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They messed up with the Edo's anyway the soul or chakra is effected. Edo's experiencing pain ehen they're a pile of Ash.

Yes it was stated by Kakashi himself, Naruto made a shadow clone to add the wind Nature to the Rasengan. Kakashi said(paraphrased) neither he nor the 4th could do that because they dont have ample chakra like Naruto(4 times Kakashi's). In other words neither he nor Minato could form a shadow clone with sufficient chakra to add a nature. If we take Naruto dividing his chakra by 3 (one to form the Rasengan, one to shape it and one to add the nature). Minato as an upper limit would have less chakra than 1/3 of Naruto because Naruto could use this method to use Rasen shuriken multiple times. I don't want to get too technical with this.

As for the final point no, since Sakura wasn't pumping him with chakra she was giving him CPR. BZ being weak or not doesn't matter since he is immortal and his chakra quanity is also unknown. Hogaromo didn't lie he had no reason to lie. He only had the power to ass pull and hand out ass pulls. Anyway Naruto didn't save his life Obito was still dying he was temporarily stabilized. The reintroduction of chakra won't save a person and a fraction of Gyuki's wouldn't make any difference either. Kurama gave the plan to Gaara to transfer the other half to save him so Gyuki played no part in his revival. It was clearly bad writing by Kishimoto who shat on his own established rules.
Indeed and a “screw logic” moment nonetheless.

Although I get what you’re saying, I’m not totally convinced. What chapter was that? I need read over it again.

Look we can argue semantics all day but Kurama himself told Gaara that Naruto could be saved by transplanting his other half into Naruto. Hagoromo also had the power to give Naruto and Sasuke OP abilities capable of combatting Kaguya, let alone Madara. He was definitely capable of healing/reviving both Naruto and Sasuke but first he had to give them the backstory of history and hear their answers. That much is stated already, especially since Hago has said that he needed the Hokages’ help only because he‘d given away all of his chakra. Plus BZ isn‘t immortal, he admitted that he could be killed which is why he was clinging to Obito in the first place, he doesn’t have a lifespan though. You are right about the CPR but she was still providing I’m with chakra directly to his heart though. You could light emitting from his wounds as she reached the heart.
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Nikkka u wanna be a victim of kishimoto's genjutsu then be it so...but dont say minamoto didn't try to save me...now have fun being kishimoto's victim of kishimoto's Bobito illuzion..
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Orochimaru knew that Sasuke would've attacked him eventually but yet, he didn't do anything about it. :|
If I remember correctly, I believe that Orochimaru had Kabuto cook up a poison that would make it easy for Orochimaru to take over Sasuke. I think that Sasuke just preemptively struck Oro but both Oro and Kabuto knew he wouldn’t go quietly.

Nice contribution nonetheless.

- Who the hell are Rock Lee's parents? And why does he look like Guy?

- The story is going well how about we put some fillers in between. This won't kill the hype.

- Let's use some birds to deliver the messages while we have technology because why not.

- Kaguya was a sensor-type and she had the byakugan, but Sakura somehow managed to surprise her.

- Some crazy party must have happened 11~12 years back because all the kids are the same age. Maybe they were celebrating the end of the great war. Lmao.
Lol at that last one, crazy party indeed. Nice contributions but was it stated Kaguya was a sensor?
 
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Indeed and a “screw logic” moment nonetheless.

Although I get what you’re saying, I’m not totally convinced. What chapter was that? I need read over it again.

Look we can argue semantics all day but Kurama himself told Gaara that Naruto could be saved by transplanting his other half into Naruto. Hagoromo also had the power to give Naruto and Sasuke OP abilities capable of combatting Kaguya, let alone Madara. He was definitely capable of healing/reviving both Naruto and Sasuke but first he had to give them the backstory of history and hear their answers. That much is stated already, especially since Hago has said that he needed the Hokages’ help only because he‘d given away all of his chakra. Plus BZ isn‘t immortal, he admitted that he could be killed which is why he was clinging to Obito in the first place, he doesn’t have a lifespan though. You are right about the CPR but she was still providing I’m with chakra directly to his heart though. You could light emitting from his wounds as she reached the heart.
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There aren't any semantics the rule was established Bro. To emphasise the point White Zetsu mentioned it again. Kushina even mentioned resealing the 9 tails in herself wouldn't save her, but screw logic plot armour saved Naruto. It was also repeated and Hogaromo confirmed he can't do anything for them(meaning save their lives). I don't remember Sakura giving him chakra even if she did he was pretty much confirmed dead.

