The reason behind asspulls

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People complain about things such as Boruto summoning Garaga even though that data book said that he has the lowest chakara reserves on his team. They call stuff like this "asspulls", and they have been complaining about them since the days when Naruto was the main character.

You people want the writers to adhere to all these stupid limitations, mainly to Naruto/Boruto. However, these stupid limitations are the reason why the asspulls have to happen!

I mean seriously:

Why did Kishi have to write it so that Naruto was so unskilled that he only knew about 3 jutsus without Kurama?

Why did Kodachi have to write Boruto as apparently having low chakara reserves?

Why did Kishi have to write it so that Uchihas can learn strong elemental ninjutsu such as katon as early as 6 years old, but for everyone else it has to be so hard and a jonin level feat, so that when Boruto shows elements it is apparently an asspull?

Why did Kishi have to say that it was so hard for Minato and Kakashi to add nature to the rasengan? He could have easily just made it so that Minato simply never got around to training to do it because he was so busy with hokage duties, and then he died before he could get around to do it. As for Kakashi, raiton could have simply been established as his personal preference over rasengan. But no, Kishi just had to make it so hard, so that Boruto doing it is apparently an asspull!


I could go on and on!


These limitations are the reasons behind the asspulls! I'm not saying that the main character needs to be so omnipotent or anything like that, but what the heck do you expect when you write your MC as having to supposedly be so weak as crap?! Of course you're going to get asspulls!

These asspulls could be avoided if the writers didn't crap on the MCs with these BS limitations!


Just look at Fairy Tail as a better example of how an MC's power should be written. Natsu is not so overwhelmingly powerful, but he was never forced to be weak as crap either!


Answer me this people:

Why do Naruto and Boruto just have to be oh so weak as crap?!
 

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You really just rambled and the examples you gave didn’t/doesn’t justify why Boruto receives asspulls. Kishimoto And Kodachi literally established Boruto’s chakra level and for them to just haphazardly disregard it should be condemned.
 

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i didnt read all - but Boruto having 3 elements from the start is an asspull as an MC - and him summoning garaga is another asspull , so everything that didnt happened in the past they are giving it to Boruto freely without any training and progress, they just gave him.

Next chapter they can easily make him do whatever they want to do , i hope u get the point. - just like they changed chunnin exams in the anime and he was in the finals and giving him the win over Shikadai when he should've lost
 

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In my experience here asspulls only exist for boruto and naruto and those directly related to them, anything else, regardless of how outlandish, is totally legit as long as it’s someone else
 

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Natsu pulls shit from his ass as well so let's not go there.

Anyway Kishi created principles that govern the ninja world, chakra limits, natures, jutsu. He did so to create story which could be written strategically and appeal to the people's intellect. He didn't want to go down the DBZ route of unlimited power etc because it would be just another knock off.

The appeal of Naruto is it's characters, their limits, strategies used to get the better of one another. You're just defending ass pulls which clearly shit on and defy established principles. Boruto as a character = walking ass pull machine, take it for what it is. It may upset you but we only judge by the writer's(Kishi's) established rules not our own.
 

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I think the way Naruto progressed was kinda smart, it seemed to make sense even though he wasn't the brightest. Don't know about this new stuff.
I'm guessing it's just a natural part of the evolution of the series, like Mitsuki has sage mode and stuff, like everyone is op now.
 

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lmao what I find hilarious about some ppl (mostly Boruto haters) is that they are thinking Kishimoto is some sort of savior/god tier writer compared to Kodachi, let's best honest they are both average writers and asspulls/inconsistencies isn't unknown to the Naruto series.
 

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In my experience here asspulls only exist for boruto and naruto and those directly related to them, anything else, regardless of how outlandish, is totally legit as long as it’s someone else
What asspulls are you talking about other characters?

Sasuke - suffered pain from cs and unleashed its power on his own
ms - should even got it earlier considering Itachi killed his family and suffering from tsukuyomi
EMS - just like Madara , Itachi's eyes were transplanted , which is his own anyways.
Rinnegan - only gift he actually got

Madara - MS-EMS, took Izuna eyes.
- fought Hashirama to gain access to senju power

Naruto - had kyuubi since he was born but still not an asspull since Kushina was an Uzumaki with strongest life force ever since Mito

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and so on....

