I dont think there are 5 shinobi that avoid the strongest S/T Ninjutsu

[Blackzoro]

Physical strength is yes Susanoo yes, which can be powered up. His strongest jutsu is Ameno hands down.. This jutsu can **** Naruto up in multiple ways. He also is fast as just about anyone, perta, is a great jutsu against Naruto.. and the list goes own.. Naruto has power, which is easily counter by Sasuke..

As I said they are equal... because Kishi said so.

Sasuke’s physical strength can hurt Naruto? What magical strength does Sasuke have now that I’m missing? That’s my Q to leave this argument Lol. Literally all those rinnegan abilities you’re about to list none is a problem for Naruto besides Ameno and even that is not spammable.

You didn’t say anything about equal on this thread Lol.

 

[DHOH]

Sasuke’s physical strength can hurt Naruto? What magical strength does Sasuke have now that I’m missing? That’s my Q to leave this argument Lol. Literally all those rinnegan abilities you’re about to list none is a problem for Naruto besides Ameno and even that is not spammable.

You didn’t say anything about equal on this thread Lol.

When did I say Sasuke physical strength can hurt Naruto. All those Rinnegan abilities can't hurt Naruto but can nullify his physical strength advantage.
Ameno isn't spamable is speculation... Naruto and Sasuke are equal and that is Kishi word. This thread isn't about who's the strongest so why should I say they are equal in every post?

 

[Blackzoro]

When did I say Sasuke physical strength can hurt Naruto. All those Rinnegan abilities can't hurt Naruto but can nullify his physical strength advantage.
Ameno isn't spamable is speculation... Naruto and Sasuke are equal and that is Kishi word. This thread isn't about who's the strongest so why should I say they are equal in every post?

When you brought up physical strength I assumed that’s where you were heading my mistake. Ameno isn’t spamable because he stated it weakens his eye power.

I’m well aware of Kishi’s statement. I said what I said because you were arguing Sasuke beating Naruto then proceeded to quote Kishi’s statement of them being equal which was random.

 

[DHOH]

When you brought up physical strength I assumed that’s where you were heading my mistake. Ameno isn’t spamable because he stated it weakens his eye power.

I’m well aware of Kishi’s statement. I said what I said because you were arguing Sasuke beating Naruto then proceeded to quote Kishi’s statement of them being equal which was random.

When did Sasuke state Ameno weakens his eye powers?

My entire point is, Sasuke has more ways to beat Naruto then the other way Around. But since Kishi said they are equal, his word is the law.

 

[Vulpini]

When you brought up physical strength I assumed that’s where you were heading my mistake. Ameno isn’t spamable because he stated it weakens his eye power.

I’m well aware of Kishi’s statement. I said what I said because you were arguing Sasuke beating Naruto then proceeded to quote Kishi’s statement of them being equal which was random.

Ameno does not weaken his visual powers, opening portals do.

His opening portal S/T and Ameno are two different techniques.

 

[DHOH]

Ameno does not weaken his visual powers, opening portals do.

His opening portal S/T and Ameno are two different techniques.

Correct and it's easy to see those are two different jutsu.

 

[Calpal]

no one.
you can only react to the movement afterwards.

you could give someone alllll the jutsu in the NV,
put them against someone who has these four jutsu and they wouldnt even stand a chance: ftg, kamui, amenotejikara, amenominaka

 

[Pappasaur]

Do any s/t’s even have any power? Like most useful s/t makes sense but strongest? How do you teleport stronger than someone else? Besides, it’s usually the attack or jutsu that’s done pre or post teleportation that actually does any damage

It’s more about efficiency than strength. FTG needs a physical mark to be placed before you can use it. FTG is as fast as ameno but limited to wherever there’s a mark, and if there is no mark then FTG is useless.

Kamui is op but despite how fast it is, it still takes time for the jutsu to fully develop and leaves an opening large enough for someone as fast as Minato to get a hit in.

Ameno is instant and doesn’t need any markings to activate, as long as it’s within a certain range sasuke can swap places with it before anyone even realizes what he’s done. No seals, no hand signs, no movement, no time. Ameno Op

 

[Blackzoro]

When did Sasuke state Ameno weakens his eye powers?

My entire point is, Sasuke has more ways to beat Naruto then the other way Around. But since Kishi said they are equal, his word is the law.

I doubt any scenarios would be effective in an argument without a mention of the Tailed beasts but okay lol

 

[DHOH]

I doubt any scenarios would be effective in an argument without a mention of the Tailed beasts but okay lol

Ok.. So when did Sasuke state Ameno weakens his eye power.?

 

[Blackzoro]

Ameno does not weaken his visual powers, opening portals do.

His opening portal S/T and Ameno are two different techniques.

you’re right it’s the portal that Sasuke said weaken his eye powers. What I meant was the cool down from using Ameno.

 

[Blackzoro]

Ok.. So when did Sasuke state Ameno weakens his eye power.?

I confused the two read my reply to AraigneeDuSoir below.

 

[InfiniteMugen]

It’s more about efficiency than strength. FTG needs a physical mark to be placed before you can use it. FTG is as fast as ameno but limited to wherever there’s a mark, and if there is no mark then FTG is useless.

Kamui is op but despite how fast it is, it still takes time for the jutsu to fully develop and leaves an opening large enough for someone as fast as Minato to get a hit in.

Ameno is instant and doesn’t need any markings to activate, as long as it’s within a certain range sasuke can swap places with it before anyone even realizes what he’s done. No seals, no hand signs, no movement, no time. Ameno Op

Yea I don’t need the rundown, Best would the better term, strong is a weird term to use for something that doesn’t actually do any damage or exert any force isn’t it

 

[DHOH]

you’re right it’s the portal that Sasuke said weaken his eye powers. What I meant was the cool down from using Ameno.

Again, The cool down theory is speculation at best.

 

[Blackzoro]

Again, The cool down theory is speculation at best.

Huh? In the war against Madara he used it 3x then went on a cooldown

 

[DHOH]

Huh? In the war against Madara he used it 3x then went on a cooldown

A few things changed since the war.
1. Stronger/Mature chakra
2. 13 years of more experience compare to minutes.
3. No signs of ‘cool down’

 

[Blackzoro]

A few things changed since the war.
1. Stronger/Mature chakra
2. 13 years of more experience compare to minutes.
3. No signs of ‘cool down’

He hasn’t used Ameno more than 3x as an adult Ameno is not spamable

 

[DHOH]

He hasn’t used Ameno more than 3x as an adult Ameno is not spamable

I’m not going to keep responding to speculation. Get proof or just stop responding.

 

[Blackzoro]

I’m not going to keep responding to speculation. Get proof or just stop responding.

Actually you’re the one who is speculating. You haven’t provided any proof but actually nvm I remember you.

 

[Pappasaur]

Yea I don’t need the rundown, Best would the better term, strong is a weird term to use for something that doesn’t actually do any damage or exert any force isn’t it

My bad lol I misunderstood your post