I can't be bothered arguing it wither way.
 
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It's chapter 330
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There aren't any semantics the rule was established Bro. To emphasise the point White Zetsu mentioned it again. Kushina even mentioned resealing the 9 tails in herself wouldn't save her, but screw logic plot armour saved Naruto. It was also repeated and Hogaromo confirmed he can't do anything for them(meaning save their lives). I don't remember Sakura giving him chakra even if she did he was pretty much confirmed dead.

I can't be bothered arguing it wither way.
Thanks, I concede to that argument.

There are semantics when the bijuu weren‘t cooperative with their hosts during Kushina‘s time, and also this was the first time half of a cooperative bijuu was being reintroduced into a host that had formed a bond beyond anything that’s ever been seen since Hagoromo. Hagoromo lied as I’d explained in my previous post And Sakura was supplying chakra directly to Naruto’s heart as they began to speed away. Chapter 663.

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We can agree to disagree on this matter however.
 
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how About for screw logic how no ones ever mentioned that simply making your shadow clone do shadow clones would negate some of the effects. For ex.

The whole issue is chakra consumption. If naruto makes 3 clones his chakra is sliced in 4, but if he makes one clone, he keeps half his chakra, and his clone can just split it’s chakra into however many clones. Granted, this makes weaker clones the more they make, but clone strength isn’t really a big deal when you want numbers anyways .

This way, regardless of who you are, the danger of chakra usage falls on the original clone. Theoretically anybody who can do shadow clones can do this, as it’s stupidly never really specified how taxing it is, just that it takes half, so presumably, it takes half of whatever the hell you have atm, making the whole “danger” aspect kind of... null
 

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After blind Madara used that katon ash jutsu that blown away Naruto and Sasuke(the latter was actually standing still), he then went for Bijuu's, what happened to Naruto and Sasuke ? What took them so long to get back to Madara?

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You can see at the bottom that Madara is running past shinobi's, to the bijuu's. Did he cover such a long distance on foot so quickly or what ?

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But Sasuke's case is even more weird. Madara gets his Rinnegan back, uses limbo, uses gedo chains, beats all Bijuu's including Naruto, fights and beats Tobirama, and Sasuke is STILL nowhere to be seen ??? Guess what, when we finally see a scan of him, he actually had to use his hawk to catch up with Madara ? wtf?

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Was Naruto simply blown away in the same direction where bijuu's were, so that he had shorter way to Madara or what ?
 

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Why didn't Sasuke use Susanoo to defend himself when Madara stabbed him and nearly killed him? He basically got low diff'ed there, what the hell. He could've used Susanoo to at least try to stop Madara, but nah, he just freaked out after Madara's Limbo caught him and just stood still, watching Madara stabbing him with his own sword. That's pretty messed up. Tbh, I was thinking about another screw logic moment recently, but I forgot what it was. If I remember, I'm gonna edit it into the post.
 

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1_Naruto not using tsb shield to protect himself from IT

2-Madara Edo'd young with eyes

3-Obito not kidnapping young naruto but he could spy on kakashi

4 Naruto not using boil release to free himself from kaguya's Ice the first time
 
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One that had me laughing out loud was when the homie Obito kamui'd all the way from heaven to give Kakashi a pair of ghost eyes. The whole series was a shitshow after the pein arc, to be frank. But an entertaining one at that.​
 
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Nagato was Hagoromo's reincarnation; controlling him mentally is an impossibility.
Kamui can't warp Rikudo enhanced Susanoo just like Kakashi can't ghostify his Susano'o.

Madara doesn't have the Preta Path - he doesn't know the name of Nagato's absorption. He doesn't have any of the paths.