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oh, yeah?
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Boruto - 3 elements from the start considering MC - karma seal given from Momoshiki without any w.e u say it. and he just using it. and now even summon which requires more chakra
 
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Sasuke -
ms - should even got it earlier considering Itachi killed his family and suffering from tsukuyomi

Boruto - 3 elements from the start considering MC - karma seal given from Momoshiki without any w.e u say it. and he just using it. and now even summon which requires more chakra

I want to address these two parts of your post.

About the Sasuke part:
No, Sasuke should not have gotten MS earlier because of Itachi killing the clan and putting him under tsukuyomi. This is because Sasuke hadn't even awakened base sharingan before Itachi killed the clan and put him under tsukuyomi. In fact, that tsukuyomi itself is actually what caused Sasuke to awaken sharingan in the first place (after fainting).

Now, I know you may be thinking that Uchihas can skip stages of sharingan. That is true. However, we have no evidence that they can skip to MS from not having sharingan at all. We saw Obito skip to MS, but he already had 2 tomoe at the time. Heck, even if we get into filler territory, we actually saw Hagoromo himself go from no sharingan at all to instantly having a 3 tomoe sharingan, but even then it still wasn't MS.

Basically, all of the precedent we have thus far tells us that you need to have base sharingan first before you can awaken MS. You can awaken base sharingan with any number of tomoe, and you can even skip from 1 or 2 tomoe to MS (and this will automatically mature your sharingan to 3 tomoe, as seen with Obito), but in all known cases you still need base sharingan for MS.


As for the Boruto part:

@bold: You keep saying "considering MC". What do you mean by that? Are you saying that the 3 elements from the start is only an asspull because he is the main character, and that if it was anyone else (such as Shikadai or Inojin) then it would be legit?

If so, then you are basically proving infinite mugen's post right.

Also, Boruto didn't have 3 elements from the start, and he did train to learn them. Mitsuki taught him the wind style gale palm technique. Raiton is his natural affinity. He learned water style some time later. In fact he has yet to even use it in the anime. He's used it once in the manga in his spar with Naruto. Even then, after that spar, Naruto noted that Boruto had gotten stronger and it was implied that Boruto had been training.

Plus, babies aren't born knowing how to use elemental ninjutsu, so its obvious that at some point Boruto would have had to learn the techniques and train to use them. The training is just off screen.
 

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I want to address these two parts of your post.

About the Sasuke part:
No, Sasuke should not have gotten MS earlier because of Itachi killing the clan and putting him under tsukuyomi. This is because Sasuke hadn't even awakened base sharingan before Itachi killed the clan and put him under tsukuyomi. In fact, that tsukuyomi itself is actually what caused Sasuke to awaken sharingan in the first place (after fainting).

Now, I know you may be thinking that Uchihas can skip stages of sharingan. That is true. However, we have no evidence that they can skip to MS from not having sharingan at all. We saw Obito skip to MS, but he already had 2 tomoe at the time. Heck, even if we get into filler territory, we actually saw Hagoromo himself go from no sharingan at all to instantly having a 3 tomoe sharingan, but even then it still wasn't MS.

Basically, all of the precedent we have thus far tells us that you need to have base sharingan first before you can awaken MS. You can awaken base sharingan with any number of tomoe, and you can even skip from 1 or 2 tomoe to MS (and this will automatically mature your sharingan to 3 tomoe, as seen with Obito), but in all known cases you still need base sharingan for MS.


As for the Boruto part:

@bold: You keep saying "considering MC". What do you mean by that? Are you saying that the 3 elements from the start is only an asspull because he is the main character, and that if it was anyone else (such as Shikadai or Inojin) then it would be legit?

If so, then you are basically proving infinite mugen's post right.

Also, Boruto didn't have 3 elements from the start, and he did train to learn them. Mitsuki taught him the wind style gale palm technique. Raiton is his natural affinity. He learned water style some time later. In fact he has yet to even use it in the anime. He's used it once in the manga in his spar with Naruto. Even then, after that spar, Naruto noted that Boruto had gotten stronger and it was implied that Boruto had been training.

