[VS] Broly vs Frieza

[Meowazziel]

Broly will fight against Frieza in the new movie.
I wonder if he will kill him.
Actually i think he will.
In that case Frieza will have been defeated after all by the legendary ssj.

With Frieza dead its easier to continue the dbs story.
If Frieza survives the movie you may have to make him play a part again in the series when the series continues, but they probably want to come up with new enemies.
Meaning frieza dying would be convenient.

In the trailer, Frieza seemed surprised (in the overwhelming sense) by Broly his power when fighting him.

What do you expect from Broly vs Frieza in the movie?

 

[Sinthorus]

They wont kill off frieza, he's by far the greatest villain ever created in dragonball and super has just added more to his character development for all the fans to love. He was helpful, yet still tortured saiyans, kicking goku back into the arena and still had his sadistic side all to achieve his goal of being revived.

He's going to get his ass handed to him by Frieza who will be working on some weird plan of his own. He wont die but he wont win. In the end we will probably see him team up with Goku and Vegeta again just to get payback.

 

[Koibito]

Frieza is going to get his ass clapped but he won't die. The people love him!

 

[Cfighter]

I seriously doubt they'll have Broly kill Frieza—at least not permanently. They wouldn't go through the effort to revive Frieza in the first place and have him tease some kind of long-term plan/goal just to kill him off immediately after the TOP. If Broly does kill him, I'd be willing to bet that they bring him back by the end of the movie.

 

[Aominecchi]

I agree, Frieza won't die, but he will probably be the first one to fight Broly, and he will take quite the beating for destroying planet Vegeta and the saiyans.

Honestly though, I think Broly would most likely just want to test his power than the revenge thing.

 

[Rikudou Tobi]

In the trailer they made it seemed like Broly whooped Freeza's ass in Base form.

 

[OG sama]

They probably wont kill off Frieza even though he should have stayed dead, this is the same guy that killed your bestfriend Goku and you bring him back to life amd even let him roam around freely??

Broly shouldnt be no where near as strong as the current Frieza no matter what happens in this movie. He should be destroyed with ease but we all know Frieza is going to job and get his ass whooped which I have no problem with cause I'm not a fan of Frieza anyway but this is exactly why you shouldnt milk the same characters over and over again.

This new Broly has been either buried in ice for decades or is ancient. How in the hell is he just going to show up out of the blue and be strong enough to take on two Ssgss's and possibly Golden Frieza and do it in his base form???

Goku literally had only SS1 the first time he fought the original Broly. You mean to tell me while frozen in ice Broly literally just surpassed 4 SS evolutions and is capable of fighting two SSBs all on his own?? And that probably aint even the worst part, its probably going to take UI to beat this new Broly smh. If Broly is stronger than even UI then thats some absolute BS and bad writing for sure as UI is a form that exceeds all of Gokus super saiyan forms, Broly trumping all that with LSSJ would be awful.

 

[BusinessManTeno]

They wont kill off frieza, he's by far the greatest villain ever created in dragonball and super has just added more to his character development for all the fans to love. He was helpful, yet still tortured saiyans, kicking goku back into the arena and still had his sadistic side all to achieve his goal of being revived.

He's going to get his ass handed to him by Frieza who will be working on some weird plan of his own. He wont die but he wont win. In the end we will probably see him team up with Goku and Vegeta again just to get payback on a filthy monkey.

Exactly this!!! lol
Very similar to vegeta.. Ppl took a liking to freiza and with the tournament of power that went down and the character development.. Chances are freiza is here to stay... I hope this isnt a failed attempt at making frieza evil evil again... Either way, Idc for it.... It also dont seem as if broly is truly.. "evil" for goku..

 

[itachi4real]

They probably wont kill off Frieza even though he should have stayed dead, this is the same that killed your bestfriend Goku and you bring him back to life amd even let him roam around freely??

Broly shouldnt be no where near as strong as the current Frieza no matter what happens in this movie. He should be destroyed with ease but we all know Frieza is going to job and get his ass whooped which I have no problem with cause I'm not a fan of Frieza anyway but this is exactly why you shouldnt milk the same characters over and over again.

This new Broly has been either buried in ice for decades or is ancient. How in the hell is he just going to show up out of the blue and be strong enough to take on two Ssgss's and possibly Golden Frieza and do it in his base form???

Goku literally had only SS1 the first time he fought the original Broly. You mean to tell me while frozen in ice Broly literally just surpassed 4 SS evolutions and is capable of fighting two SSBs all on his own?? And that probably aint even the worst part, its probably going to take UI to beat this new Broly smh. If Broly is stronger than even UI then thats some absolute BS and bad writing for sure as UI is a form that exceeds all of Gokus super saiyan forms, Broly trumping all that with LSSJ would be awful.

