How strong is Adult Naruto without Kurama?

salamander uchiha · Apr 27, 2019

ShogunSpiderman89 said:
That translation isn't even accurate.

What Naruto said is that he had plenty of chakra by himself and not because and Kakashi was stating that Naruto's base chakra was 4x higher than Kurama and Yamato was sealing Kurama.

Did you just say a Viz translation where Naruto confirms he has plenty of chakra, and then tells the reason that he has plenty of chakra is because he's been getting the chakra that leaks out of the 9 tails his whole life, while he's boasting is incorrect? However, your own misinterpreted understanding of Kakashi's words is correct? :lmao:

What makes your case worse is during the training exercise Naruto went into a Kyubi state, so we know Kakashi was referring to that chakra, not the one that mixes with Naruto's and increases his reserves.

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Yamato is shown suppressing Naruto's KN state. And reference to suppression is made.

ShogunSpiderman89 · Apr 27, 2019

salamander uchiha said:
Bruh, did you tell me a Viz translation where Naruto confirms he has plenty of chakra, and then tells the reason that he has plenty of chakra is because he's been getting the chakra that leaks out of the 9 tails his whole life, while he's boasting is incorrect? However, your own misinterpreted understanding of Kakashi's words is correct?

VIZ gets stuff wrong as well. They translated 1 time that Naruto said that he failed the SCJ test 3x, when it was actually the clone jutsu and they also stated Hannabi was Hinata's brother when she was actually her sister. Kakashi clearly stated the Naruto's base chakra is 4x higher than his without Kurama and I already showef you where Yamato was sealing Kurama during the Rasenshuriken.

In fact that's why he can contain Kurama as Kushina explains here

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Kurama confirms that he has Kushina's Uzumaki DNA as well

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Did you just say a Viz translation where Naruto confirms he has plenty of chakra, and then tells the reason that he has plenty of chakra is because he's been getting the chakra that leaks out of the 9 tails his whole life, while he's boasting is incorrect? However, your own misinterpreted understanding of Kakashi's words is correct?

What makes your case worse is during the training exercise Naruto went into a Kyubi state, so we know Kakashi was referring to that chakra, not the one that mixes with Naruto's and increases his reserves.

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Yamato is shown suppressing Naruto's KN state. And reference to suppression is made.

I watched the whole training and you ignored that Yamato was still sealing Kurama afterwards and that wasn't even Naruto that tue Kyubii leaked through. That was a SC

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salamander uchiha said:
Did you just say a Viz translation where Naruto confirms he has plenty of chakra, and then tells the reason that he has plenty of chakra is because he's been getting the chakra that leaks out of the 9 tails his whole life, while he's boasting is incorrect? However, your own misinterpreted understanding of Kakashi's words is correct?

What makes your case worse is during the training exercise Naruto went into a Kyubi state, so we know Kakashi was referring to that chakra, not the one that mixes with Naruto's and increases his reserves.

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Yamato is shown suppressing Naruto's KN state. And reference to suppression is made.

I watched the whole training and you ignored that Yamato was still sealing Kurama afterwards and that wasn't even Naruto that tue Kyubii leaked through. That was a SC

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salamander uchiha said:
Did you just say a Viz translation where Naruto confirms he has plenty of chakra, and then tells the reason that he has plenty of chakra is because he's been getting the chakra that leaks out of the 9 tails his whole life, while he's boasting is incorrect? However, your own misinterpreted understanding of Kakashi's words is correct?

What makes your case worse is during the training exercise Naruto went into a Kyubi state, so we know Kakashi was referring to that chakra, not the one that mixes with Naruto's and increases his reserves.

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Yamato is shown suppressing Naruto's KN state. And reference to suppression is made.

Yamato stated that he was going to completly surpress going back after Naruto went 4 Tails against Orochimaru as well

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salamander uchiha said:
Did you just say a Viz translation where Naruto confirms he has plenty of chakra, and then tells the reason that he has plenty of chakra is because he's been getting the chakra that leaks out of the 9 tails his whole life, while he's boasting is incorrect? However, your own misinterpreted understanding of Kakashi's words is correct?

What makes your case worse is during the training exercise Naruto went into a Kyubi state, so we know Kakashi was referring to that chakra, not the one that mixes with Naruto's and increases his reserves.

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Yamato is shown suppressing Naruto's KN state. And reference to suppression is made.

This is when the Kyubii mixes with his base form, which Kurama even says himself

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salamander uchiha · Apr 27, 2019

ShogunSpiderman89 said:
VIZ gets stuff wrong as well. They translated 1 time that Naruto said that he failed the SCJ test 3x, when it was actually the clone jutsu and they also stated Hannabi was Hinata's brother when she was actually her sister. Kakashi clearly stated the Naruto's base chakra is 4x higher than his without Kurama and I already showef you where Yamato was sealing Kurama during the Rasenshuriken.

Don't remember any of those mistakes Viz would've rectified them even if they existed. Since they haven't it's canon Naruto has a lot of his own chakra because he's been getting the 9 tails chakra that has been leaking out his whole life. As for the 4 times scan, I showed the only chakra Yamata was suppressing was the KN cloaks. And any mention of Naruto having 4 times Kakashi chakra includes the 9 tails chakra that became part of his reserves. Try and swallow that pill.

In fact that's why he can contain Kurama as Kushina explains here

Kushina never said anything about why Naruto can contain the 9 tails. And neither did that scan say she has a lot of chakra, it says strong chakra.

Kurama confirms that he has Kushina's Uzumaki DNA as well

So, who said Kushina had a lot of chakra or Naruto inherited it? She has strong chakra, which Naruto inherited? Kushina had red hair, different coloured eyes, straight hair, yin release, powerful life force. Naruto didn't inherit any of those from her so that's not really an argument to be made.

I watched the whole training and you ignored that Yamato was still sealing Kurama afterwards and that wasn't even Naruto that tue Kyubii leaked through. That was a SC

Shadow clones and Naruto share experience, they take their abilities from the original Naruto so no. And in the scans the real Naruto is shown floored and out cold not that it matters. The point is the context of suppression was suppressing the cloaks as Yamato can't suppress internal chakra which Naruto gets regardless.

ShogunSpiderman89 · Apr 27, 2019

salamander uchiha said:
Don't remember any of those mistakes Viz would've rectified them even if they existed. Since they haven't it's canon Naruto has a lot of his own chakra because he's been getting the 9 tails chakra that has been leaking out his whole life. As for the 4 times scan, I showed the only chakra Yamata was suppressing was the KN cloaks. And any mention of Naruto having 4 times Kakashi chakra includes the 9 tails chakra that became part of his reserves. Try and swallow that pill.

Kushina never said anything about why Naruto can contain the 9 tails. And neither did that scan say she has a lot of chakra, it says strong chakra.

