Sakura's mind > Sharingan

[InfiniteMugen]

Having the Byakugo seal is not the same as knowing Byakugo: The Strength Of One Technique, that Technique was still being developed during the time skip. Tsunade couldn’t regenerate or her wounds with no hand seals in part 1 while prime Sakura could.

You do realize we pretty much skipped most of what would normally be “prime”

Anyways, tsunade created it all, why wouldn’t she have known it in pt1? Just cause she didn’t use it? Or is there actual statements made

 

[FemmeFatale]

You do realize we pretty much skipped most of what would normally be “prime”

Anyways, tsunade created it all, why wouldn’t she have known it in pt1? Just cause she didn’t use it? Or is there actual statements made

She didn’t appply it to her seal. Tsunade just release the chakra in her body and controlled it to go to her wounded area. Sakura however, could do so in base without the byakugou.
Sakura could used creation rebirth without byakugou

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Yeah no : the reason why Sakura was able to understand and read Sasori puppet movements is because of Chiyo.

I am refering to fact that Chiyo saved Sakura's life couple times before Sakura finally learned Sasori attack pattern.

Did Sakura read his pattern first time ?

Answer is no she got saved by Chiyo.

If many other characters had privilege to be saved against Sasori couple times they too would eventually become able to read Sasori attack pattern.

So no there is nothing special about Sakura mind here let alone being better than Sharingan.

Gave characters like Kakashi , Minato, Itachi,Shikamaru,Sasuke, Tobirama, Temari privilege to be saved by Chiyo and they will do same as Sakura.in analyzing Sasori attacks.

Sasori literally called her a hawk because her eyes were so sharp. And ewww I only like Sakura and Sarada .

Sakura was the perfect puppet because she was super strong and agile, those other ninja u listed would fail. Chidori would’ve gotten Sasuke-kun ass flattened.

 

[Melanin]

You do realize we pretty much skipped most of what would normally be “prime”

Prime Sakura = Sakura at her Strongest/best.

Anyways, tsunade created it all, why wouldn’t she have known it in pt1?

You tell me.. anyway like a said she was developing the technique up until she used it in the war against Madara. Again, she didn’t have it nor used in part 1 and it really isn’t up for debate honestly or at least shouldn’t be.

Just cause she didn’t use it? Or is there actual statements made

Either doesn’t matter., Tsunade didn’t have the feat so you can’t logically ague that she had it.

 

[InfiniteMugen]

Prime Sakura = Sakura at her Strongest/best.



You tell me.. anyway like a said she was developing the technique up until she used it in the war against Madara. Again, she didn’t have it nor used in part 1 and it really isn’t up for debate honestly or at least shouldn’t be.



Either doesn’t matter., Tsunade didn’t have the feat so you can’t logically ague that she had it.

Interesting, Is there an actual statement saying this though? Like you say she was developing the technique up until the war arc.... so then sakura automatically learned the same technique while not watching? They learned together? That’s kinda like saying jiraiya didn’t have sm in pt 1 cause he didn’t use it.

If you claim it’s not up for debate then that means there’s actual stated proof, that’s all I wanna see, just cause I’m curious and I’d rather go off the manga than you lot

I think it’s weird to assume the sannin bar oro learned anything new at all during the time skip jutsu wise,that was never their purpose in the story at all

 

[Beast Busty Beauty]

Doubtful as it was deemed as a “last resort” kind of deal. Even if your correct that still puts it before shippuden. It wouldn’t make much sense for her to teach sakura when she herself is learning it, she created this shit before the series started, that’s why she can wander the land gambling and not giving af about her personal safety and well-being.

Byakugou no Jutsu is just a permanent version of Creation Rebirth. Why would Tsunade use the latter if she had the former according to you? As far as her pt.1 feats are considered she didn't have Byakugou no Jutsu to that time.

 

[InfiniteMugen]

Byakugou no Jutsu is just a permanent version of Creation Rebirth. Why would Tsunade use the latter if she had the former according to you? As far as her pt.1 feats are considered she didn't have Byakugou no Jutsu to that time.

I don’t think your getting what I’m saying, but whateves it isn’t that important

 

[MissingFUCKINGnin]

Didn’t academy Sakura already created her own mind world and another sentient being within her mind, which Itachi and obito had to gain MS to do a fraction of that and saying did it from a tantrum.

Post automatically merged: Nov 13, 2018

Part 1 Tsunade literally is the same as part 2, she just didn’t show her power. And technically speaking, Tsunade perfected her chakra control and you can surpass perfection unless your Sakura.

