Naruto and Sasuke surpassing HashiMad was Forced.

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It was forced and just didn’t seem natural.

It happened too fast.

Naruto literally got 4 power ups in 2 days.(KCM,BM,BSM,RSM)

Sasuke only had double ems for a day.

The sage literally transcended time through death just to give them power so the story could progress.

It just seemed to rush.

Goku never surpassed Whis.

Ichigo never really surpassed Yamamoto

Rin never surpassed Mephisto.

So why in Naruto kishi rushed to put naruto and sasuke ahead.

Now he’s in a hole cuz naruto and sasuke the only ones competent enough to fight the big guys.

That’s gonna become redundant very fast.

That’s why balance is needed
 

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Damn right surpassing Hashi was possible but Madara there was no way that is possible. Madara had Rokudo chakra (Rinnegan) which would ahit on both of them even if we somehow believe it's not enough (Madara not using it's powers). He had SM + RSM + was the 10 tails JJ. There's no way two little turds with handouts from a ghost could ever equal the power of Madara. He had to get heavily nerfed for what happened to take place.

Naruto's handouts were on another level kishi started his descent into shit writing territory at that point. Kurama his enemy becomes his butt buddy, 50% Kurama matches 6 tailed beasts, 50% Kurama knows SM, 50% Kurama tanks Jyubi Dama's etc. And it goes on from there becoming worse.
 
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Thank u!!!!!


Sasuke didnt even have to mature his ems like madara. And Naruto didn't mature his body and chakra like hashi. Hashi and Madara owned and trained endlessly for their power. This is the reason why I consider hashi and Madara stronger. Idgaf what anybody else say. But narutoand Sasuke are stronger sadly smh

They messed s*** up by giving em powerups within three days smh.
 

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What did you expect? Naruto was not only the truest Asura incarnate, he was also the child of prophecy, and it isn't like Sasuke wasn't touted to have Madara's visual potency, thanks to being an Indra incarnate like him.
 

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What did you expect? Naruto was not only the truest Asura incarnate, he was also the child of prophecy, and it isn't like Sasuke wasn't touted to have Madara's visual potency, thanks to being an Indra incarnate like him.

Yea they had the POTENTIAL...don't u have to train for ur full potential??
 

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Sasuke would eventually become EMS Madara lvl - but Naruto couldnt come close to Hashirama without Kyuubi
 

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No it wasn’t because their prior forms already surpassed them. Reaching Ashura and Indra type levels was forced for Kaguya’s sake.
 

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Yea they had the POTENTIAL...don't u have to train for ur full potential??

I like to think that adult Naruto and Sasuke would have eventually surpassed Hashi and Mads, but to do that would’ve taken years and not just days. It was definitely forced and rushed
 
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Yea they had the POTENTIAL...don't u have to train for ur full potential??

not always there something call a natural born genuis which seem like half the uchiha are and they did train naruto to learn senjutsu rasengan and it variates and sasuke with his two years under oro and his constant fighting
 

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I like to think that adult Naruto and Sasuke would have eventually surpassed Hashi and Mads, but to do that would’ve taken years and not just days. It was definitely forced and rushed

Yea eventually they would've surpassed hashi and Madara but I would've like to see the progress
 

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Yea eventually they would've surpassed hashi and Madara but I would've like to see the progress

They could’ve made a spin off from TL of naruto and sasuke advancing that far against multiple opponents like through all the novels, it would’ve been so cool
 
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