So u think Goku beat broly truly??? It was plot!!!! U mean to tell me one punch out of nowhere was enough to end broly?? Nah.

I'm ready to see this cus it shows broly trust power.

 

[OG sama]

So u think Goku beat broly truly??? It was plot!!!! U mean to tell me one punch out of nowhere was enough to end broly?? Nah.

I'm ready to see this cus it shows broly trust power.

Well if you like Broly then thats fine but I'm not sure what you are getting at here.

Goku didnt beat Broly with SS1 thats true and he even needed some power from the others. But LSSJ Broly is a SS2 level threat at best, SS2 Goku during the Majin buu arc should have been enough considering a rusty Gohan was causing Broly pain. Aint no SS2 touching a SS3 so thats the only place Broly can be lumped in is SS2 level.

And look how much stronger Goku and Vegeta have gotten since then? Goku is so strong that his strongest form isnt even super saiyan related, implying hes surpassed even the pinnacle of saiyan power. Its a complete slap in the face to all the hard work Goku and Vegeta put in for there to be a saiyan whose been MIA for some decades now to come out of no where and start whipping Goku and Vegetas behinds in his base form.

I'm not saying you cant be excited for the movie and I'm excited and I dont care for Broly but I pray the Broly fans can humble themselves once the movie comes out. I hope the movie is great because I love Dragon Ball and no matter how bad I dont like a character I'm going to watch anyway because this is what I grew up watching and I love it.

=D

 

[NOBLE TOAST]

Frieza didn’t come back to life at the end of super just to die in the film

 

[AllKnowingShinobi]

Broly the sayian with no limits....gg

 

[Animegoin]

Well if you like Broly then thats fine but I'm not sure what you are getting at here.

Goku didnt beat Broly with SS1 thats true and he even needed some power from the others. But LSSJ Broly is a SS2 level threat at best, SS2 Goku during the Majin buu arc should have been enough considering a rusty Gohan was causing Broly pain. Aint no SS2 touching a SS3 so thats the only place Broly can be lumped in is SS2 level.

And look how much stronger Goku and Vegeta have gotten since then? Goku is so strong that his strongest form isnt even super saiyan related, implying hes surpassed even the pinnacle of saiyan power. Its a complete slap in the face to all the hard work Goku and Vegeta put in for there to be a saiyan whose been MIA for some decades now to come out of no where and start whipping Goku and Vegetas behinds in his base form. Thats garbage bad writing.

I'm not saying you cant be excited for the movie and I'm excited and I dont care for Broly but I pray the Broly fans can humble themselves once the movie comes out. I hope the movie is great because I love Dragon Ball and no matter how bad I dont like a character I'm going to watch anyway because this is what I grew up watching and I love it.

=D

Nothing you said here was wrong, that’s the reason they made Teen Gohan sleep out the entire Broly fight in the first movie. SSJ2 Teen Gohan would’ve neg diff’d Broly without even meaning to.

 

[OG sama]

Nothing you said here was wrong, that’s the reason they made Teen Gohan sleep out the entire Broly fight in the first movie. SSJ2 Teen Gohan would’ve neg diff’d Broly without even meaning to.

Exactly I came to this same conclusion myself. Teen Gohan was much stronger than the adult Gohan that didnt train for 7 years. The latter was struggling mightily with Dabura who Goku and Vegeta werent worried about in the slightest and they even said if he used his full power he would beat him. SS2 Teen Gohan was strong as hell and made a fool out of Bojack who, should have been stronger than that Broly if we go by the fact that every movie villain is stronger than the last.
And SS2 Teen Gohan one shotted him!!! So yeah he would have negged Broly for sure.

 

[Calpal]

They wont kill off frieza, he's by far the greatest villain ever created in dragonball and super has just added more to his character development for all the fans to love. He was helpful, yet still tortured saiyans, kicking goku back into the arena and still had his sadistic side all to achieve his goal of being revived.

He's going to get his ass handed to him by Frieza who will be working on some weird plan of his own. He wont die but he wont win. In the end we will probably see him team up with Goku and Vegeta again just to get payback on a filthy monkey.

bruh..
you really think frieza is a better villain than cell?

 

[Ansatsuken]

They probably wont kill off Frieza even though he should have stayed dead, this is the same guy that killed your bestfriend Goku and you bring him back to life amd even let him roam around freely??

Broly shouldnt be no where near as strong as the current Frieza no matter what happens in this movie. He should be destroyed with ease but we all know Frieza is going to job and get his ass whooped which I have no problem with cause I'm not a fan of Frieza anyway but this is exactly why you shouldnt milk the same characters over and over again.