Post automatically merged: Nov 13, 2018

You’ve all been misinformed for so long

1st bold: Lulz, sakura's internal monolauges and her being to scared to say half that shit outloud just proves how much of a fodder she really is

2nd bold: This is actually correct.. you CAN surpass perfection, like how Itachi does all the time... the only exception is IF your SAKURA, because sakura is fodder and cannot surpass perfection, you are right this time femme

 

[Imp]

I see women in power make you feel uncomfortable.

Huh? And where did you get that non-sequitur from? I wouldn't have a problem if it were Konan (being that she's leagues above Sakura) and you made a proposition like this, then I would likely engage in a debate. But this character?​

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[Kakooli]

all major powers in naruto series stem from abilities that were originally sakura's...

Gentle fist? Sakura's chakra control
Sound 5? Basically a fusion of Sakura's abilities...Jirobo=Her strength...Tayuya=Her genjutsu potential...Kidomaru=Her intelligence...Sakon=Two minds... Ukon is basically what inner sakura was going to be developed into...Kimimaro= Dances named after flowers...Sakura=Flower

Sharingan? Sakura's precog+genjutsu ability...Susanoo? basically a rip off of teh great sakura move from ultimate ninja
Shinra tensei? Shinra tensei punch...

thx 4 reading

 

[Uverdore9]

I definitely think Kishi had something planned out in the start given there aren't any cases of anyone resisting the mind transfer technique and forcing the astral image out so I think that had to be legit ability but I think he forgot about it while creating Shippuden but I think there's a chance he'll bring it up in Boruto.

 

[Melanin]

Interesting, Is there an actual statement saying this though? Like you say she was developing the technique up until the war arc.... so then sakura automatically learned the same technique while not watching?

There doesn’t need to be a statment, there needs to be a feat. Just because you have the Byakugo seal does not mean you have the strength of a hundred technique. Part 1 Tsunade doesn’t have the feat there for not the technique becuase if she did she would’ve used it against kubuto, let alone Orochimaru.

Yes! Sakura could automatically learn the technique by not watching simply becuase the jutsu that comes with the Byakugo is strictly chakra control and conscious based, the strength of a hundred a manifestation of its parent jutsu creation rebirth which is simply opening the seal. Tsunade didn’t have to teach Sakura that because he chakra control already had the hype.

They learned together? That’s kinda like saying jiraiya didn’t have sm in pt 1 cause he didn’t use it.

It’s not the same, Jiraya had an incomplete version of SM or lacked the mastery of senjutsu chakra while Naruto had the completed version due to his complete mastery of senjutsu chakra. Sakura & Tsunade can’t relate, Sakura mastered everyone of Tsunades techniques before her prime but why wouldn’t sakura be able to learn the jutsu with Tsunade? Early part 1 sakura was already a master medical ninja expert.

If you claim it’s not up for debate then that means there’s actual stated proof, that’s all I wanna see, just cause I’m curious and I’d rather go off the manga than you lot

The manga is clear, you didn’t see Tsunade use the technique did? That means she factually did not have the feat of using it. So if anyone is going propose a factual argument of Part 1 Tsunade Vs Prime Sakura then no you cannot attribute a feat Part 1 Tsunade didn’t have period.

^^common sense.

 

[InfiniteMugen]

There doesn’t need to be a statment, there needs to be a feat. Just because you have the Byakugo seal does not mean you have the strength of a hundred technique. Part 1 Tsunade doesn’t have the feat there for not the technique becuase if she did she would’ve used it against kubuto, let alone Orochimaru.

Yes! Sakura could automatically learn the technique by not watching simply becuase the jutsu that comes with the Byakugo is strictly chakra control and conscious based, the strength of a hundred a manifestation of its parent jutsu creation rebirth which is simply opening the seal. Tsunade didn’t have to teach Sakura that because he chakra control already had the hype.

You sakura fans need to get off it, no one is doing a sakura vs tsunade thing. While I agree the concept of what she did against madara probably didn’t exist when pt 1 was released, a lot of other things didn’t exist either. Things where added onto pt 1’s timeline throughout pt 2 that we didn’t see. It’s not kishis job to spoon feed people common sense shit.

Saying sakura learned how to replicate an exact move tsunade “just learned” without any contact or info from tsunade is one of the dumbest things I’ve heard claimed.

First she solod kaguya all by herself

Now she created a jutsu all by herself that just so happened to be identical to tsunade. Nice

Doesn’t tsunade herself state it’s only used for certain instances?

