[Discussion] The marine now stronger amd didnt need shicibukai

[nkiev1]

The marine have

Gorosei
Vegapunk
CP 0
Sengoku
Garp
Akainu
Kizaru
Greenbull
Fujitora
Gion (admiral candidate)
Tokikake (admiral candidate)
A lot of vice admiral
A lot of rear admiral
Etc...

Who can defeat this?? 8 admiral level..not includ 5 gorosei and CP 0
The marine can take yonkou and RA..the end

 

[Donald J Trump]

An old, ill,posioned WB nearly destroyed the whole MF.

Now imagine what Shanks could do with his crew and alliance.

Imagine what Kaido could do

Imagine what BM could do.

 

[Sir Blades]

An old, ill,posioned WB nearly destroyed the whole MF.

Now imagine what Shanks could do with his crew and alliance.

Imagine what Kaido could do

Imagine what BM could do.

@bold, facts :tea:

 

[nkiev1]

An old, ill,posioned WB nearly destroyed the whole MF.

Now imagine what Shanks could do with his crew and alliance.

Imagine what Kaido could do

Imagine what BM could do.

Tell me in what chapter WB is Poisoned??

And you forget that now marine have fujitora and green bull
They together are stronger than aoikiji

 

[Olorin]

An old, ill,posioned WB nearly destroyed the whole MF.

Now imagine what Shanks could do with his crew and alliance.

Imagine what Kaido could do

Imagine what BM could do.

you left out the fact that wb pirates got royally rekt at mf

 

[Loki d]

you left out the fact that wb pirates got royally rekt at mf

So true. I watched parts of that Marineford War through amvs. I'm thinking about watching the actual episodes.

 

[HowDidIGetPrem]

What's special bout destroying MF with his fruit. Bb turned the place into a tilt world the moment he got the fruit and MF wasn't all that big a place either.

 

[Uverdore9]

Marine isnt stronger. Shanks/his crew can nearly beat the Entire Marineford.

 

[WoldOfFingo]

Marine isnt stronger. Shanks/his crew can nearly beat the Entire Marineford.

fantasy... Wb a Yonko with aa crew of similar strength didn't stand a chance , they was lucky most of the admirals were just watching the show all the time, with Garp and Sengoku on the sidelines and Mihawking doing nothing
What can shanks crew do against 3 admirals pré skip , garp , sengoku , mihawk , shihibukai and an army of VA's and marines
If the marines went in for the kill from min 1 they would steamroll any yonkou crew

 

[Uverdore9]

fantasy... Wb a Yonko with aa crew of similar strength didn't stand a chance , they was lucky most of the admirals were just watching the show all the time, with Garp and Sengoku on the sidelines and Mihawking doing nothing
What can shanks crew do against 3 admirals pré skip , garp , sengoku , mihawk , shihibukai and an army of VA's and marines
If the marines went in for the kill from min 1 they would steamroll any yonkou crew

Whitebeard is in a sick state, plus his crew aren't necessarily the strongest.

 

[UNDFTD]

You don't consider Vista, Jozu and Marco strong? Come on now boyo. His crew is on par with the other Yonkos, the story progresses so Oda portrays BM commanders and Kaido's calamities like they are stronger, but if BM's crew was in the place of WB, it would be in reverse; BM's crew would be portrayed weaker, and WB's crew portrayed stronger in Whole Cake. It's just story telling.

@Uverdore9

 

[Love Cook]

You seem to not now what the 'Marines' actually are. There is a lot on that list that doesn't belong there.

Gorosei ? Do they even fight ? not the point because they're World Government. Same as CP units.

Vegapunk is a scientist. You know nothing about him or his affiliation. Besides he is not not known for being strong but for being smart. If this list is about being strong shouldn't his weapons not be on the list then ?

Sengoku and Garp are officially retired, and only sticking around for Kong as a favor.

And last but not least the shichibukai were also affiliated with the World government, so they were never marines to begin with.

All in all a nonsense thread.

 

[WoldOfFingo]

Whitebeard is in a sick state, plus his crew aren't necessarily the strongest.

Not necessariily but still generally the same leven of strength. The yonko have each other in deadlock , that would not be possible if one crew was visibly a lot stronger than the other.
In the end a yonko crew had to flee for their lives with their captain and a division commander murdered. Meanwhile the marines had still 5 admiral level combatants without wounds available.

 

[kiiro]

The marine have

Gorosei
Vegapunk
CP 0
Sengoku
Garp
Akainu
Kizaru
Greenbull
Fujitora
Gion (admiral candidate)
Tokikake (admiral candidate)
A lot of vice admiral
A lot of rear admiral
Etc...

Who can defeat this?? 8 admiral level..not includ 5 gorosei and CP 0
The marine can take yonkou and RA..the end

1.- Gorosei, CP's, Vegapunk dont fight.

2.- Sengoku and Garp are strong, they were at least Admiral Level in their prime. We dont know know if they are admiral level know, maybe they are Admiral level now since Aokji was stated the strongest of the Marines and then he was defeated by Akainu. So they might be in similar level since Garp also said he was gonna kill Akainu. Also, since they are old they wont be able to fight that much time and lose their stamina faster.

So we have 8 Admiral level Marines. I could see a Yonkou being able to fight them.

A Yonkou sick and old made Akainu lose conciseness for some seconds, that little time could mean death. So a Yonkou could at least fight two Admirals.

And then, the first 3 commander could give a fight to other 3 admirals. Maybe not win but also not lose with low or mid difficult.

We have 3 Admirals, well they would fight the others Commander gather up. It would be hard for sure but I think it is the Yonkou that could make the difference. I mean, the Captain is meant to be the strongest of all the crew and sometimes by much.

We saw how Big Mom could make a lot of destruction with Zeus and Prometheus, she could destroy an Island for sure with ease. And then we have that she destroyed the Elbafs with 6 years, I do think Admirals all together could defeat Big Mom with hard difficult, but 1 vs 1 I could see her with the edge, and if she fights them all 1 vs 1 she could almost defeat them all maybe.

A vice Admiral like Smoker was having hard time with Law, so a Vice Admiral could fight pirates of maybe 500 million berries. All the others are fodders.

But if we add the Warlords with that force then a Yonkou could lose.