So, who said Kushina had a lot of chakra or Naruto inherited it? She has strong chakra, which Naruto inherited? Kushina had red hair, different coloured eyes, straight hair, yin release, powerful life force. Naruto didn't inherit any of those from her so that's not really an argument to be made.

Shadow clones and Naruto share experience, they take their abilities from the original Naruto so no. And in the scans the real Naruto is shown floored and out cold not that it matters. The point is the context of suppression was suppressing the cloaks as Yamato can't suppress internal chakra which Naruto gets regardless.

Viz did get those translations wrong and no Yamato that he was completly sealing Kurama after Naruto went 4 Tails against Orochimaru

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You should recheck the scan because Kushina clearly states that she was chosen to contain Kurama because of his Uzumaki

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Kurama states that Naruto has Kushina's Uzumaki DNA, which means he can contain Kurama for that exact reason and did inherit lifeforce as you can see in the next 2 panels

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P.S You make up your own head canon and I'm aware of thw SC work as well

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salamander uchiha said:
Don't remember any of those mistakes Viz would've rectified them even if they existed. Since they haven't it's canon Naruto has a lot of his own chakra because he's been getting the 9 tails chakra that has been leaking out his whole life. As for the 4 times scan, I showed the only chakra Yamata was suppressing was the KN cloaks. And any mention of Naruto having 4 times Kakashi chakra includes the 9 tails chakra that became part of his reserves. Try and swallow that pill.

Kushina never said anything about why Naruto can contain the 9 tails. And neither did that scan say she has a lot of chakra, it says strong chakra.

So, who said Kushina had a lot of chakra or Naruto inherited it? She has strong chakra, which Naruto inherited? Kushina had red hair, different coloured eyes, straight hair, yin release, powerful life force. Naruto didn't inherit any of those from her so that's not really an argument to be made.

Shadow clones and Naruto share experience, they take their abilities from the original Naruto so no. And in the scans the real Naruto is shown floored and out cold not that it matters. The point is the context of suppression was suppressing the cloaks as Yamato can't suppress internal chakra which Naruto gets regardless.

Oh and even fans who say that Naruto and Sasuke both have plot armour will acknowledge that Naruto's base chakra is insanely high

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salamander uchiha said:
Did you just say a Viz translation where Naruto confirms he has plenty of chakra, and then tells the reason that he has plenty of chakra is because he's been getting the chakra that leaks out of the 9 tails his whole life, while he's boasting is incorrect? However, your own misinterpreted understanding of Kakashi's words is correct?

What makes your case worse is during the training exercise Naruto went into a Kyubi state, so we know Kakashi was referring to that chakra, not the one that mixes with Naruto's and increases his reserves.

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Yamato is shown suppressing Naruto's KN state. And reference to suppression is made.

Now I'm done replying to you

Pulkit singh3 · Apr 27, 2019

Normal Kage level as he got sage mode....

salamander uchiha · Apr 27, 2019

ShogunSpiderman89 said:
Viz did get those translations wrong and no Yamato that he was completly sealing Kurama after Naruto went 4 Tails against Orochimaru

I Said even if Viz did they fixed them, the translation is clearly canon and makes it clear Naruro has a lot of chakra because of Kurama chakra that has been receiving his whole life. I'm not interested in your head canon the manga makes it clear.

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This is a misunderstanding on your part since you're clearly ignoring Naruto confirming he has plenty of chakra since he has been getting the 9 tails chakra his whole life. In plain English that 9 tails chakra has become a part of Naruto's reserves. Further to this if Yamato was suppressing it completely as you take it then Naruto wouldn't have almost gone KN Mode against Sasuke in Orochimaru's cave. Yamato meant if you go nine tails or they I'm not going to let you, try and keep up.

You should recheck the scan because Kushina clearly states that she was chosen to contain Kurama because of his Uzumaki

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She doesn't say she was chosen because of lot of chakra, but because of her strong chakra? Yeah, she made chains from the strong chakra which could suppress the 9 tails so what's your point exactly?

Kurama states that Naruto has Kushina's Uzumaki DNA, which means he can contain Kurama for that exact reason and did inherit lifeforce as you can see in the next 2 panels

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Stop misinterpreting shit, Kushina was a Jin who had Naruto in her belly so that's what it's in reference to. Since nowhere does it mention he contains Kurama because of her blood? Learn to read and cut the crap? Anyway this scan is forced scene to justify Naruto's ass pull handed out Kurama's chakra, since Kushina never used Kurama's chakra.

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you can't be serious, Kushina a true Uzuamki survived child birth and 9 tails extraction. While Naruro pretty much died and needed Sakura to keep him alive? So how's he like an Uzumaki again? :lmao:

lmao:

P.S You make up your own head canon and I'm aware of thw SC work as well

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Oh and even fans who say that Naruto and Sasuke both have plot armour will acknowledge that Naruto's base chakra is insanely high

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Now I'm done replying to you

You're the only one making up head canon, here by ignoring a clear cut scan confirming the source of Naruto's chakra reserves is Kurama. The chakra mixed with his and became his, he even confirms it and yet your still in denial? He uses the words his whole life. So you know Yamato's suppression was referring to the KN cloaks and not the internal chakra right?

Yeah, those fans who acknowledge Naruto has plot armour also say his chakra reserves come from the Kurama chakra he's been receiving his whole life as Naruto confirms.

If you're done taking an L then :byez:

ShogunSpiderman89 · Apr 27, 2019

salamander uchiha said:
I Said even if Viz did they fixed them, the translation is clearly canon and makes it clear Naruro has a lot of chakra because of Kurama chakra that has been receiving his whole life. I'm not interested in your head canon the manga makes it clear.

This is a misunderstanding on your part since you're clearly ignoring Naruto confirming he has plenty of chakra since he has been getting the 9 tails chakra his whole life. In plain English that 9 tails chakra has become a part of Naruto's reserves. Further to this if Yamato was suppressing it completely as you take it then Naruto wouldn't have almost gone KN Mode against Sasuke in Orochimaru's cave. Yamato meant if you go nine tails or they I'm not going to let you, try and keep up.

She doesn't say she was chosen because of lot of chakra, but because of her strong chakra? Yeah, she made chains from the strong chakra which could suppress the 9 tails so what's your point exactly?

Stop misinterpreting shit, Kushina was a Jin who had Naruto in her belly so that's what it's in reference to. Since nowhere does it mention he contains Kurama because of her blood? Learn to read and cut the crap? Anyway this scan is forced scene to justify Naruto's ass pull handed out Kurama's chakra, since Kushina never used Kurama's chakra.

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you can't be serious, Kushina a true Uzuamki survived child birth and 9 tails extraction. While Naruro pretty much died and needed Sakura to keep him alive? So how's he like an Uzumaki again? :lmao:

lmao:

You're the only one making up head canon, here by ignoring a clear cut scan confirming the source of Naruto's chakra reserves is Kurama. The chakra mixed with his and became his, he even confirms it and yet your still in denial? He uses the words his whole life. So you know Yamato's suppression was referring to the KN cloaks and not the internal chakra right?

