Hanzo and Mifune Vs Kakuzu and Hidan

[Red Slayer]

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Location-Big ass Forest
Distance-20m
Intel-Manga
Intent-Kill
Restrictions-None
Who Wins?​

 

[MightGai]

Hanzo in his prime dealt with the Sannin, which are at the very minimum stronger than these 2.

 

[Mellanoma]

Red Slayer you always have the best VS images lol.

Hanzo in his prime dealt with the Sannin, which are at the very minimum stronger than these 2.

Sannin were fodder during the war. They simply Lasted against Hanzo.

Kakuza can possibly solo these guys.

Domo and Tendrils tanks / counters all of Mifune Abilities
Mask can potentially take care of Hanzo

Worse case he goes aerial and negs Mifune

 

[MightGai]

Red Slayer you always have the best VS images lol.



Sannin were fodder during the war. They simply Lasted against Hanzo.

And many other didn't. And it's not like they got more powerful because they were titled "sannin".

 

[Uverdore9]

Mifune and Hanzo.

Former flings swords at super-fast speeds which team can't even process mentally. Anyone who tells they win gotta be kidding me for real.

 

[Mellanoma]

And many other didn't. And it's not like they got more powerful because they were titled "sannin".

True but Tsunade was a medical ninja AND she was the first ninja to institute the "One medic per team" rule. Thats what I mean by lasted against Hanzo. Based on the abilities we saw from him all they had to do was evade and dodge.

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He's not even injured in this image. As I said I think they survived his attacks and he gave them respect. It's not like they beat him.

 

[MightGai]

True but Tsunade was a medical ninja AND she was the first ninja to institute the "One medic per team" rule. Thats what I mean by lasted against Hanzo. Based on the abilities we saw from him all they had to do was evade and dodge.

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He's not even injured in this image. As I said I think they survived his attacks and he gave them respect. It's not like they beat him.

But you're saying that they were fodder at the time, which makes it surviving against Hanzo pretty much nothing, which is not the case. As a matter of fact, the three of them were regarded the strongest of their generation (and in no small part due to their roles in the war and that battle in particular), which should gauge Hanzo's abilities, because it's unlikely they got exponentially more powerful after the war and not in their prime.

 

[Mellanoma]

But you're saying that they were fodder at the time, which makes it surviving against Hanzo pretty much nothing, which is not the case. As a matter of fact, the three of them were regarded the strongest of their generation (and in no small part due to their roles in the war and that battle in particular), which should gauge Hanzo's abilities, because it's unlikely they got exponentially more powerful after the war and not in their prime.

When I stated them being fodders I was doing a comparison of themselves

Based on timeline they did more much more powerful.

Jiraiya got sage mode (Either right before or after Minato signed his contract)
Oro Edo tensei and live forever justu (He left the village after this and got edo tensei + research)
Tsunade possibly improved her byakagou and medical knowledge


The Part 1 / Part 2 Sannin would beat the crap out of Hanzo IMO.

Oro is immune to poisons at this point
Tsunade has byakagou
Jiraiya's arsenal is much more effective.

 

[Tauren Chieftain]

When I stated them being fodders I was doing a comparison of themselves

Based on timeline they did more much more powerful.

Jiraiya got sage mode (Either right before or after Minato signed his contract)
Oro Edo tensei and live forever justu (He left the village after this and got edo tensei + research)
Tsunade possibly improved her byakagou and medical knowledge


The Part 1 / Part 2 Sannin would beat the crap out of Hanzo IMO.

Oro is immune to poisons at this point
Tsunade has byakagou
Jiraiya's arsenal is much more effective.

Against Hanzo Sannins were in their physical prime. Their strength, speed, reflexes, stamina were in peak.

Bold : Nonsense that goes against manga ,despite all new power and SM Jiraiya knew he was no match for Hanzo .

 

[Mellanoma]

Against Hanzo Sannins were in their physical prime. Their strength, speed, reflexes, stamina were in peak.

Bold : Nonsense that goes against manga ,despite all new power and SM Jiraiya knew he was no match for Hanzo .

Feats of them using their part 1 and part 2 abilities?

Oro: Didnt have edo tensei/wasn't immortal
Jiraiya: Didn't have SM (Otherwise he would have used it)
Tsunade: Didnt have nearly as much knowledge as she does in part 1

I see no summons. No big jutsu marks on the ground.

Clearly there was no Massive battle like in part 1 when the 3 sannins fought.

 

[Tauren Chieftain]

Feats of them using their part 1 and part 2 abilities?

Oro: Didnt have edo tensei/wasn't immortal
Jiraiya: Didn't have SM (Otherwise he would have used it)
Tsunade: Didnt have nearly as much knowledge as she does in part 1

I see no summons. No big jutsu marks on the ground.

Clearly there was no Massive battle like in part 1 when the 3 sannins fought.

I said they were in their physical prime they were in their 20 + age and in part 1/2 they are in their 50 + age.

Part 2 Jiraiya openly admitted inferiority to Hanzo despite having SM so no sannin can defeat Hanzo in 1 vs 1 scenario unless Oro is allowed to use edo tensei.

 

[HowDidIGetPrem]

Mifune & Hanzo may as well be all hype since there are hardly any feats for them, but I think they take this with what we know. Hanzo's poison is a big burden on either any of the opponents, Mifune is supposedly fast enough to stop handsigns, and both Mifune & Hanzo have air slashes to maintain range. I mean, their only real task is not to get hit by Hidan or interrupt his ritual, which Mifune is capable of doing with ease.

 

[Mellanoma]

I said they were in their physical prime they were in their 20 + age and in part 1/2 they are in their 50 + age.

