[Discussion] Is everything bad a religion?
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salamander uchiha
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You're joking right? It looks like you're making up your own definitions or parameters for what constitutes evolution. If it doesn't meet the requirements of evolution then it can't be defined as evolution whether we like it or not.
There's a lot more to discuss on it however, I'm busy and don't have time to go into depth.
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HowDidIGetPrem
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Nah, religion isn't all that awful but it has too much input regarding practically everything. Even in a secular government, religions would still be shaping people's morality & influencing what they support despite the religions' own bases being from over centuries ago. It's out of touch with reality in more ways than one & lends into support for evil because some schizoid says he heard God telling him "x" group is after his own.
TheEvilOne
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I couldn't agree more. There is nothing more dangerous than religion in this world. Nothing.
Because all false gods should be laughed at. Who named that particular deity anyway, his name sounds awfully lame.
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Yeah the treaty of versailles placed a lot of restrictions on Germany. It was no wonder hitler managed to amass such a support to begin with.
I doubt it was "evolution" in itself, it's quite ambiguous, humans are more complex then that as they aren't primarily instinctual. They can cognitively process abstract thoughts/ideas, hitler did it more on the pretext of his values then he did it institutionally/instinctual.
Besides, the term "survival of the fittest" isn't stringent in that sense you're expressing, at this point especially. It's equivocal, let's say in a sense, a weak disabled man on a wheelchair constructs a WMD, he is powerful in essence, intellectually at least, those dying aren't necessarily weak either, biologically/physically. They just happen to be a statistical anomaly of specific perpetuating events. Someone getting his head sniped off, or getting nuked, physical attributes are almost non existent in nuclear warfare even if you had top tier artificial selection, there are countless variables in terms of humanity that the term seems constricted as the concept of strength is quite amorphous.
Besides, "fit" could also be of how many successful copies of generation one leads. Fit to reproduce or propensity to survive and pass on those heritable traits. In terms of tautology it's views it more broadly. Still it's based on predictive power, still testable and falsifiable. Paradigm shifts can occur.
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Yeah right
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In the new predator move, autism is the next step in human evolution.
What they don’t tell you, the gene will never reach a critical mass in the population where it can actually influence humanity. Why?
Because what girl wants to have *** and to a greater extent, have babies with a autistic man.
This might seem random, but I needed to say it.
Unless, minor autism comes with all the cool features of movie autism.
What they don’t tell you, the gene will never reach a critical mass in the population where it can actually influence humanity. Why?
Because what girl wants to have *** and to a greater extent, have babies with a autistic man.
This might seem random, but I needed to say it.
Unless, minor autism comes with all the cool features of movie autism.
UCHIHAKUNOICHI
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Except He is not false. He has done miracles. Blind People could see. Paralytic people,could walk.
I have been awarded with the chance to see these things. It's wonderful. And really powerful.
You should allow yourself to see these things.
UCHIHAKUNOICHI
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Because people commiting war crimes such as desfigure little kids in mass, while making their parents dig their own graves (I CAN GIVE YOU THE LINK) doesn't deserve justice by higher powers.
Because people don't deserve to see their dead ressurected again.
It's lame really.
It's much more '"cooler"" think that only my actions and judgement matter.
TheEvilOne
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UCHIHAKUNOICHI
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Not my fault if:
Blessed are those who mourn, for they will be comforted.
As in your world, kids who are disfigured can only hope a court will look at them - that's if IF they look.
TheEvilOne
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Why your god created disfigured kids to begin with? He enjoys when humans are suffering?
Don't get me wrong, i'm not judging you for being religious, I was too until I read the Bible. You should do the same.
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UCHIHAKUNOICHI
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Much people blame God Jehovah for all the suffering and wrongdoings, but that's because they think God is governing this world. But even Christ admitted: the whole world is under the control of the evil one. 1 John 5 19.
And Do you really think God enjoyed when he saw Eve and Adam getting away from Him to live bound by sin and its consequences? Specially living among demons and their influence?
And want to know how much of these true believers are not tempted by DEMONS, so they can take You away from Him? None is safe.
So stop the blah blah Moses suppported slavery, Paul contradicted Jesus when he talked about women, etc blah blah. (And yes, I read the whole Bible. There are even worse things.)
Because none of these people are perfect. And they too shall be judged.
Including demons that possess people and make them kill themselves. (YES, THERE IS A DISTURBING VIDEO SHOWING CLEARLY IT).
Ps: I Hate churches, and I my advice is: go to NONE. But don' t ignore the God that always will be by your side.
TheEvilOne
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1/ Isn't the Evil also the creation of God? Or you think evil created himself? Or maybe your god isn't strong enough to 'defeat' this Evil? Why is he even called an omnipotent god then?
2/ He prolly enjoyed it ye, hence why he planted the tree of knowledge right where Adam and Eve were. "don't question just blindly accept every bs i'm telling you or you'll get punished" this is the main principle of Christianity. Not to mention the fact that according to the Bible, god knows past, present and future, so he knew exactly what is going to happen, yet he did it anyway cuz lolz. The original sin is pretty much his own master plan.
3/ Its not just those things. The Bible contradicts itself in
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Also there are the wild fairy tales like the flood. creation myth. people turning into pillars of salt, etc.
Man created god in his image- hateful, violent, sexist and homophobe and not the other way around.
Demons? Come on.