Yeah, those fans who acknowledge Naruto has plot armour also say his chakra reserves come from the Kurama chakra he's been receiving his whole life as Naruto confirms.

If you're done taking an L then :byez:

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I've never heard Viz once admit that they got a translation wrong. They stated in the English DUB that Naruto failed the SCJ twice when it was actually the clone and they translated in the Japense version that Hannabi was Hinata's brother when she was actually her sister, but it's not according to Kurama.

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Even if that translation was accurate, which it isn't Naruto still has a high amount without Kurama stated both during the tree climbing excercise and Rasenshutiken Training and Naruto still survived after the extraction and Sakura only did the CPR up until she met Minato as shown in chapters 664-66.

Kurama did say he has Kushina's blood when transferring blood and I'm not misinterpeting anything. You're just making up your head canon because Kurama clearly stated that he has Kushina's Uzumaki DNA right here

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Everyone else agrees me when they say that Naruto's base chakra is higher than Sasuke's without Kurama except for Alexa Anuna who's a Sasuke and you are clearly too.

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Edit: I could use the same logic for you as well when it comes to ignoring scans

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salamander uchiha said:
I Said even if Viz did they fixed them, the translation is clearly canon and makes it clear Naruro has a lot of chakra because of Kurama chakra that has been receiving his whole life. I'm not interested in your head canon the manga makes it clear.

This is a misunderstanding on your part since you're clearly ignoring Naruto confirming he has plenty of chakra since he has been getting the 9 tails chakra his whole life. In plain English that 9 tails chakra has become a part of Naruto's reserves. Further to this if Yamato was suppressing it completely as you take it then Naruto wouldn't have almost gone KN Mode against Sasuke in Orochimaru's cave. Yamato meant if you go nine tails or they I'm not going to let you, try and keep up.

She doesn't say she was chosen because of lot of chakra, but because of her strong chakra? Yeah, she made chains from the strong chakra which could suppress the 9 tails so what's your point exactly?

Stop misinterpreting shit, Kushina was a Jin who had Naruto in her belly so that's what it's in reference to. Since nowhere does it mention he contains Kurama because of her blood? Learn to read and cut the crap? Anyway this scan is forced scene to justify Naruto's ass pull handed out Kurama's chakra, since Kushina never used Kurama's chakra.

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you can't be serious, Kushina a true Uzuamki survived child birth and 9 tails extraction. While Naruro pretty much died and needed Sakura to keep him alive? So how's he like an Uzumaki again? :lmao:

lmao:

You're the only one making up head canon, here by ignoring a clear cut scan confirming the source of Naruto's chakra reserves is Kurama. The chakra mixed with his and became his, he even confirms it and yet your still in denial? He uses the words his whole life. So you know Yamato's suppression was referring to the KN cloaks and not the internal chakra right?

Yeah, those fans who acknowledge Naruto has plot armour also say his chakra reserves come from the Kurama chakra he's been receiving his whole life as Naruto confirms.

If you're done taking an L then :byez:

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Here's proof that Viz isn't always acccurate

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Edit:Jinchuraki die the moment the extraction. Naruto didn't and the WZ confirm this as well, which I showed earlier, but I'll show it again

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Edit: Naruto said that he has plenty of chakra by himself along with the Kyubii

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salamander uchiha · Apr 27, 2019

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I though you were done taking an L :lmao:

I've never heard Viz once admit that they got a translation wrong. They stated in the English DUB that Naruto failed the SCJ twice when it was actually the clone and they translated in the Japense version that Hannabi was Hinata's brother when she was actually her sister, but it's not according to Kurama.

Who gives a shit about dubbing mistakes? Didn't they fix it after it happened, if it did? We're talking about actual manga translation mistakes, which they never fixed. They haven't edited it, which means it's correct. The translation is canon and you need to accept it for what it is.

Even if that translation was accurate, which it isn't Naruto still has a high amount without Kurama stated both during the tree climbing excercise and Rasenshutiken Training and Naruto still survived after the extraction and Sakura only did the CPR up until she met Minato as shown in chapters 664-66.

It's accurate and it's canon deal with it, Naruro has large chakra reserves vecause he has been receiving Kurama chakra his whole life. In other words Kurama's chakra has been becoming Naruto's chakra.
And your making shit up, the difference between Kushin and Naruto is.

Kushina goes through child birth and then has the whole 9 tails ripped out of her, yet she's still concious and able to move. Oh and she was still strong enough to rstrain the 9 tails and even said she would take the 9 tails with her to her death vy resealing it.

Naruto has 50% Kurama ripped out of him is unconcious, and dying. He requires Sakura to keep him alive? How is Naruro anything compared to Kushina a full Uzumaki?

So his lifeforce is pathetic compared to a real Uzumaki like Kushina.

By tree climibing exercise Naruto had been receiving and Kurama's chakra had been mixing with his for more than 12 years. Of course he's going to have larger chakra reserves. By Rasen shuriken training Jiriaya loosened the seal to help Naruro get more kurama chakra so yes his reserves had jumped to 4 times Kakashi's. The thing your ignoring is that Kurama's chakra mixes with Naruto's and increases his reserves. That is sperate to the chakra he draws out in his chakra modes.

Kurama did say he has Kushina's blood when transferring blood and I'm not misinterpeting anything. You're just making up your head canon because Kurama clearly stated that he has Kushina's Uzumaki DNA right here

alrigh man lets accept your head can interpretation for a moment. Does Naruro have red hair? No. Does Naruro have Kushina's eyes? No. Does he have her Yin release? No. Does he have her chakra chains? No. I don't see how your head canon interpretation can be taken seriously.

That only leaves, Kushina being a Jin who had Naruto in her belly so that's what it's in reference to. Since nowhere does it mention he contains Kurama because of her blood? Learn to read and cut the crap? Anyway this scan is forced scene to justify Naruto's ass pull handed out Kurama's chakra, since Kushina never used Kurama's chakra.

Everyone else agrees me when they say that Naruto's base chakra is higher than Sasuke's without Kurama except for Alexa Anuna who's a Sasuke and you are clearly too.

Nope they don't unless they're Naruro fanboys.

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Well you can't make the same argument, since Naruto clearly confirms he has plenty of his own chakra and the reason he gives is the 9 tails chakra he's been getting his whole life. Every scan needs to be looked at in light of what happened and a clear canon statement from the horse's(Naruto's own) mouth

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Viz is offical and unless they say otherwise it's canon. I don't care for fanfiction or head csnon that your bringing. This isn't DBZ this is Naruto we're discussing.