Tailed Beasts were a narrative device for the authorian intent or they probably encountered an Edo in thier lifetime. The key factor emphasized in that juncture when they said that, was "blood" and we are aware of the fact that lifeforce is contained in the blood; a hint to this fact being Uzumakis possessing high amounts of lifeforce and coincidently having thier hair dyed red symbolizing former. Lifeforce being a predominant factor of a person's overall power; the ANBUs' commenting how they (Edo Hashi and Tobi) were slowly regaining thier lifeforce -meaning- they were consequently gaining in strength, which goes in line with the fact that Orochimaru perfected the Edo Tensei.

Sasuke trapped them (WZs') in Genjutsu, with Itachi's eyes, the man hyped by the alliance HQ authorities regarding his supernatural Genjustu-control abilities on par with WZ's masquerading-sensor bypassing capabilities, and was thier only known theoretical explanation prior to the revelation of latter's play in the fact.

WZ not attacking Sasuke goes in line with the statement he made prior to engaging former. That "Itachi's power permeated all throughout his physique" upon transplanting latter's eyes. Probably warded off the Zetsu from overtaking former.

Limbo never used Ninjutsu to begin with. Learn what a nerf means. Something that happens which contradict's a fighter's pre established feats of power or capabilities; illogically. That's a nerf.

Kamui doesn't work on Juubi Jinchuurikis. Just like Kakashi couldn't warp Kaguya instead had to physically pierce through her directly.

Hashirama possess an inbuilt resistance to Genjutsu, + he possesses one of the powerful Genjutsu in the verse, that a master of illusions couldn't break (Hiruzen, who mastered 1000s of illusions, by Ebisu's words.).

RSM is basically a Jesus-Mode that asspulls it's way through anything; Naruto mastered flight without him even being aware of the fact. + instant comprehension of all things means he unconciously decipher's the loop-holes of said Genjutsu and break's out of it; unconciously, without being aware of the fact of course. The mode transcends the realm of logic and reason; he recreated Kakashi's eye without even being aware of the technicalities behind said recreation. IT is probably the only Genjutsu that could even remotely affect him as per canonical implication.

The Divine Tree required the individual life energy of it's victims, Edos don't have a physique; therefore no LE. Only the soul and ash as replacement for a physique.

Kyuubi Chakra Modes are unexplored poorly explained territory. Like asking how the Sages Tools came into being or the Nunoboko came into being. The design manifesting on cloak resembles the Uzumaki Clan Symbol and Sarada's MS; former of which being unexplored territory in of itself.

Gedo arm being decapitated means there's no existing link between the main body; given the thing by itself isn't a Bijū but just the shell and the concentration of the bijū chakra is located in the eye area; seeing as an eye appears when a bijuu is sealed and Kakashi thought ripping off it's skull meant it's dead, given the chakra that gave the thing some sort of conciousness, seperates from the main body, altering it into a lifeless doll in the process.

The Seals would seal her instantly hence why she backed off. A single touch is all
that's necessary to initiate said sealing.

Hagoromo giving powers doesn't necessarily mean he was at full power, just like Orochimaru isn't at full power even though he could distribute the Curse Marks throughout his subordinates, using said power Sasuke managed to even beat him - the originator of the power. In a similar fashion to how Jugo the progenitor of said Cursed Seal was former's subordinate.

Asura and Indra possess halves of Hagoromo's power hence they don't possess conciousness given latter is a higher-up Otsutsuki ability - a trait only replicated by Momoshiki, who is an elite and peer to latter. Former are diluted in Otsutsuki blood.

Obito was a sensor as a Jubi-Jinchuurikir; he probably retained the ability, or it could've been authorial intent.

Madara's Jubi Powers are a piss ant compared to RSM Conjuctioned with considerable Bijū Power because it's a supernatural mode that's used in conjunction with Bijuu powered attacks; whereas former is simply Jubi Senjutsu powered.

Sasuke sensed Naruto gathering a huge accumulation of Natural Energy; and the keyword here is "huge" -meaning- he had to retaliate with something even to balance out the impact or else he would've been overwhelmed by the resulting explosion going his way.

