 to see that Nagato is stronger than all of the Peins as well.
Bruh, you should stop ABC doesn'twork like that. Kabuto admitted Nagato had mobility issues and we know Edos are revived weaker than their original form.
I never said bee cloak couldn’t be absorbed, did moku dragon absorbed it?? I didn’t read the manga in a couple years now so forgot somethings, but not making excuses you the one that told me if it wasn’t shown in the manga then they don’t got that feat like 3 or so years ago. And I always consider naruto’s cloak to be different from what bee and the other tail beast had
I don’t take it as abc logic far as that, in my opinion, but now I know not to talk to you about certain things like naruto lol if you think MS sasuke can beat KCM
I think you missed the point a cloak of chakra is a cloak of chakra. Bee's just showed not even tailed beast cloaks are above absorbtion, that's all I was highlighting.
On MS Sasuke then that's up in the air, he's a temperamental fighter. And ABC is ABC is doesn't work, it all boils down to movesets and counters etc.
Bruh, you should stop ABC doesn'twork like that. Kabuto admitted Nagato had mobility issues and we know Edos are revived weaker than their original form.
We're obviously not going to agree here, but anyone who's watched the fight knows that Nagato is indeed stronger than all 6 Peins and they can also watch Naruto and Killer Bee vs Itachi and Nagato to see for themselves and they can also read chapters 549-55 to see for themselves and here's the fight as well.
I think you missed the point a cloak of chakra is a cloak of chakra. Bee's just showed not even tailed beast cloaks are above absorbtion, that's all I was highlighting.
I'm aware of this, but remember when Preta Path absorbed absorbed Senjutsu a the 2nd time he turned into stone and Naruto can make another cloak as well if he's in KCM well, so logically Preta Path would only absorb KCM to a certain extent as well similar to when Samehada absorbing Bijuu chakra from from Hachibi and yes I'm aware that Kisame dominated, but still.