Edit:Jinchuraki die the moment the extraction. Naruto didn't and the WZ confirm this as well, which I showed earlier, but I'll show it again
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Nowhere does it say they die straight away from extraction? All they're saying is everybody dies when the tailed beast is removed.

I already listed the differences vetween kushina a true Uzumaki and Naruto a half breed. I'll repeat it for you once again.

Kushina delivered Naruto, and then had 100% Kurama extracted from her. She was still alive and concious, she was so strong that she was able to move after all of that. She was even able to bind the 9 tails. She was so strong that she could re-seal the 9 tails and take it with her to her death.

Naruto had 50% Kurama extracted and he was on the deathbed like any other fodder. Sakura wqs forced to keep him alive. He's nothing like a real Uzumaki, not even close.

That's a wrap.

ShogunSpiderman89 · Apr 27, 2019

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you can't be serious, Kushina a true Uzuamki survived child birth and 9 tails extraction. While Naruro pretty much died and needed Sakura to keep him alive? So how's he like an Uzumaki again? lmao:

You're the only one making up head canon, here by ignoring a clear cut scan confirming the source of Naruto's chakra reserves is Kurama. The chakra mixed with his and became his, he even confirms it and yet your still in denial? He uses the words his whole life. So you know Yamato's suppression was referring to the KN cloaks and not the internal chakra right?

Yeah, those fans who acknowledge Naruto has plot armour also say his chakra reserves come from the Kurama chakra he's been receiving his whole life as Naruto confirms.

If you're done taking an L then

I though you were done taking an L :lmao:

I've never heard Viz once admit that they got a translation wrong. They stated in the English DUB that Naruto failed the SCJ twice when it was actually the clone and they translated in the Japense version that Hannabi was Hinata's brother when she was actually her sister, but it's not according to Kurama.[/QUOTE]

Who gives a shit about dubbing mistakes? We're talking about actual manga translation mistakes, which they never fixed. The translation is canon and you need to accept it for what it is.

It's accurate and it's canon deal with it, Naruro has large chakra reserves vecause he has been receiving Kurama chakra his whole life. In other words Kurama's chakra has been becoming Naruto's chakra.
And your making shit up, the difference between Kushin and Naruto is.

Kushina goes through child birth and then has the whole 9 tails ripped out of her, yet she's still concious and able to move. Oh and she was still strong enough to rstrain the 9 tails and even said she would take the 9 tails with her to her death vy resealing it.

Naruto has 50% Kurama ripped out of him is unconcious, and dying. He requires Sakura to keep him alive? How is Naruro anything compared to Kushina a full Uzumaki?

So his lifeforce is pathetic compared to a real Uzumaki like Kushina.

By tree climibing exercise Naruto had been receiving and Kurama's chakra had been mixing with his for more than 12 years. Of course he's going to have larger chakra reserves. By Rasen shuriken training Jiriaya loosened the seal to help Naruro get more kurama chakra so yes his reserves had jumped to 4 times Kakashi's. The thing your ignoring is that Kurama's chakra mixes with Naruto's and increases his reserves. That is sperate to the chakra he draws out in his chakra modes.

alrigh man lets accept your head can interpretation for a moment. Does Naruro have red hair? No. Does Naruro have Kushina's eyes? No. Does he have her Yin release? No. Does he have her chakra chains? No. I don't see how your head canon interpretation can be taken seriously.

That only leaves, Kushina being a Jin who had Naruto in her belly so that's what it's in reference to. Since nowhere does it mention he contains Kurama because of her blood? Learn to read and cut the crap? Anyway this scan is forced scene to justify Naruto's ass pull handed out Kurama's chakra, since Kushina never used Kurama's chakra.

Nope they don't unless they're Naruro fanboys.

Well you can't make the same argument, since Naruto clearly confirms he has plenty of his own chakra and the reason he gives is the 9 tails chakra he's been getting his whole life. Every scan needs to be looked at in light of what happened and a clear canon statement from the horse's(Naruto's own) mouth

Viz is offical and unless they say otherwise it's canon. I don't care for fanfiction or head csnon that your bringing. This isn't DBZ this is Naruto we're discussing.

Nowhere does it say they die straight away from extraction? All they're saying is everybody dies when the tailed beast is removed.

I already listed the differences vetween kushina a true Uzumaki and Naruto a half breed. I'll repeat it for you once again.

Kushina delivered Naruto, and then had 100% Kurama extracted from her. She was still alive and concious, she was so strong that she was able to move after all of that. She was even able to bind the 9 tails. She was so strong that she could re-seal the 9 tails and take it with her to her death.

Naruto had 50% Kurama extracted and he was on the deathbed like any other fodder. Sakura wqs forced to keep him alive. He's nothing like a real Uzumaki, not even close.
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He still survived the extraction. Regular die the moment the extraction happens. Naruto didn't and I already showed the scan where Kurama said that he had Kushina's Uzumaki Bloodline, which VIZ translates as well, so by your logic wouldn't be totally reliable and I also showed where the WZ confirmed that he was alive and you accuse me of ignoring facts. SMH.

Viz manga has been questioned on multiple occasions on how accurate it is and yes it has been inaccurate at points and I sent the links in my last comment as well, but here they are again

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No, Sakura only the CPR up until she met Minato

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After that she wasn't doing it anymore as you can see here as you can see in the next 2 panels

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Once again Naruto stated that he had a high amount himself and you didn't show a VIZ translation scan either. You showed a fan translated 1 in response to Naruto saying the Kyubii mixed with since birth, which it didn't. Minato set the seal that if any were to leak out it would be surpress and meshed with his chakra and in response to the translation I already showed a different version as well as Kurama backing up what I said as well. Oh and as for that's why the other Jinchuraki the moment the extraction happened and Gaara was only alive because of Chiyo

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This is when the Kyubii mixes with base form

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Once again Kakashi states that his base chakra is 4x higher without Kurama

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If it was Kurama Kakashi would've mentioned it like here for example

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Here's what Yamto states after Naruto goes 4 Tails against Orochimaru

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I already showed links where has made inaccuracies before and if you clicked on the links you'd know that I was also was referring to the manga as well, but here again and now I'm leaving

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salamander uchiha · Apr 27, 2019

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You're done again :lmao:

Ignoring your misinterpreting of Kakashi's words, due to head canon, and you calling this Viz canon translation as a fan translation? :lmao:

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Claiming Gaara was dead when we don't know how long after the extraction and without somebody keeping him alive how long he was alive?

Claiming Kakashi would've made the reference, when he's telling you the root of Naruto's stamina(constituent parts of chakra) is the 9 tails. Further reinforcing what I said.

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Jiraiya confirming the seal allows for the 9 tails chakra to mix and mesh with Naruto's. And that they actually mix and the 4th did that. The 4th did it when he was just born by the way.

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The toads confirm the 4th designed the seal so the chakra would mix with Naruto's and become one with his(a part of Naruto's chakra).