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salamander uchiha
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While I don't agree with the Christian view of God(trinty) you're wrong.
1. Free will, choice are there for a reason, good/evil are down to individuals, he gives the choice of obedience. You could call it a privilege if you like.
2. The concept of test and trials for promotion from one station to another would be the reason for the second point, coupled with free will.
3. Who said creation and the flood are a myth? Are they a myth because they disagree with your understanding or ideals?
Man corrupts and misrepresents God to suit his own ends, that doesn't negate God's existence. That too comes from free will and choice, and eventual accountability.
As for homophobe how so? Under evolutionary standards Homosexuals would be considered natures rejects and an obsolete species who nature has deemed unworthy of passing on their lineage. They should be treated as they are (a defunct species), whereas God dislikes the act as it undermines human nature and calls for a return to the natural order.
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UCHIHAKUNOICHI
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1 and 2/ It's a misconception God Jehovah HAS justice, love, mercy. He IS. That's why when we got away from Him, we were bound to Death. Because away from Him we are nothing, there IS nothing, because he IS life itself. The same happening to Satan.
Power Time Talk: Humans have powers, that's why one of the reasons we are Image of Jehovah. It's shocking, I know. We are Powerful much like our Creator. We have the power to make choices, and NO ONE interfering. Not even the most Powerful being. That's how much Jehovah loves us. He didn't make us simply cute or intelligent, we are able to defy God's Will, and Goal ITSELF. Because we are HIS sons and daughters!
He enjoyed giving us an Earth to dominate, atoms, chemistry, physics, philosophy, artistics, nature....
But He also maybe wanted to know if You would really like to be with Him. It's shocking I know. Jehovah has feelings.
That's where the tree enters. It represents if You want to be under Jehovah's rule or not. Adam and Eve knew about this.
That's why the Devil said: "“For God knows that when you eat from it your eyes will be opened, and you will be like God, knowing good and evil.”
He clearly said Jehovah is a liar and evil controller.
The original sin is not God's plan. If so, why give the humans such a wonderful Garden, with your soulmate, and your goal already defined? Oh #such gore #Adam and Eve didn't stand a chance
It seems rather convenient for Someone really envious by the way.
And yeah, it's much like I warn a kid about fire burning. I know what can happen or not, but nothing can stop him/her.
You "@The Evil One"must decide if you want a super controlling God. Or one that lets people do what they like.
3/ By your logic, as much far as we got away from God (who is violent, unjust, sexist) the better we'd be. It isn't what's happening.
As for the contradictions. Make them explain how a God of slaves was able to survive to this day, completing the prophecies about the Messiah - actually with much precision, and not only that: completing itself during the APOGEE of the most Powerful Nation that ever existed.
I myself witnessed many miracles. And powerful ones. (You can ask me in private if you wish)
You can stick with grammatical and human's misunderstadings, I'll stick with such POWER.
The power of the Almighty, whose vision can blind, and will wipe away every tear.
I just hope one day you make amends with God. I'd like to keep Him just for me, but I'm obligated to share.
NarutoKage2
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Certain organisms with a given set of traits out reproduce other organisms within the same species with less favourable traits. Until the gene pool no longer contains the less favourable traits. That’s it.
It's not the face of morality, people wore moral before religion (ever heard of the golden rule?) and will be long after it's gone.
And some schollers say he was a christian, but lets just say for argument sakes that Hitler was in fact a atheist (a person that does not have a belief in a god) that still wasn't his motivation to do what he did, he didn't create the third rich and became the fuhrer because of his lack of belief in gods...
I don't really agree, most communists aren't moral, when you believe in equality of outcome (everyone is forced to get the same result) that is and can never be moral.
person a is a doctor who have specialized in heart surgeon who work 60+ hours a week. person b is a janitor and work 10 hours a week. in communism they will earn the same amount of money because that what it is, taking from some and giving to others.
even if he wasn't religious he used the bible to start a genocide across europa and most if not all of the nazies wore christian, they followed the teachings of the bible and political climate to do what they did...
The world your looking for is ideology, not religion.
well, they wore religion, and they wore fanatics in their beliefs, it's pretty close, however it isn't a religion, as i said earlier it's an ideology, like communism, feminism or the SJW worldview.
well, how else can you get good people to do horrible things to "none believers/innocent people" ? people usually gets indoctrinated in to religions and then stop being rational, at least in some aspects of their life, most religion people have cognitive dissonance regarding their beliefs, they can easily see how other peoples gods are clearly none existent, yet cannot put 2 and 2 together and realize the exact same reason why you don't believe in other peoples gods is the reason they (and atheists) don't believe in yours.
UCHIHAKUNOICHI
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Give yourself and your country Denmark some respect, and stop spreading lies about WW2.
Hitler clearly wanted nothing but respect to nazism. Be it Catholic or Muslim.
Jehovah Witnesses are some of the ones that didn't enter politics. Hence why they were persecuted brutally.
Hitler used the German hatred towards Jews, communism, and whatever people didn't submit to his system.
You are messing the Crusades with WW2.
And here I thought danes were much more better educated.
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Made in Heaven
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The living world isn't meant to be paradise. Stop being a baby.
Also, what do you mean being sexist? People seem to throw that word around a lot.
And being a homophobe shouldn't be a bad thing for an atheist like you.
Funny you say before religion when every civilization ever has been religious in one way or another. Not to mention belief in God is natural anyways.
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