What characters can beat Hashirama?

[Azarath Metrion Zinthos]

Rikudo tier characters only imo.

Guy wrecks him if he doesn't count as rikudou tier

 

[Jinrou]

Guy wrecks him if he doesn't count as rikudou tier

Can Guy differentiate wood clones? I think Hashi with knowledge of 8 gates can quickly use countermeasures and pretty much outlast the gates because iirc, Guy's transition especially into the 8th gate has a small window that can be exploited.

 

[Klubargutan]

Not really tho. Hashirama's (lets call it "regular") mokuton get negged by asakujaku as we've already seen how Madara burned his own mokuton with Katon, so fire works against mokuton. Not only Asakujaku is fire, but it's also taijutsu, which can break the wood on it's own (And with many hits, it can take down the many branches it generates).

When things get serious with Shinsuusenju, since it's still wood , fire should work as well, but Hirudora, as it took down Madara's Susano'o, should be able to destroy part, if not all, of the wood construct as well in the explosion.

Gai may have his work cut out in 7th gate, but I guess with high diff he can take Hashirama down. 8th gate is out of the question.

This is turning into irrational fanboyism. This is what Hirudora did to Shinju tree:

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chapter 667 - literally nothing...

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chapter 672 - Yagai...still nothing much
and shinju compared to shinsuusenju is not that much larger -

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Gai with 7 gates has no chance of destroying ss or beating Hashirama. Get over it

 

[Azarath Metrion Zinthos]

Can Guy differentiate wood clones? I think Hashi with knowledge of 8 gates can quickly use countermeasures and pretty much outlast the gates because iirc, Guy's transition especially into the 8th gate has a small window that can be exploited.

Guy could literally bend space and you think Hashirama can have time to weave hand seals, let alone knead chakra for countermeasures? As soon as Guy enters the 8th gate, it's just GG for him. Minato, Kakashi, Obito and everyone else werre fodder to Madara, and only Guy was pronounced as ''strong''. For a suicide move, it wouldn't look bad for Hashirama to lose to him, a technique drawing its power from the life-force, it should be as hax as it is

 

[Mellanoma]

6th Gate Gai can take anything Hashirama can deal except Senjutsu. 7th Gate is more than enough to break Shinsuuseju's wood (if 6th gate's Asakujaku didn't burn it down).

8th gate is overkill to anything that doesn't have onmyouton or any sort of hax defense.

Im not sure why Hashirama gets so disrespected on this site. Did you really just say 6th gate guy can beat Hashirama? and 7th gate can break Shinsuusenju? XD


Gai's counters for instant

FTW:

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Since when does 7 gates output more damage than PS/Kurama combined?

Just quit man.

 

[MissingFUCKINGnin]

You are quite exaggerating, but Asa kujaku might indeed cause a lot of fiery damage to ss, since wood is prone to fire..

Live wood is NOT prone to fire, it has too much moisture. Only dead wood is flammable.

plus hashi rapes all incarnations of madara

 

[Klubargutan]

Live wood is NOT prone to fire, it has too much moisture. Only dead wood is flammable.

plus hashi rapes all incarnations of madara

No way - another irrational fanboyism.
1 hit from black rods and Hashi's done.

Besides..why do you even respond? you think that Kakuzu killed Hashi while databook says otherwise...

 

[MissingFUCKINGnin]

No way - another irrational fanboyism.
1 hit from black rods and Hashi's done.

Besides..why do you even respond? you think that Kakuzu killed Hashi while databook says otherwise...

Databooks arent even canon iirc, plus hashi held back against madara, and madara had the whole 9 tails helping him as well...

hashi isnt getting hit with a black rod

 

[Animegoin]

Well obviously Madara

 

[MissingFUCKINGnin]

Damn you're actually serious

Hashi was getting hurt enough in SM vs EMS Madara that he was regenerating. Pull your mouth of his assest so your brain can get much needed oxygen.

@ bold - :elmo:


Anyways, Madara got his shit pushed in by hashi when he was in his full power and prime AND he had the nine tails and STILL lost...