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Naruto confirming he has plenty of chakra of his own because of the Kurama chakra he's been getting his whole life?

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Kushina after childbirth and extraction is conscious, able to bind and seal the 9 tails again.

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Naruto after having 50% 9 tails extracted. No heartbeat or pulse = you're dead. Sakura pumps his heart and keeps him alive.

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Sakura was pumping Naruto's heart the whole time even when Obito was transferring the 9tails, gyuki and shukaku's chakra. Yeah, Naruto was dead and Sakura kept blood flowing the whole time.

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So far, we've established Naruto has large chakra reserves because of Kurama, and Naruto is nothing like a full blooded Uzumaki.

I think the case has been made :byez:

ShogunSpiderman89 · Apr 27, 2019

salamander uchiha said:
You're done again

Ignoring your misinterpreting of Kakashi's words, due to head canon, and you calling this Viz canon translation as a fan translation?

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Claiming Gaara was dead when we don't know how long after the extraction and without somebody keeping him alive how long he was alive?

Claiming Kakashi would've made the reference, when he's telling you the root of Naruto's stamina(constituent parts of chakra) is the 9 tails. Further reinforcing what I said.

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Jiraiya confirming the seal allows for the 9 tails chakra to mix and mesh with Naruto's. And that they actually mix and the 4th did that. The 4th did it when he was just born by the way.

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The toads confirm the 4th designed the seal so the chakra would mix with Naruto's and become one with his(a part of Naruto's chakra).

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Naruto confirming he has plenty of chakra of his own because of the Kurama chakra he's been getting his whole life?

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Kushina after childbirth and extraction is conscious, able to bind and seal the 9 tails again.

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Naruto after having 50% 9 tails extracted. No heartbeat or pulse = you're dead. Sakura pumps his heart and keeps him alive.

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Sakura was pumping Naruto's heart the whole time even when Obito was transferring the 9tails, gyuki and shukaku's chakra. Yeah, Naruto was dead and Sakura kept blood flowing the whole time.

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So far, we've established Naruto has large chakra reserves because of Kurama, and Naruto is nothing like a full blooded Uzumaki.

I think the case has been made

You take manga scans out of context and you didn't even post VIZ Translation. You posted fan translated 1 and even VIZ has had it's inaccuraciees

This is when the Kyubii mixes with his base chakra according to Kurama

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You skipped a few pages when it comes to the CPR and I already showed them in my last comment

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Once again you ignore that the WZ confirm that he was alive aftere the extraction as well

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You also left out what Gaara said to Sakura as well

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You're done again

Ignoring your misinterpreting of Kakashi's words, due to head canon, and you calling this Viz canon translation as a fan translation?

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Claiming Gaara was dead when we don't know how long after the extraction and without somebody keeping him alive how long he was alive?

Claiming Kakashi would've made the reference, when he's telling you the root of Naruto's stamina(constituent parts of chakra) is the 9 tails. Further reinforcing what I said.

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Jiraiya confirming the seal allows for the 9 tails chakra to mix and mesh with Naruto's. And that they actually mix and the 4th did that. The 4th did it when he was just born by the way.

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The toads confirm the 4th designed the seal so the chakra would mix with Naruto's and become one with his(a part of Naruto's chakra).

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Naruto confirming he has plenty of chakra of his own because of the Kurama chakra he's been getting his whole life?

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Kushina after childbirth and extraction is conscious, able to bind and seal the 9 tails again.

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Naruto after having 50% 9 tails extracted. No heartbeat or pulse = you're dead. Sakura pumps his heart and keeps him alive.

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Sakura was pumping Naruto's heart the whole time even when Obito was transferring the 9tails, gyuki and shukaku's chakra. Yeah, Naruto was dead and Sakura kept blood flowing the whole time.

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So far, we've established Naruto has large chakra reserves because of Kurama, and Naruto is nothing like a full blooded Uzumaki.

I think the case has been made

Oh and now I'm

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You're done again

Ignoring your misinterpreting of Kakashi's words, due to head canon, and you calling this Viz canon translation as a fan translation?

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Claiming Gaara was dead when we don't know how long after the extraction and without somebody keeping him alive how long he was alive?

Claiming Kakashi would've made the reference, when he's telling you the root of Naruto's stamina(constituent parts of chakra) is the 9 tails. Further reinforcing what I said.

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Jiraiya confirming the seal allows for the 9 tails chakra to mix and mesh with Naruto's. And that they actually mix and the 4th did that. The 4th did it when he was just born by the way.

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The toads confirm the 4th designed the seal so the chakra would mix with Naruto's and become one with his(a part of Naruto's chakra).

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Naruto confirming he has plenty of chakra of his own because of the Kurama chakra he's been getting his whole life?

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Kushina after childbirth and extraction is conscious, able to bind and seal the 9 tails again.

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Naruto after having 50% 9 tails extracted. No heartbeat or pulse = you're dead. Sakura pumps his heart and keeps him alive.

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Sakura was pumping Naruto's heart the whole time even when Obito was transferring the 9tails, gyuki and shukaku's chakra. Yeah, Naruto was dead and Sakura kept blood flowing the whole time.

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So far, we've established Naruto has large chakra reserves because of Kurama, and Naruto is nothing like a full blooded Uzumaki.

I think the case has been made

Editv I'm puttong you under the ignore button now

Tyris · Apr 27, 2019

ShogunSpiderman89 said:
Every you said was wrong. The only time Kurama ever helped him learn a jutsu was in chapter 95

1,000 isn't because of Kurama. It's his Uzumaki Chakra. Kakashi confirms this during the Rasenshuriken Training not to mention Kurama was being completely sealed by Yamato in chapter 317 and Naruto is still doing 1,000 SC. If you had watched you'd know this already

Once again Kakashi states that Naruto's base chakra is 4x higher than his without Kurama

You said Oodama Rasengan is because of Kurama? He did it while he was in Sage Mode in the Pein Battle and keep in mind that Kurama tried to prevent him from using it when Fukkasaku tried to fuse with shoulder.

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You're inaccurate when you say Kurama was the reason why the Rasenshuriken wasn't hurting his body. The Rasenshuriken stopped hurting him when he went into Sage Mode. If you watched the Pein Battle you'd know this
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i just can't take you seriously... you actin a right stan.. The mere fact yamato was present stops your arguement... TKB is only possible due to kurama passive buff... he literally depletes his reserves and rides on kurama hence variety of number in clones in TKB by product of the excess amount of chakra used until he could actually control the Ninetails chakra which controls the TKB number since he wasn't actually using 1k clones each time and also the need for tenzo to pull up and monitor kyuubi influence... you really need to go back and do research. Also without kurama chakra that training wouldn't have happened..20years I believe was the suspected and usual range as kakashi put it but due to bijuu he could powerhouse the training via TKB

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You're still way to generous to Naruto, without Kurama he would have Rasengan and a slim possibility of SM. I say slim because his chakra reserves would drop down to around Kakashi level. Naruto attributed his plenty of chakra(4 times Kakashi's) to Kurama chakra hes been getting his whole life. I dont know where people keep coming up with the fanfiction of Uzumaki is the reason for his reserves.