This new Broly has been either buried in ice for decades or is ancient. How in the hell is he just going to show up out of the blue and be strong enough to take on two Ssgss's and possibly Golden Frieza and do it in his base form???

Goku literally had only SS1 the first time he fought the original Broly. You mean to tell me while frozen in ice Broly literally just surpassed 4 SS evolutions and is capable of fighting two SSBs all on his own?? And that probably aint even the worst part, its probably going to take UI to beat this new Broly smh. If Broly is stronger than even UI then thats some absolute BS and bad writing for sure as UI is a form that exceeds all of Gokus super saiyan forms, Broly trumping all that with LSSJ would be awful.

"Buried in ice" from where you get this "Buried in ice"? When?

Wake up m8. I think you're the one who get buried under the ice. And its true to said that. Because where are you all along these time? Just appear all of sudden in NB DBS and then talking nonsense without fact to support. Thats legit describing you as a person here.

Broly in this latest DB super movie is actually an entirely different Broly. Broly of Z is non canon because he is not under the work of Toriyama but Toei. While Super's Broly is the work of Mr Toriyama. Toriyama likes the idea of Broly and he made a decision to recognized him finally. So from now on Broly can be considered as a canon character to DB verse. Broly from Z no longer relevent after this. Super's Broly is the original Broly with its own design style and appearance. And all the logic that apply to DBZ movie no longer applies here.

So Super's Broly and Z's Broly are entirely different person altogether.

And there one important statement in the trailer that made whole situation more clearer; "the new Saiyan whom nobody knows"

If that Broly in Super movie is the same Broly Z fighters fought previously in DB Z movie that statement shouldn't have been made at all.

 

[OG sama]

"Buried in ice" from where you get this "Buried in ice"? When?

Wake up m8. I think you're the one who get buried under the ice. And its true to said that. Because where are you all along these time? Just appear all of sudden in NB DBS and then talking nonsense without fact to support. Thats legit describing you as a person here.

Broly in this latest DB super movie is actually an entirely different Broly. Broly of Z is non canon because he is not under the work of Toriyama but Toei. While Super's Broly is the work of Mr Toriyama. Toriyama likes the idea of Broly and he made a decision to recognized him finally. So from now on Broly can be considered as a canon character to DB verse. Broly from Z no longer relevent after this. Super's Broly is the original Broly with its own design style and appearance. And all the logic that apply to DBZ movie no longer applies here.

So Super's Broly and Z's Broly are entirely different person altogether.

And there one important statement in the trailer that made whole situation more clearer; "the new Saiyan whom nobody knows"

If that Broly in Super movie is the same Broly Z fighters fought previously in DB Z movie that statement shouldn't have been made at all.

I acknowledged that this was a new Broly did you not read my post?? I said original Broly and new Broly in that post so yes I am fully aware they are not the same.And lol at where I came from, I have been watching Dragon ball for my whole damn life. Dont let the Naruto-One piece avatar fool you I have been watching and keeping up with DBZ way before I even started watching those two. I am a pretty big DBZ fan I know literally everything about it.

Youre not telling me anything I didnt already know trust me. This Broly being Toriyamas work doesnt change the whole point of my post at all. And I never stated Broly being buried in ice was a fact, I was just throwing out possibilities but regardless of where he came from doesnt matter.

Goku and Vegeta have been training with the top dogs in the Dragon ball Universe for a while now, what sense does it make for a saiyan to come out of no where and be leaps and bounds above them and in a surpressed state at that? Thats just like Goku getting SSG and automatically being as strong as beerus people didnt like that shit but they are okay with a saiyan coming out of no where and being stronger than the two strongest saiyans in history who train with Gods and Angels on a daily basis?? Thats bad writing to me thats all I was trying to get across.

 

[Ansatsuken]

I acknowledged that this was a new Broly did you not read my post?? I said original Broly and new Broly in that post so yes I am fully aware they are not the same.And lol at where I came from, I have been watching Dragon ball for my whole damn life. Dont let the Naruto-One piece avatar fool you I have been watching and keeping up with DBZ way before I even started watching those two. I am a pretty big DBZ fan I know literally everything about it.

Youre not telling me anything I didnt already know trust me. This Broly being Toriyamas work doesnt change the whole point of my post at all. And I never stated Broly being buried in ice was a fact, I was just throwing out possibilities but regardless of where he came from doesnt matter.

Goku and Vegeta have been training with the top dogs in the Dragon ball Universe for a while now, what sense does it make for a saiyan to come out of no where and be leaps and bounds above them and in a surpressed state at that? Thats just like Goku getting SSG and automatically being as strong as beerus people didnt like that shit but they are okay with a saiyan coming out of no where and being stronger than the two strongest saiyans in history who train with Gods and Angels on a daily basis?? Thats bad writing to me thats all I was trying to get across.

