SM Pain Arc Narita vs Current Sakura

[brandonsheen]

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By current Sakura I mean Boruto Sakura, or whatever you think the strongest version of Sakura is

 

[HowDidIGetPrem]

I'm just going to assume you meant to write SM Naruto. Sakura negs him, not low dif, she literally negs him.

 

[Scryed]

I'll go with Naruto high difficulty.

 

[salamander uchiha]

Pain arc SM Naruro gets negged, he's a fraction of what SM Jiraiya was. The only reason he took out any of the pains was because Nagato was drained and it takes longer for the other paths to recover after a major shinra tensei.

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On top of that pains objective was to capture Naruto so would have to hold back.

 

[Jinrou]

With Frog Kata, sensing and Rasenshuriken which attacks individual cells directly meaning Byakugo is rendered useless, i would think Naruto mid diffs her.

 

[Uverdore9]

With Frog Kata, sensing and Rasenshuriken which attacks individual cells directly meaning Byakugo is rendered useless, i would think Naruto mid diffs her.

Rasenshuriken is a chakra circulatory system attack not a cellular attack. Destroying it won't affect the functioning of Byakugo, as it's a reservoir reserve stored in a special seal.

 

[Jinrou]

Rasenshuriken is a chakra circulatory system attack not a cellular attack. Destroying it won't affect the functioning of Byakugo, as it's a reservoir reserve stored in a special seal.

Not a cellular attack?

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[salamander uchiha]

Not a cellular attack?

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With Frog Kata, sensing and Rasenshuriken which attacks individual cells directly meaning Byakugo is rendered useless, i would think Naruto mid diffs her.

@bold:That's a stupid point since cells are regenerated via Byakugou, if that was the case then missing chunks wouldn't regenerate. Hashirama regenerated the chunk Madara bit off which negates such notions. Also Madara compared Tsunade's healing to Hashirama''s and the databook did the same.

As for the rest they're pretty pathetic points that don't warrant a response.

 

[Uverdore9]

Not a cellular attack?

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But you can see it attacking the chakra-system instead of the cells.

 

[Jinrou]

But you can see it attacking the chakra-system instead of the cells.

lol c'mon man this is too much even for you. Not only are you going to ignore the image that shows the needles are going to wreck everything visible but you're also going to ignore the actual words "systemically attacks every cell in the body"as well?

 

[MissingFUCKINGnin]

Pain arc SM Naruro gets negged, he's a fraction of what SM Jiraiya was. The only reason he took out any of the pains was because Nagato was drained and it takes longer for the other paths to recover after a major shinra tensei.

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On top of that pains objective was to capture Naruto so would have to hold back.

Naruto was a better sage than Jiraiya... Jiraiya couldnt even enter sage mode by himself, he needed ma and pa, and even then he had toad disfigurations when he did... naruto was a perfect sage, like hashi

& he negs sakura BTW, she gets bamboozled by rasenshuriken clone shenannigans and ends up eating one to the face

 

[MissingFUCKINGnin]

Naruto negs sakura HARD... sakura has zero battle instinct..

she gets bamboozled by rasenshuriken clone shenanigans and ends up taking one to the face & getting vaporized

 

[Uverdore9]

lol c'mon man this is too much even for you. Not only are you going to ignore the image that shows the needles are going to wreck everything visible but you're also going to ignore the actual words "systemically attacks every cell in the body"as well?

I'm not ignoring the statement, I'm providing context.

If Rasenshuriken destroyed all the cells of the human body, how come Kakuzu wasn't disintegrated? The image clarifies it cuts off the network interwhinings of the chakra circulatory system.

 

[Jinrou]

I'm not ignoring the statement, I'm providing context.

If Rasenshuriken destroyed all the cells of the human body, how come Kakuzu wasn't disintegrated? The image clarifies it cuts off the network interwhinings of the chakra circulatory system.

Ohh okay.. so according to Kishimoto author of Naruto manga Rasenshuriken attacks cells but Uverdore of Narutobase thinks otherwise and says that isn't the case.

Interesting.. Who should i go with i wonder :dunno:

lol.. c'mon man. I never said destroys the cells you're making stuff up. Disintegration also occurs at a molecular level if some comics i've read are to be believed. And actually i think its in the db as well for Kaguya's Ash bone.

 

[salamander uchiha]

Naruto was a better sage than Jiraiya... Jiraiya couldnt even enter sage mode by himself, he needed ma and pa, and even then he had toad disfigurations when he did... naruto was a perfect sage, like hashi

You're an idiot, Jiraiya could enter SM on his own even though he wasn't perfect(ass pull for Naruto) fusing with Ma and Pa allowed for constant SM and combo attacks. Pa tried to do the same with Naruto but failed. Jitaiya is clearly the superior sage and took on fresh fully charged opponents with 0 intel whereas Naruto showcased he's a fodder.