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You're right.. I was admittedly being a teeny but biased just help fanboys feel better and cry less about mangafax...

I agree that due to FPS Naruto's 4x more than kakashi extra wouldn't exist. These people will never accept manga fact though in this regard

ShogunSpiderman89 · Apr 28, 2019

Tyris said:
i just can't take you seriously... you actin a right stan.. The mere fact yamato was present stops your arguement... TKB is only possible due to kurama passive buff... he literally depletes his reserves and rides on kurama hence variety of number in clones in TKB by product of the excess amount of chakra used until he could actually control the Ninetails chakra which controls the TKB number since he wasn't actually using 1k clones each time and also the need for tenzo to pull up and monitor kyuubi influence... you really need to go back and do research. Also without kurama chakra that training wouldn't have happened..20years I believe was the suspected and usual range as kakashi put it but due to bijuu he could powerhouse the training via TKB

You're right.. I was admittedly being a teeny but biased just help fanboys feel better and cry less about mangafax...

I agree that due to FPS Naruto's 4x more than kakashi extra wouldn't exist. These people will never accept manga fact though in this regard

Kakashi stated that during the Rasenshuriken Training that Naruto's base chakra is 4x higher than his without Kurama. Anyone who's watched the Rasenshuriken Training knows this and he also said this during the tree climbing exercise and I already showed scans.

You and Salamander both take scans out of context and make up your own head canon. Kurama does buff him in his base form when it doesn't and all the scans that say this are fan translated websites.

No Yamato was sealing Kurama during the Rasenshuriken Training and Naruto still did 1,000. Just watch the entire training for yourself. Kurama was completely sealed after Naruto went 4 Tails against Orochimaru.

The one who needs to do research is you because VIZ isn't as accurate as you think it is either and have been criticised for it as well.

Salamander claims to show a VIZ Translation from the manga when he actually didn't. He showed a fan translated scans. You two are both Sasuke fanboys who ignore what most readers already know and just to prove a point and have no credibility.

Salamander claimed Naruto died from the extraction and that Sakura kept him alive throughout the entire time up until Obito. No she didn't and all anyone has to do is read chapters 664-66 in any Translation and they'll see for themselves.

The actual translation shows that Minato set the seal to be surpressed and meshed with his chakra.

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If the leaked out the way you 2 said it did then this is exactly what would've happened and also Kurama 's chakra is red. In the manga Naruto's is yellow as well

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Even if the Kyubii did leak like you guys said it did that wouldn't mean Kurama was the reason why he does the SCJ. That would only shown to heal him and restore his stamina as Kakashi stated in chapter 11 and after his battle against Kiba, so by your s and Salamander's logic the mixing would only restore his chakra and heal him. That's it, but it isn't and even if Fukkasaku, Naruto, etc stated that the Kyubii mixed with his body. Kurama himself would contradict them.

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salamander uchiha · Apr 28, 2019

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Everything I showed was a Viz scan? If it wasn't you would've shown the Viz scan. So show the Viz scan showing different wording or stop trolling.

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I'll repost this again @Tyris As he clearly can't read
You're done again :lmao:

Ignoring your misinterpreting of Kakashi's words, due to head canon, and you calling this Viz canon translation as a fan translation? :lmao:

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Claiming Gaara was dead when we don't know how long after the extraction and without somebody keeping him alive how long he was alive?

Claiming Kakashi would've made the reference, when he's telling you the root of Naruto's stamina(constituent parts of chakra) is the 9 tails. Further reinforcing what I said.

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Jiraiya confirming the seal allows for the 9 tails chakra to mix and mesh with Naruto's. And that they actually mix and the 4th did that. The 4th did it when he was just born by the way.

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The toads confirm the 4th designed the seal so the chakra would mix with Naruto's and become one with his(a part of Naruto's chakra).

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Naruto confirming he has plenty of chakra of his own because of the Kurama chakra he's been getting his whole life?

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Kushina after childbirth and extraction is conscious, able to bind and seal the 9 tails again.

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Naruto after having 50% 9 tails extracted. No heartbeat or pulse = you're dead. Sakura pumps his heart and keeps him alive.

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Sakura was pumping Naruto's heart the whole time even when Obito was transferring the 9tails, gyuki and shukaku's chakra. Yeah, Naruto was dead and Sakura kept blood flowing the whole time.

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So far, we've established Naruto has large chakra reserves because of Kurama, and Naruto is nothing like a full blooded Uzumaki.

I think the case has been made :byez:

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I'll repost this again @Tyris As he clearly can't read
You're done again :lmao:

Ignoring your misinterpreting of Kakashi's words, due to head canon, and you calling this Viz canon translation as a fan translation? :lmao:

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Claiming Gaara was dead when we don't know how long after the extraction and without somebody keeping him alive how long he was alive?

Claiming Kakashi would've made the reference, when he's telling you the root of Naruto's stamina(constituent parts of chakra) is the 9 tails. Further reinforcing what I said.

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Jiraiya confirming the seal allows for the 9 tails chakra to mix and mesh with Naruto's. And that they actually mix and the 4th did that. The 4th did it when he was just born by the way.

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The toads confirm the 4th designed the seal so the chakra would mix with Naruto's and become one with his(a part of Naruto's chakra).

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Naruto confirming he has plenty of chakra of his own because of the Kurama chakra he's been getting his whole life?

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Kushina after childbirth and extraction is conscious, able to bind and seal the 9 tails again.

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Naruto after having 50% 9 tails extracted. No heartbeat or pulse = you're dead. Sakura pumps his heart and keeps him alive.

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Sakura was pumping Naruto's heart the whole time even when Obito was transferring the 9tails, gyuki and shukaku's chakra. Yeah, Naruto was dead and Sakura kept blood flowing the whole time.

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So far, we've established Naruto has large chakra reserves because of Kurama, and Naruto is nothing like a full blooded Uzumaki.

I think the case has been made :byez:

Tyris · Apr 28, 2019

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Kakashi stated that during the Rasenshuriken Training that Naruto's base chakra is 4x higher than his without Kurama. Anyone who's watched the Rasenshuriken Training knows this and he also said this during the tree climbing exercise and I already showed scans.

You and Salamander both take scans out of context and make up your own head canon. Kurama does buff him in his base form when it doesn't and all the scans that say this are fan translated websites.

No Yamato was sealing Kurama during the Rasenshuriken Training and Naruto still did 1,000. Just watch the entire training for yourself. Kurama was completely sealed after Naruto went 4 Tails against Orochimaru.