Part 2 Jiraiya openly admitted inferiority to Hanzo despite having SM so no sannin can defeat Hanzo in 1 vs 1 scenario unless Oro is allowed to use edo tensei.

never said they could beat him 1 on 1.

I said the sannin would beat the crap out of him. Sannin as in all of them. If we go down the time line and compare abilities im sure we could reach a point where Each one could beat Hanzo.

Hanzo's biggest weapon was the fact that you couldn't cut him and his salamander poison was OP as fk.

 

[Tauren Chieftain]

never said they could beat him 1 on 1.

I said the sannin would beat the crap out of him. Sannin as in all of them. If we go down the time line and compare abilities im sure we could reach a point where Each one could beat Hanzo.

Hanzo's biggest weapon was the fact that you couldn't cut him and his salamander poison was OP as fk.

Of course that combined they beat him. Hanzo is really odd character , a lot praise and lack of feats.

Manga is really inconsistent with statements, for example :

Deidara admits inferiority to Sasori yet everyone knows Deidara is stronger based on everything shown.

Kisame says Jirayia is different league compared to him and even Itachi kinda implies he can't really defeat him ,yet we know that is not true .

Hiruzen strongest hokage ever and strongest of 5 kages .

Kakuzu fighting Hashirama doesn't make sense too, I can't imagine scenario where he isn't obliterated in under half minute.

 

[MightGai]

When I stated them being fodders I was doing a comparison of themselves

Based on timeline they did more much more powerful.

Jiraiya got sage mode (Either right before or after Minato signed his contract)
Oro Edo tensei and live forever justu (He left the village after this and got edo tensei + research)
Tsunade possibly improved her byakagou and medical knowledge


The Part 1 / Part 2 Sannin would beat the crap out of Hanzo IMO.

Oro is immune to poisons at this point
Tsunade has byakagou
Jiraiya's arsenal is much more effective.

Not really, Jiraiya trained Nagato and the rest about the same time he fought with Danzo (as a matter of fact the three of the orphans were watching the fight) and when he trained them he was already known as the Toad Sage, so it's safe to asume he knew senjutsu by the time he fought Danzo.

Orochimaru already knew Edo Tensei before leaving the village as it was stated that he learnt all the forbidden jutsus there, the only thing he developed on his own after the village was the Fushi tensei.

Or possibly not.

Their fight with him was at their prime as it must be expected due to their age and fighting skills arround that point in time. IT's like saying old Hiruzen was his prime since he probably got wiser with the passage of time.

 

[Mellanoma]

Not really, Jiraiya trained Nagato and the rest about the same time he fought with Danzo (as a matter of fact the three of the orphans were watching the fight) and when he trained them he was already known as the Toad Sage, so it's safe to asume he knew senjutsu by the time he fought Danzo.

Orochimaru already knew Edo Tensei before leaving the village as it was stated that he learnt all the forbidden jutsus there, the only thing he developed on his own after the village was the Fushi tensei.

Or possibly not.

Their fight with him was at their prime as it must be expected due to their age and fighting skills arround that point in time. IT's like saying old Hiruzen was his prime since he probably got wiser with the passage of time.

Of course that combined they beat him. Hanzo is really odd character , a lot praise and lack of feats.

Manga is really inconsistent with statements, for example :

Deidara admits inferiority to Sasori yet everyone knows Deidara is stronger based on everything shown.

Kisame says Jirayia is different league compared to him and even Itachi kinda implies he can't really defeat him ,yet we know that is not true .

Hiruzen strongest hokage ever and strongest of 5 kages .

Kakuzu fighting Hashirama doesn't make sense too, I can't imagine scenario where he isn't obliterated in under half minute.

Before we continue you this chat.

Based on what we know about the sannins what feats do you believe they had when they fought hanzo?

Physical prime vs overall prime are two hugely different factors lol....

a 20 year old Jiraiya in his physical prime would get stomped by a 50 year old Jiraiya based on feats. But anyways answer the question please

 

[MissingFUCKINGnin]

Kakuzu solos this, Neither mifune or hanzo have a way to damage kakuzu through domo, he could just sit back and let his mask entities chase and kill them...

Poison wont work on kakuzu because he doesnt have a traditional circulatory system with flowing blood and vessels to carry the poison through his body... he is just a mass of black tendrils....

Kakuzu heart plucks and solos

 

[MissingFUCKINGnin]

Hanzo in his prime dealt with the Sannin, which are at the very minimum stronger than these 2.

ABC logic... mifune and hanzo literally have no way to harm kakuzu

 

[MightGai]

Before we continue you this chat.

Based on what we know about the sannins what feats do you believe they had when they fought hanzo?

Physical prime vs overall prime are two hugely different factors lol....

a 20 year old Jiraiya in his physical prime would get stomped by a 50 year old Jiraiya based on feats. But anyways answer the question please

veeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeery close to their prime, if not at it. After they fought Hanzo, they didn't really do anything of note in regards of their developments, as already stated that Jiraiya was the Gama sennin (I would assume we agree that Jiraiya's prime is Senjutsu) and Orochimaru already knew most or all of the forbidden jutsus. Maybe Tsunade was the one that developed the most after that fight, but the other two, which happens to be the offensive inclined ones, didn't.

 

[MightGai]

ABC logic... mifune and hanzo literally have no way to harm kakuzu

Hanzo's poison (Kazuzu is not immune to it) and Mifune's chakra enhanced sword which was on par with Sasuke's chidori enhanced sword (same chidori that effortlessly pierced Kakuzu while Kakashi used it)