Long running Logic doesn't always applicable all the time even in the fictional universe.

If one day you saw floating rocks on earth would you still say the same thing like "its bad or "it doesn't make sense at all".

Not all things are fathomable be it in real world or even in fictional world.

So starting from now on learn to embrace a new reality.

You can accept Jiren so why not Broly?

 

[OG sama]

Long running Logic doesn't always applicable all the time even in the fictional universe.

If one day you saw floating rocks on earth would you still say the same thing like "its bad" or "it doesn't make sense at all".

Not all things are fathomable be it in real world or even in fictional world.

So starting from now on learn to embrace a new reality.

You can accept Jiren so why not Broly?

I can accept Jiren because he isnt some random saiyan from U7 who has been there the whole entire time undetected. Now we don't know where Broly came from as its not explained yet but I'm assuming he is from U7. Jiren on the other hand was from a completely different universe so he never came out of no where because Beerus told us there were other universes out there during BOG.

But if we assume Broly is from U7 then whats the explanation for him not being found or known not even by Whis? I know an anime doesnt have to follow real world logic but an anime should follow its own basic logic. Broly being alive this entire time in U7 and not being detected by Goku or Vegeta for this long doesnt make sense. But who knows how the movie will explain it, maybe the explanation in the movie will make sense we will have to see.

And I just cant see a saiyan who has been MIA this entire time being stronger than Goku and Vegeta man. They train with Gods and Angels on a daily basis, how is a saiyan who went most of his life not even being detected by these guys going to find the time to surpass them? What exactly has he been doing to get this strong? Theres nobody out in the universe thats stronger than Whis besides zeno the other angels and possibly his attendants and Goku and Vegeta spar with him often. Whether Broly is some legendary saiyan shouldnt matter at this point, because he wouldnt be stronger than their teacher. It just feels like a big slap in the face to all their hard work for Broly to just show up out of no where and being head and shoulders above them. How would you feel if Goku just got SSG and was head and shoulders above all the GoDs? I doubt you would like that.

 

[Ansatsuken]

I can accept Jiren because he isnt some random saiyan from U7 who has been there the whole entire time undetected. Now we don't know where Broly came from as its not explained yet but I'm assuming he is from U7. Jiren on the other hand was from a completely different universe so he never came out of no where because Beerus told us there were other universes out there during BOG.

But if we assume Broly is from U7 then whats the explanation for him not being found or known not even by Whis? I know an anime doesnt have to follow real world logic but an anime should follow its own basic logic. Broly being alive this entire time in U7 and not being detected by Goku or Vegeta for this long doesnt make sense. But who knows how the movie will explain it, maybe the explanation in the movie will make sense we will have to see.

And I just cant see a saiyan who has been MIA this entire time being stronger than Goku and Vegeta man. They train with Gods and Angels on a daily basis, how is a saiyan who went most of his life not even being detected by these guys going to find the time to surpass them? What exactly has he been doing to get this strong? Theres nobody out in the universe thats stronger than Whis besides zeno the other angels and possibly his attendants and Goku and Vegeta spar with him often. Whether Broly is some legendary saiyan shouldnt matter at this point, because he wouldnt be stronger than their teacher. It just feels like a big slap in the face to all their hard work for Broly to just show up out of no where and being head and shoulders above them. How would you feel if Goku just got SSG and was head and shoulders above all the GoDs? I doubt you would like that.

"How would you feel if Goku just got SSG and was head and shoulders above all the GoDs?"

Ok I dont know about you but for me I will accept it and just went with this new reality.

Super Saiyan God is a new thing and full of mystery just like Jiren. Furthermore SSG is no longer a normal Super Saiyan transformation, its actually a transformation that brings out God Ki. We cant speculating this or that towards SSG the first time we saw it.

Ok let say the first time Goku brings out his SSG power and we found that this power went beyond Beerus' power, I dont think its a big problem. The story just merely telling us some new information and that's GoD Beerus's power level is actually lower than SSG power level. We are not new to something like this right? long ago Jiren was being hinted many times to be stronger than Belmond and we never complained about it at all. And if we take GoD power Toppo and put him against Jiren, Jiren still would overwhelm him.

So we back to the main point of discussion, LSSJ is a unique transformation from U7, its not SS Berserker transformation because that only applies to Kale fron U6. So LSSJ transformation is as unique as Jiren's power and it is as unique as Kale's SS Berserker form.

The key thing that you should take note; "Don't assume any unique transformation will be similar to normal transformation"

In Naruto verse we have Hashirama. A very unique individual.

One keyword for you "Unique"