War arc Madara wasnt even brought back at full strength, couldnt even use the rinnegan as well as nagato, AND had help from hashirama himself by implanting his cells... madara knows hashi reks him and has superior powers, thats why he lusted after his cells

 

[MightGai]

This is turning into irrational fanboyism. This is what Hirudora did to Shinju tree:

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chapter 667 - literally nothing...

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chapter 672 - Yagai...still nothing much
and shinju compared to shinsuusenju is not that much larger -

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Gai with 7 gates has no chance of destroying ss or beating Hashirama. Get over it

Hirutora:

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That thing in the background is the turtle. The island turtle.

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Mountain size explosion.

So yeah, it has the size to break up the body of the Shinsuusenju.

Also, on the first example hirutora didn't detonate, it was deactivated / broken by Madara's staff. Second example, the strength of the kick went to madara's ribs, not to the tree.

 

[Klubargutan]

Hirutora:

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That thing in the background is the turtle. The island turtle.

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Mountain size explosion.

So yeah, it has the size to break up the body of the Shinsuusenju.

Also, on the first example hirutora didn't detonate, it was deactivated / broken by Madara's staff. Second example, the strength of the kick went to madara's ribs, not to the tree.

No, it does not have the size nor power. It wouldn't be able to do anything to perfect susanoo, let alone SS...stop your fanboyism pls. And that "huge explosion" is nothing compared to this small bijudama:

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chapter 438

and yet 11 of them (even bigger ones) along with susanoo swords were not able to stop ss's arms, let alone the statue.

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even though they didn't seem to explode until behind (past) the statue...

 

[MightGai]

Im not sure why Hashirama gets so disrespected on this site. Did you really just say 6th gate guy can beat Hashirama? and 7th gate can break Shinsuusenju? XD


Gai's counters for instant

FTW:

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Since when does 7 gates output more damage than PS/Kurama combined?

Just quit man.

Yep, hashirama without Senjutsu (well, actually Shinsuusenju) is one thing, with senjutsu is another. Pretty much like Naruto.... and well, any senjutsu user.

Can Jukai Koutan attack faster than Gai's speed? Nope. Has there any proof whatsoever that Jukai Koutan or Kajukai Kourin wood is in fact anything other than wood? Nope, as a matter of fact we have seen mokuton get destroyed many times and by nothing too fancy either.

Also while we're at it, Kajukai Kourin can be cast only after Jukai Koutan. No tree = no flowers. And even someone as frail as the tsukichage was able to resist the technique.

Live wood is NOT prone to fire, it has too much moisture. Only dead wood is flammable.

plus hashi rapes all incarnations of madara

Madara already burned Mokuton with Katon. This ain't real life, it's just fantasy.

 

[Klubargutan]

BTW Live wood is flammable...go set fire at the forest and see how it'll burn down..

 

[MightGai]

even though they didn't seem to explode until behind (past) the statue...

Actually, if you check carefully, you can see that almost all (if not actually all) of the hands of Shisuusenju's back were destroyed.

 

[Klubargutan]

Actually, if you check carefully, you can see that almost all (if not actually all) of the hands of Shisuusenju's back were destroyed.

yes, but after the susanoo had been stripped off...and Statue had no harm

 

[MightGai]

yes, but after the susanoo had been stripped off...and Statue had no harm

It doesn't matter if it was after, during or before, the fact is that they can be destroyed and it didn't require anything really special or specific to do so.

 

[Klubargutan]

It doesn't matter if it was after, during or before, the fact is that they can be destroyed and it didn't require anything really special or specific to do so.

just 11 bijudamas with susanoo swords + the statue breaking it's arms off by striking susanoo-clad Kurama...nothing special :|

 

[MightGai]

just 11 bijudamas with susanoo swords + the statue breaking it's arms off by striking susanoo-clad Kurama...nothing special :|

So, it's just wood.

 

[Klubargutan]

So, it's just wood.

Yes, and hirudora is just a punch. If i punched wood, i'd break my fist and get splinters as a bonus