Plus, babies aren't born knowing how to use elemental ninjutsu, so its obvious that at some point Boruto would have had to learn the techniques and train to use them. The training is just off screen.
What are you saying? he learned water? you dont learn this.... it comes with the ability naturally .... so whats ur point again?

Sasuke could awaken sharingan later , what does it matter if .... blalambksrbjdjdkj .... anyways, he was feeling pain all the time and that only is enough

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wait what? Training off screen? so whats the point of having series without training and see the progress of that training or something

another thing, sure, he could've have more elements, but thats the only thing.
 
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Now, I know you may be thinking that Uchihas can skip stages of sharingan. That is true. However, we have no evidence that they can skip to MS from not having sharingan at all. We saw Obito skip to MS, but he already had 2 tomoe at the time. Heck, even if we get into filler territory, we actually saw Hagoromo himself go from no sharingan at all to instantly having a 3 tomoe sharingan, but even then it still wasn't MS.
It's not a conditon of the MS to go to three tomoe first but even if it was Obito did go three tomoe first. Also he's not a MC, non MCs don't really need to explain their powers entirely.

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Basically, all of the precedent we have thus far tells us that you need to have base sharingan first before you can awaken MS. You can awaken base sharingan with any number of tomoe, and you can even skip from 1 or 2 tomoe to MS (and this will automatically mature your sharingan to 3 tomoe, as seen with Obito), but in all known cases you still need base sharingan for MS.
You do need a base sharingan before MS based on observational evidence.



As for the Boruto part:

@bold: You keep saying "considering MC". What do you mean by that? Are you saying that the 3 elements from the start is only an asspull because he is the main character, and that if it was anyone else (such as Shikadai or Inojin) then it would be legit?

If so, then you are basically proving infinite mugen's post right.

Also, Boruto didn't have 3 elements from the start, and he did train to learn them. Mitsuki taught him the wind style gale palm technique. Raiton is his natural affinity. He learned water style some time later. In fact he has yet to even use it in the anime. He's used it once in the manga in his spar with Naruto. Even then, after that spar, Naruto noted that Boruto had gotten stronger and it was implied that Boruto had been training.

Plus, babies aren't born knowing how to use elemental ninjutsu, so its obvious that at some point Boruto would have had to learn the techniques and train to use them. The training is just off screen.
Yes and No, a MC has screen time non MC don't so it's not as big an ass pull for them. It's would still be an ass pull because it's 3 elements(a jonin level skill is usually two elements). What make it's worse in Boruto's case it's without training for them, Boruto made it clear he didn't even train them in the manga. Even 2 elements would be ass pull especially at the level he's portrayed to have them.

And no Mitsuki didn't teach him gale Palm, Boruto was trying to learn wind scythe and he would've without training it. The only reason he wasn't able to was because Mitsuki said I made it difficult to copy(so it was a purposeful) act from Mitsuki.

You know my position on ass pulls and I've done many posts out lining Boruto's ass pulls.
 
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I think Boruto possessing the capabilities to summon gigantic creatures, and inherit renowned dojutsus, aren't an asspull. Considering the fact that he's the son of RSM user Naruto, and a Byakugan Wielder.

We've known that inheritance, and "blood" matters in Narutoverse by the lives of Hatake Kakashi, Minato Namikaze, Itachi, Shisui, Sasuke, Naruto, Boruto, Mitsuki, Sarada, Nagato, Tsunade etc cera.

It doesn't go against Kishimoto's rules, and established principles, actually.
 
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Overall, I agree with what infinite mugen said some posts ago. The Naruto vs Sasuke fan war that has existed since time immemorial in this fandom has made it so that some people can't fathom the idea of Naruto or Boruto or anyone related to them being strong or skilled.
 
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Boruto fighting and pushing back momo when the kages couldnt.
A fodder not even a jonnin in skill/strength pushed back someone thats k.o all the kages instantly.

biggest asspull in Boruto.
 

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Haven’t followed the Anime ultimately, what’s the problem with Boruto summoning that snake exactly?

Anyways, the examples listed about Boruto fit more in the definition of Plot Induced Stupidity instead of an Asspull.

Boruto fighting and pushing back momo when the kages couldnt.
A fodder not even a jonnin in skill/strength pushed back someone thats k.o all the kages instantly.

biggest asspull in Boruto.
That’s an Outlier.
 
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