& he negs sakura BTW, she gets bamboozled by rasenshuriken clone shenannigans and ends up eating one to the face

I'll ignore the struck off fanfic

 

[Uverdore9]

Ohh okay.. so according to Kishimoto author of Naruto manga Rasenshuriken attacks cells but Uverdore of Narutobase thinks otherwise and says that isn't the case.

Interesting.. Who should i go with i wonder :dunno:

lol.. c'mon man. I never said destroys the cells you're making stuff up. Disintegration also occurs at a molecular level if some comics i've read are to be believed. And actually i think its in the db as well for Kaguya's Ash bone.

So how'd you interpret the FRS DB? It says "countless blades attack the cells.." which mean the director never thought of putting a limit to the blade count (not saying it is infinite). If it occurs at the molecular level, it still would've disintegrated the whole thing; like Oonoki's Jinton which works at molecular level.

I'm not making stuff up; I'm enlightening you on what's happening in the scan. We clearly see it cutting the interwhining threads (chakra system).

What were you insinuating about The Ash Bone technique?

 

[Jinrou]

So how'd you interpret the FRS DB? It says "countless blades attack the cells.." which mean the director never thought of putting a limit to the blade count (not saying it is infinite). If it occurs at the molecular level, it still would've disintegrated the whole thing; like Oonoki's Jinton which works at molecular level.

I'm not making stuff up; I'm enlightening you on what's happening in the scan. We clearly see it cutting the interwhining threads (chakra system).

What were you insinuating about The Ash Bone technique?

Bold does not make sense as its a clear contradiction. No where does it state the underlined happens. You tried to claim cellular level attack leads to disintegration..

If Rasenshuriken destroyed all the cells of the human body, how come Kakuzu wasn't disintegrated? The image clarifies it cuts off the network interwhinings of the chakra circulatory system.

And i said molecular attack is what leads to disintegration which is exactly what Ash bone does. Look.. Kishi makes Tsunade mention cellular damage not

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with an image that shows the needles about to go through everything visible in it chakra network included. I see no reason why i should take your "enlightenment" over the author's words.

 

[MissingFUCKINGnin]

You're an idiot, Jiraiya could enter SM on his own even though he wasn't perfect(ass pull for Naruto) fusing with Ma and Pa allowed for constant SM and combo attacks. Pa tried to do the same with Naruto but failed. Jitaiya is clearly the superior sage and took on fresh fully charged opponents with 0 intel whereas Naruto showcased he's a fodder.



I'll ignore the struck off fanfic

No... fusaku stated that Jiraiya cant enter sage mode on his own because he cant maintain it without them, Naruto was a perfect sage and thus obviously a better sage than jiraiya... Pa couldnt fuse with naruto because of kyuubi... SM NAruto > SM jiraiya and saying otherwise is showing glaring bias with no recourse...


as far as the "fanfic" thats LITERALLY how sakura dies... she gets negg'd low diff'd at best.. and even if she DID come close to beating naruto, he is going KN6 and shitting mountains on sakura

 

[Uverdore9]

Bold does not make sense as its a clear contradiction. No where does it state the underlined happens. You tried to claim cellular level attack leads to disintegration..



And i said molecular attack is what leads to disintegration which is exactly what Ash bone does. Look.. Kishi makes Tsunade mention cellular damage not

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with an image that shows the needles about to go through everything visible in it chakra network included. I see no reason why i should take your "enlightenment" over the author's words.

The panel supports my explanation. Tsunade directly claims it destroyed his chakra network. Then she goes on to say it attacks at a cellular level. Now, both of these points support my stance. The misconception arose from "attack every cell" which simply isn't true. She says it in the context shown in a panel ago prior to saying this. She's simply saying it's not a literal attack on all cells but an attack that functions at the cellular level, the image shows cutting of the interwhinings only.

 

[HowDidIGetPrem]

The panel supports my explanation. Tsunade directly claims it destroyed his chakra network. Then she goes on to say it attacks at a cellular level. Now, both of these points support my stance. The misconception arose from "attack every cell" which simply isn't true. She says it in the context shown in a panel ago prior to saying this. She's simply saying it's not a literal attack on all cells but an attack that functions at the cellular level, the image shows cutting of the interwhinings only.

But if the chakra links are found in every cell, it reasons to say the blades must pierce the top layers to reach the lower ones. To reach the lower cells would entail the blades completely piercing through the layers above it, which effectively busts a cell even if it's not disintegrated. I don't think Sakura's getting hit by the jutsu anytime soon, but it'd put her down if it ever did. It'd damage her badly, and Byakugo could not possibly function without the chakra links that allow her to facilitate moving her reserve chakra throughout her body.