He thought BZ was his will; if latter had straight-up told him the underlying methods to achieve the Rinnegan, he'd simply be digging his own grave as he no longer can fool him into thinking he is indeed his will. He needed to manipulate the guy into achieving the IT Plan.

Madara's arsenal wasn't limited, it's simply the consequence of achieving a new power. Like Obito couldn't utilize Kamui because of the Jyubi inside him. Specific power accumulations give rise to specific power limitations, consequently - and it's not plot or any bullshit like that - but simply an in-verse consequence of wielding the technique or ability.

Edo Hashirama was not at full power as Madara explained; neither were Tobirama.

He (Hashirama) already has chakra greater than 2 Perfect Jinchuurikis (Minato, and Naruto.) and Kurama was stated to possess limitless amounts of chakra back in Pt.1. What'd gaining another set of unlimited chakra accomplish? Worthless to someone like him seeing as he sold the Bijū to the neighbouring lands to maintain peace.

Again, learn what a nerf means. Fukasaku flat out states Naruto surpassed every other Sage before him. A sillhoutte of Minato appears. So he can't have the same level of mastery as Pein Arc Naruto even.

RSM + Boil Release = Kaguya's .

Hagoromo couldn't personally visit him due to the Bijū Chakra not being accumulated into one place, in conjunction with Indra and Asura's Chakra, as per his own words.

Certain techniques in the Narutoverse elude chakra-absorption, e.g., Itachi's Amaterasu, Raikiri, Chidori, Six Paths techniques (Onyx Chidori, Sand Sealing Rasengan); RSM Rasenshurikens seems to be a part of that group.

Sasuke had Amaterasu; something BZ was scared of. Enton is also a threat to her Ice dimension. He's physically quicker, in addition.

Kaguya isn't capable of using it (Izanagi) because Hagoromo invented it.

OT: All of these wtf moments can be explained one way or the other, using in verse implications; and if it can't be, it's simply unexplored territory that'd be explained when it becomes relevant to plot.
i couldn't read past this... what in the name of chakra are you talking about?
i need a scan of nagato being the reincarnation(not hyperbole) akin to naruto/sasuke being literal reincarnates... and technically its sasuke(rinne)

i need a scan of madara not being able to use preta... he used preta without eyes revived, used preta with edo rinne and used preta as juubi jin...
 
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i couldn't read past this... what in the name of chakra are you talking about?
i need a scan of nagato being the reincarnation(not hyperbole) akin to naruto/sasuke being literal reincarnates... and technically its sasuke(rinne)

i need a scan of madara not being able to use preta... he used preta without eyes revived, used preta with edo rinne and used preta as juubi jin...
He never used Preta Path. He utilized a generic absorption. Something that all Rinnegan users are in possession of.

Jiraiya believed he was Hagoromo's reincarnation. Sasuke is but a division of Hagoromo
 

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He never used Preta Path. He utilized a generic absorption. Something that all Rinnegan users are in possession of.

Jiraiya believed he was Hagoromo's reincarnation. Sasuke is but a division of Hagoromo
That's preta.

He's not if anything it's Madara who are the original wielder & Sasuke who is also an actual reincarnation also
 
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That's preta.

He's not if anything it's Madara who are the original wielder & Sasuke who is also an actual reincarnation also
Preta manifests like an omnidirectional force-field barrier, whenever the jutsu is activated.

Indra is a part of Hagoromo. Hence they aren't his reincarnations, naturally.
 

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Preta manifests like an omnidirectional force-field barrier, whenever the jutsu is activated.

Indra is a part of Hagoromo. Hence they aren't his reincarnations, naturally.
post a scan of there being a supposed "generic absorbing" feat other than the only known Rinnegan chakra absorbing tech which is and only can be Preta path granted to those wielding rinnegan.

Also Preta has been shown to absorb chakra at singular points of focus without the omni-directional field displayed by nagato's Preta path(puppet) such as through Madara's foot or Sasuke's fist and Susano'o vessal.

the Sage reborn was not Nagato just because jiraiya thought so not knowing those eyes belonged to madara and were transplanted
 
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