The one who needs to do research is you because VIZ isn't as accurate as you think it is either and have been criticised for it as well.

Salamander claims to show a VIZ Translation from the manga when he actually didn't. He showed a fan translated scans. You two are both Sasuke fanboys who ignore what most readers already know and just to prove a point and have no credibility.

Salamander claimed Naruto died from the extraction and that Sakura kept him alive throughout the entire time up until Obito. No she didn't and all anyone has to do is read chapters 664-66 in any Translation and they'll see for themselves.

The actual translation shows that Minato set the seal to be surpressed and meshed with his chakra.

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If the leaked out the way you 2 said it did then this is exactly what would've happened and also Kurama 's chakra is red. In the manga Naruto's is yellow as well

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Even if the Kyubii did leak like you guys said it did that wouldn't mean Kurama was the reason why he does the SCJ. That would only shown to heal him and restore his stamina as Kakashi stated in chapter 11 and after his battle against Kiba, so by your s and Salamander's logic the mixing would only restore his chakra and heal him. That's it, but it isn't and even if Fukkasaku, Naruto, etc stated that the Kyubii mixed with his body. Kurama himself would contradict them.

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P.S Now I'm putting you under the ignore button.

What you continue to fail to realize is that there's no such thing as Naruto only chakra past the first what? First 30mins-to an hour of his life lol

Do your research on 4ES
(4 element seal I've meant the whole time) and you have no foundation to build your tired and repetitive argument on...

"Base" Naruto has haxx passive buff which granted access to jutsu and training methods he'd otherwise never be able to use like his signature jutsu without kurama long before Pein Arc's SM. So adult naruto again is no bitch but he's capped at anyone under Tendo.
It's minato foresight stopping your argument not my fault I just read the manga and Salamander is his own person idiot so miss me with that generalization cop out smh lol

ShogunSpiderman89 · Apr 28, 2019

Tyris said:
What you continue to fail to realize is that there's no such thing as Naruto only chakra past the first what? First 30mins-to an hour of his life lol

Do your research on 4ES
(4 element seal I've meant the whole time) and you have no foundation to build your tired and repetitive argument on...

"Base" Naruto has haxx passive buff which granted access to jutsu and training methods he'd otherwise never be able to use like his signature jutsu without kurama long before Pein Arc's SM. So adult naruto again is no bitch but he's capped at anyone under Tendo.
It's minato foresight stopping your argument not my fault I just read the manga and Salamander is his own person idiot so miss me with that generalization cop out smh lol

Wow! You're totally wrong and I did research it. I watched the show for years and the Kyubii doesn't continually mix and it was established that all the jutsu was his base chakra. Kakashi states this and no he doesn't state the Kyubii mixing with body, which it doesn't even do. The only time ever helped him with chakra for a jutsu was in chapter 95. Even the databooks say that Kurama isn't the reason why he does the jutsu. Kurama tried to prevent Naruto from using Sage Mode as well and hindered his chakra control. It's you and Salamander who refuse to acknowledge this as shown on multiple occasion

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What you continue to fail to realize is that there's no such thing as Naruto only chakra past the first what? First 30mins-to an hour of his life lol

Do your research on 4ES
(4 element seal I've meant the whole time) and you have no foundation to build your tired and repetitive argument on...

"Base" Naruto has haxx passive buff which granted access to jutsu and training methods he'd otherwise never be able to use like his signature jutsu without kurama long before Pein Arc's SM. So adult naruto again is no bitch but he's capped at anyone under Tendo.
It's minato foresight stopping your argument not my fault I just read the manga and Salamander is his own person idiot so miss me with that generalization cop out smh lol

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Everything I showed was a Viz scan? If it wasn't you would've shown the Viz scan. So show the Viz scan showing different wording or stop trolling.

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I'll repost this again @Tyris As he clearly can't read
You're done again

Ignoring your misinterpreting of Kakashi's words, due to head canon, and you calling this Viz canon translation as a fan translation?

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Claiming Gaara was dead when we don't know how long after the extraction and without somebody keeping him alive how long he was alive?

Claiming Kakashi would've made the reference, when he's telling you the root of Naruto's stamina(constituent parts of chakra) is the 9 tails. Further reinforcing what I said.

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Jiraiya confirming the seal allows for the 9 tails chakra to mix and mesh with Naruto's. And that they actually mix and the 4th did that. The 4th did it when he was just born by the way.

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The toads confirm the 4th designed the seal so the chakra would mix with Naruto's and become one with his(a part of Naruto's chakra).

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Naruto confirming he has plenty of chakra of his own because of the Kurama chakra he's been getting his whole life?

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Kushina after childbirth and extraction is conscious, able to bind and seal the 9 tails again.

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Naruto after having 50% 9 tails extracted. No heartbeat or pulse = you're dead. Sakura pumps his heart and keeps him alive.

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Sakura was pumping Naruto's heart the whole time even when Obito was transferring the 9tails, gyuki and shukaku's chakra. Yeah, Naruto was dead and Sakura kept blood flowing the whole time.

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So far, we've established Naruto has large chakra reserves because of Kurama, and Naruto is nothing like a full blooded Uzumaki.

I think the case has been made

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I'll repost this again @Tyris As he clearly can't read
You're done again

Ignoring your misinterpreting of Kakashi's words, due to head canon, and you calling this Viz canon translation as a fan translation?

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Claiming Gaara was dead when we don't know how long after the extraction and without somebody keeping him alive how long he was alive?

Claiming Kakashi would've made the reference, when he's telling you the root of Naruto's stamina(constituent parts of chakra) is the 9 tails. Further reinforcing what I said.

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He also said that Kurma hindered his chakra control in that same pg and chakra control and stamina aren't the same thing and once again you take manga scand and no you're not sending VIZ translations, which isn't 100% accurate and you left out this scan as well

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Jiraiya confirming the seal allows for the 9 tails chakra to mix and mesh with Naruto's. And that they actually mix and the 4th did that. The 4th did it when he was just born by the way, so if anything Kurama gave him a harder time doing jutsu if anyyhing

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Wrong! He said that if it was to leaked out it would be supressed and meshed with his chakra and the mixing in an unstable was because Orochimaru messed with the sealing

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The toads confirm the 4th designed the seal so the chakra would mix with Naruto's and become one with his(a part of Naruto's chakra).

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That's a fan translated and the scan you showed earlier stated that
had plenty of his own chakra along Kurama, which indictates that he has a lot by himself and I already showed you where VIZ isn't always accurate

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Naruto confirming he has plenty of chakra of his own because of the Kurama chakra he's been getting his whole life?

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He said that he had plenty on his own as well as Kurama and no that isn't a VIZ translation because when it comes to VIZ you have to buy their manga as well and I can tell you screenshoted that from an online website and in response to Fukkasaku's statement you left out this part as well.

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Kushina after childbirth and extraction is conscious, able to bind and seal the 9 tails again.