 

[Melanin]

You sakura fans need to get off it, no one is doing a sakura vs tsunade thing. [/QOUTE]

Are you sure? You should know that the only reason Tsunade is relieve to this thead is becuase someone who isn’t a fan of Sakura felt the need to discredit her with a failed comparison too Tsunade. So when you say “Sakura fans need to get off” you should be directing that energy to the person who isn’t a Sakura fan for turning this thread into Tsunade vs Sakura initially.

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^^ those are the members who need to get off.

While I agree the concept of what she did against madara probably didn’t exist when pt 1 was released, a lot of other things didn’t exist either. Things where added onto pt 1’s timeline throughout pt 2 that we didn’t see. It’s not kishis job to spoon feed people common sense shit.

Lamo your the one who wants to be spoon fed, your the one asking for kishi to illustrate word for word that Tsunade didn’t have a technique that wasn’t shown used or thought of during by Tsunade herself in part 1 too accept that Tsunade didn’t know what she never used. Common sense huh?

Saying sakura learned how to replicate an exact move tsunade “just learned” without any contact or info from tsunade is one of the dumbest things I’ve heard claimed.

No what’s dumb is insisting that Tsunade had a technique that she never used or was even relevant to the manga before it was thought of or mentioned.

First she solod kaguya all by herself

I never said that, EVER.

Now she created a jutsu all by herself that just so happened to be identical to tsunade.

I never said or implied this either, Tsunade is the original proctor of the technique. It’s just so happens that Sakura was advanced enough to master the technique within the same time period Tsunade used to create it.

does this otsunade herself state it’s only used for certain instances?

You tell me, I need to get off remember?

 

[InfiniteMugen]

Lamo your the one who wants to be spoon fed, your the one asking for kishi to illustrate word for word that Tsunade didn’t have a technique that wasn’t shown used or thought of during by Tsunade herself in part 1 too accept that Tsunade didn’t know what she never used. Common sense huh?



No what’s dumb is insisting that Tsunade had a technique that she never used or was even relevant to the manga before it was thought of or mentioned.



I never said that, EVER.

How is this going over your head? Your logic is literally this.

Not seen in pt1, not in pt1. Essentially, we didn’t see it, so it didn’t happen


This is what your saying. At some point tsunade created the byakugo seal, then at some point in the time skip, she taught sakura.... just the seal... right? Let’s keep going

Then(according to you so far, correct me if I’m wrong) so then, at some point during ship, she learned the jutsu she used against madara... , granted, none of this is shown, which is the very argument your using against me(that we don’t see something).

Not only that, your telling me sakura learned the exact same jutsu, on her own(darn, we didn’t see it though, shucks) after just being able to use the seal in general.

Now I’m not gonna lie, the thought of her simply having it and not using it until the madara fight, the one time she would of died, because of how it works, makes a lot more sense then what you told me.

Again, I know it didn’t exist way back when pt1 was brand new, that’s not what I’m asking.

I’m asking now, that world is built and history is established and nothing could really be changed(excluding boruto) did she have it, like once kishi put it in the manga, did he intend it to be something she had all along

 

[Melanin]

How is this going over your head? Your logic is literally this.

Lmao so your gonna ignore my response to you saying “Sakura fans need to get off.. no one is doing a Tsunade vs Sakura thing” right? I clearly laid out that the “ones” you said weren’t doing a “Tsunade vs Sakura thing” clearly was... take this L sir and remember reading is fundamental.

Not seen in pt1, not in pt1. Essentially, we didn’t see it, so it didn’t happen

Your thinking way to hard fam.. it’s this simple, you can’t say part 1 Tsunade can use Byakugo: Strength Of A Hundred Technique against anyone based on any fact becuase the technique was not dawned, mentioned, hinted at, not used by Tsunade in part 1 factually. It doesn’t matter if you think she could’ve done it or if you think that she had ability to do so, you can’t say she knew it or had it but I’m allowed to say that she didn’t or couldn’t have used it based on the fact that she never did in part 1.

Point blank period..

This is what your saying. At some point tsunade created the byakugo seal, then at some point in the time skip, she taught sakura.... just the seal... right? Let’s keep going

Then(according to you so far, correct me if I’m wrong) so then, at some point during ship, she learned the jutsu she used against madara... , granted, none of this is shown, which is the very argument your using against me(that we don’t see something).

^^^^your on a keyboard tangent lol

Not only that, your telling me sakura learned the exact same jutsu, on her own

Stop putting words in my mouth.. just as you were wrong for saying that I said Sakura beat Kaguya alone, I never said that Sakura nor hinted at Sakura learning Byakugo on her own. What I said was that the requirements for the technique (which is strictly chakra control) was something Sakura was already an expert at before being genin so Sakura using the technique promplty as Tsunade makes sense.

Take what you will from that but I never said nor thought Sakura taught herself or rather knew how to attain Byakugo by herself.

[/QUOTE]I’m asking now, that world is built and history is established and nothing could really be changed(excluding boruto) did she have it, like once kishi put it in the manga, did he intend it to be something she had all along[/QUOTE]

You can fantasize about what you think kishi intentions were, you’d actually be better off doing that because I’m actuality Tsunade simply didn’t have Byakugo: Strength Of A Hundred Technique in part one unless you can find the validity of the opposite in the manga.

 

[InfiniteMugen]

Lmao so your gonna ignore my response to you saying “Sakura fans need to get off.. no one is doing a Tsunade vs Sakura thing” right? I clearly laid out that the “ones” you said weren’t doing a “Tsunade vs Sakura thing” clearly was... take this L sir and remember reading is fundamental.



Your thinking way to hard fam.. it’s this simple, you can’t say part 1 Tsunade can use Byakugo: Strength Of A Hundred Technique against anyone based on any fact becuase the technique was not dawned, mentioned, hinted at, not used by Tsunade in part 1 factually. It doesn’t matter if you think she could’ve done it or if you think that she had ability to do so, you can’t say she knew it or had it but I’m allowed to say that she didn’t or couldn’t have used it based on the fact that she never did in part 1.

Point blank period..




^^^^your on a keyboard tangent lol



Stop putting words in my mouth.. just as you were wrong for saying that I said Sakura beat Kaguya alone, I never said that Sakura nor hinted at Sakura learning Byakugo on her own. What I said was that the requirements for the technique (which is strictly chakra control) was something Sakura was already an expert at before being genin so Sakura using the technique promplty as Tsunade makes sense.

Take what you will from that but I never said nor thought Sakura taught herself or rather knew how to attain Byakugo by herself.

Other than her actually having the seal for strength of a hundred in pt 1? As that’s what the data book says, the strength of a hundred seal accumulates chakra over years... meaning she’s had if for years if she has the seal?

Are you meaning to argue she didn’t have creation rebirth? Maybe you should gloss over the db

Edit: did my research, she had strength of a hundred seal, and creation rebirth in pt 1, but not the creation rebirth strength of a hundred seal tech... which from what I gather is the same shit without having to do anything to start the healing. So your right for your original statement, I don’t know what you ended up with though

 

[FemmeFatale]

You sakura fans need to get off it, no one is doing a sakura vs tsunade thing. While I agree the concept of what she did against madara probably didn’t exist when pt 1 was released, a lot of other things didn’t exist either. Things where added onto pt 1’s timeline throughout pt 2 that we didn’t see. It’s not kishis job to spoon feed people common sense shit.

Saying sakura learned how to replicate an exact move tsunade “just learned” without any contact or info from tsunade is one of the dumbest things I’ve heard claimed.

First she solod kaguya all by herself

Now she created a jutsu all by herself that just so happened to be identical to tsunade. Nice

Doesn’t tsunade herself state it’s only used for certain instances?

SIs Sakur couldn’t use Katsuyu without the byakugou and literally used katsuyu perfectly when she gain it.

 

[shelke]

You're not the author of Kill Your Heroes, are you? That fan-fiction reads like this, too. Exactly like this, in fact. The resemblance's almost uncanny.

I see women in power make you feel uncomfortable.

And fictional women, women who don't exist, make you feel empowered? I think you've got bigger issues.

 

[FemmeFatale]

You're not the author of Kill Your Heroes, are you? That fan-fiction reads like this, too. Exactly like this, in fact. The resemblance's almost uncanny.

And fictional women, women who don't exist, make you feel empowered? I think you've got bigger issues.

I’m the author of your life, who can and will read your story at any given time

 

[Pulkit singh3]

You post these threads intentionally, How many times have you post these kinds of threads I get it you think Sakura is Fastest /strongest shinobi alive don't post same thing with different way again and again.

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Yeah no : the reason why Sakura was able to understand and read Sasori puppet movements is because of Chiyo.

I am refering to fact that Chiyo saved Sakura's life couple times before Sakura finally learned Sasori attack pattern.

Did Sakura read his pattern first time ?

Answer is no she got saved by Chiyo.

If many other characters had privilege to be saved against Sasori couple times they too would eventually become able to read Sasori attack pattern.

So no there is nothing special about Sakura mind here let alone being better than Sharingan.

Gave characters like Kakashi , Minato, Itachi,Shikamaru,Sasuke, Tobirama, Temari privilege to be saved by Chiyo and they will do same as Sakura.in analyzing Sasori attacks.

This is not a thread for real or facts posts didn't you get it don't waste your time here.