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Naruto after having 50% 9 tails extracted. No heartbeat or pulse = you're dead. Sakura pumps his heart and keeps him alive.

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Sakura was pumping Naruto's heart the whole time even when Obito was transferring the 9tails, gyuki and shukaku's chakra. Yeah, Naruto was dead and Sakura kept blood flowing the whole time.
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I already showed you where she only did it up to when she met Minato and here are the scans again and once again anyone can read from chapters 664-66 that she only did it up to when she met Minato

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The WZ stated that he was alive after the extraction

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So far, we've established Naruto has large chakra reserves because of Kurama, and Naruto is nothing like a full blooded Uzumaki.

I think the case has been made

I never said that it was Kushina's Uzumaki. I just said that he had it.

Examples Supergirl isn't as strong as Superman, but she has the same powers as he does. She-Hulk isn't as strong as the regular Hulk, but still has tje same powers he does.

Kakashi stated that he has he has a high amount of chakra and he was referring to his base chakra as well and no he wasn't refering to the Kyubii leaking because as I said Yamato was sealing and no it wasn't the red chakra leaking out because Yamato was using the sealing throughout the entire training.

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Anyone who's watched tue entire training knows this.

Anyway, Kurama also confirms that he has her Uzumaki DNA, which I already showed you, but yeah I agree with you when you say that it's not as strong as hers, so he does have a high enough chakra to contaon Kurama as well

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Even if the Kyubii did mix like you say it did. It would only be heal him, help him with his stamina and restoring it.

If Kurama was the only reason why Naruto did justu Kakashi would've straight up said it like he did with the healing ability after his fight against Kiba.

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Edit The WZ stated that he was alive after the extraction

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Kurama isn't Naruto's chakra reserves either as you can see here.

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Even the databooks both say that you're wrong as well

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ShogunSpiderman89 · Apr 28, 2019

Tyris said:
What you continue to fail to realize is that there's no such thing as Naruto only chakra past the first what? First 30mins-to an hour of his life lol

Do your research on 4ES
(4 element seal I've meant the whole time) and you have no foundation to build your tired and repetitive argument on...

"Base" Naruto has haxx passive buff which granted access to jutsu and training methods he'd otherwise never be able to use like his signature jutsu without kurama long before Pein Arc's SM. So adult naruto again is no bitch but he's capped at anyone under Tendo.
It's minato foresight stopping your argument not my fault I just read the manga and Salamander is his own person idiot so miss me with that generalization cop out smh lol

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Here's Naruto doing Sage Mode without Kurama getting invovled ar all

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salamander uchiha · Apr 28, 2019

ShogunSpiderman89 said:
That's a fan translated and the scan you showed earlier stated that
had plenty of his own chakra along Kurama, which indictates that he has a lot by himself and I already showed you where VIZ isn't always accurate

You showed nothing factually accurate, only head canon interpretations. Then you called a Viz scan I showed a fan translation, but didn't provide the Viz scan. Then you went onto claim Viz makes mistakes, but didn't show it to be a mistake. The only reason you even called it a mistake was because it wrecked your head canon.

To provide further context for you let's break down the order of events.

Naruto was told the 9 tails would take his chakra. To which Naruto responds I've got plenty of chakra of my own(the response), I've been getting the 9 tails chakra my whole life(the reason for his plenty of chakra). In plain English Naruto's telling you he has plenty of his own chakra because of the 9 tails chakra he's been getting his whole life.

If Naruto had plenty of chakra on his own chakra, he wouldn't mention the 9 tails. And also if it was separate from the 9 tails there would be an and dividing the two. There isn't an and, therefore the purpose is to expand on statement one or the reason for it.

Shanks · Apr 28, 2019

Adult naruto would be on same level as Jiraiya .

Also VOTE Naruto was strongest at his peak.

salamander uchiha · Apr 28, 2019

ShogunSpiderman89 said:
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I'll repeat this since you're ignoring it for head canon. It answers all of your head canon.
You're done again :lmao:

Ignoring your misinterpreting of Kakashi's words, due to head canon, and you calling this Viz canon translation as a fan translation? :lmao:

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Claiming Gaara was dead when we don't know how long after the extraction and without somebody keeping him alive how long he was alive?

Claiming Kakashi would've made the reference, when he's telling you the root of Naruto's stamina(constituent parts of chakra) is the 9 tails. Further reinforcing what I said.

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Jiraiya confirming the seal allows for the 9 tails chakra to mix and mesh with Naruto's. And that they actually mix and the 4th did that. The 4th did it when he was just born by the way.

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The toads confirm the 4th designed the seal so the chakra would mix with Naruto's and become one with his(a part of Naruto's chakra).

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Naruto confirming he has plenty of chakra of his own because of the Kurama chakra he's been getting his whole life?

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Kushina after childbirth and extraction is conscious, able to bind and seal the 9 tails again.

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Naruto after having 50% 9 tails extracted. No heartbeat or pulse = you're dead. Sakura pumps his heart and keeps him alive.

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Sakura was pumping Naruto's heart the whole time even when Obito was transferring the 9tails, gyuki and shukaku's chakra. Yeah, Naruto was dead and Sakura kept blood flowing the whole time.

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So far, we've established Naruto has large chakra reserves because of Kurama, and Naruto is nothing like a full blooded Uzumaki.

I think the case has been made :byez:

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I'll repost this again @Tyris As he clearly can't read
You're done again :lmao:

Ignoring your misinterpreting of Kakashi's words, due to head canon, and you calling this Viz canon translation as a fan translation? :lmao:

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Claiming Gaara was dead when we don't know how long after the extraction and without somebody keeping him alive how long he was alive?

Claiming Kakashi would've made the reference, when he's telling you the root of Naruto's stamina(constituent parts of chakra) is the 9 tails. Further reinforcing what I said.

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Jiraiya confirming the seal allows for the 9 tails chakra to mix and mesh with Naruto's. And that they actually mix and the 4th did that. The 4th did it when he was just born by the way.

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The toads confirm the 4th designed the seal so the chakra would mix with Naruto's and become one with his(a part of Naruto's chakra).

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Naruto confirming he has plenty of chakra of his own because of the Kurama chakra he's been getting his whole life?

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Kushina after childbirth and extraction is conscious, able to bind and seal the 9 tails again.

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Naruto after having 50% 9 tails extracted. No heartbeat or pulse = you're dead. Sakura pumps his heart and keeps him alive.

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Sakura was pumping Naruto's heart the whole time even when Obito was transferring the 9tails, gyuki and shukaku's chakra. Yeah, Naruto was dead and Sakura kept blood flowing the whole time.

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So far, we've established Naruto has large chakra reserves because of Kurama, and Naruto is nothing like a full blooded Uzumaki.

I think the case has been made :byez:

How strong is Adult Naruto without Kurama?

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