Shinki trashed Mitsuki LMAO

[Glad Of War]

Shinki didn’t restrict himself like Mitsuki did, two diffrent levels indeed.

Shinki wasn't actually serious.

Gaara stated he's true skills are much greater than what he's showing.

 

[Jinrou]

We really have no idea if the sage transformation he actually uses right now is the same "form" he used in the one shot. It's better to wait and see. If it's the same form, then I highly doubt Shinki can handle him, he's way too fast.

Doesn't change the fact that if he could blitz, he would have never made that statement does it?

 

[DrProof]

The fact that Shinki beat the shit out of Mitsuki, and he even doubts his SM would be able to beat Shinki alone proves who's superior.

 

[MomoSaka]

Doesn't change the fact that if he could blitz, he would have never made that statement does it?

And you just ignored what I said completely, Mitsuki might not be able to enter the same form he used in the one shot, the one he currently uses might be a weaker version. And if you think that Shinki can react to something that Orochimaru himself (He wasn't serious but still) couldn't react too, then it's your problem.

 

[Jinrou]

And you just ignored what I said completely, Mitsuki might not be able to enter the same form he used in the one shot, the one he current uses might be a weaker version. And if you think that Shinki can react to something that Orochimaru himself (He wasn't serious but still) couldn't react too, then it's your problem.

That's because it was your opinion but in universe, the character you are giving opinions for knows his SM capabilities and despite that made the statement. Reaching a prior form or not is irrelevant as he knows what his SM is capable of which is why i said if he could blitz, then he wouldn't have made the statement.

 

[Solidus Solidus Solidus]

Off topic but Mitsuki didn't seem to be a good base fighter. Either that or Shinki was too much for base Mitsuki.

 

[MomoSaka]

That's because it was your opinion but in universe, the character you are giving opinions for knows his SM capabilities and despite that made the statement. Reaching a prior form or not is irrelevant as he knows what his SM is capable of which is why i said if he could blitz, then he wouldn't have made the statement.

No, he doesn't know everything, he does have another unknown ability after all. You're talking as if he actually mastered it when he clearly didn't (He has a perfect dragon sage mode unlike Kabuto, so we can assume when he actually master it, he'll surpass him-He also might have a byakugan or something), and the forms do matter, Naruto's various forms are a prime example.
Well, I guess Shinki>Orochimaru then.

 

[SeveN797]

C'mon bro.. If he could blitz, then he would never have made that statement.

Meh... they made Mitsuki say this, in order to make a younger viewers, casual anime only watchers and kids :

- believe it, so that fight could go either way even with serious Mitsuki.
- doubt Mitsuki's full power
- create more hype for Shinki

That's what this statement was mode for. These two will probably never fight again, so they wanted to leave us in uncertainty, and not make it blatantly and obvious looking that Mitsuki would win otherwise.

Yet everyone with a bit of more knowledge knows serious Mitsuki would win.

 

[Jinrou]

No, he doesn't know everything, he does have another unknown ability after all. You're talking as if he actually mastered it when he clearly doesn't (He has a perfect dragon sage mode unlike Kabuto, so we can assume when he actually master it, he'll surpass him-He also might have a byakugan or something), and the forms do matter, Naruto's various forms are a prime example.

What? Mitsuki is still a kid lmao.. chill out. Obviously he's not going to be at the prime of his abilities.

Well, I guess Shinki>Orochimaru then.

But you're ok with saying Mitsuki > Orochimaru which would mean he's > a whole lot of the old gen adults currently? :lol

Meh... they made Mitsuki say this, in order to make a younger viewers, casual anime only watchers and kids :

- believe it, so that fight could go either way even with serious Mitsuki.
- doubt Mitsuki's full power
- create more hype for Shinki

That's what this statement was mode for. These two will probably never fight again, so they wanted to leave us in uncertainty, and not make it blatantly and obvious looking that Mitsuki would win otherwise.

Yet everyone with a bit of more knowledge knows serious Mitsuki would win.

I don't understand.. wasn't it in the anime they showed Mitsuki beating Shino? If yes, the bold which is the basis of this entire post doesn't make sense.

 

[Belserion]

Shinki can react to Mitsuki's SM blitz now? The same blitz that caught Orochimaru off guard?

Cringe

 

[Invicta]

Mitsuki would have folded Shinki if SM was pulled out, that's for sure. At Base Mitsuki could penetrate his Iron Sand with his Lightning Release. If that was him in SM, that little ruse Shinki pulled wouldn't have worked, because he'd be too fast for him to dodge that punch, which he wouldn't have survived in any case if it was SM enhanced. More-over, Mitsuki states the suspicion it would cause if his SM was seen, further confirming he didn't beat Shino with FULL SM, meaning he can use it in partial. The fact he didn't even bother doing that shows he was indifferent to Shinki from the beginning. Mitsuki is a lot smarter than asking himself questions like what Boruto would do in the situation, or talking so casually while fighting a serious opponent. We saw how serious Mitsuki got when he really wanted to fight an opponent (Shino), SM was pulled out right off the bat, and especially since he wanted to test his limits. With Shinki, it was flaccid from the start, Mitsuki was just not in it, and even then, he managed to pull a few tricks out of the hat, and made Shinki start to take him seriously, although it wasn't mutual. In austerity, my discourse is maintaned that Mitsuki would, in any scenario SM is fully manifested, defeat Shinki.

 

[Solidus Solidus Solidus]

Mitsuki would have folded Shinki if SM was pulled out, that's for sure. At Base Mitsuki could penetrate his Iron Sand with his Lightning Release. If that was him in SM, that little ruse Shinki pulled wouldn't have worked, because he'd be too fast for him to dodge that punch, which he wouldn't have survived in any case if it was SM enhanced. More-over, Mitsuki states the suspicion it would cause if his SM was seen, further confirming he didn't beat Shino with FULL SM, meaning he can use it in partial. The fact he didn't even bother doing that shows he was indifferent to Shinki from the beginning. Mitsuki is a lot smarter than asking himself questions like what Boruto would do in the situation, or talking so casually while fighting a serious opponent. We saw how serious Mitsuki got when he really wanted to fight an opponent (Shino), SM was pulled out right off the bat, and especially since he wanted to test his limits. With Shinki, it was flaccid from the start, Mitsuki was just not in it, and even then, he managed to pull out a few tricks out of the hat, and made Shinki start to take him seriously, although it wasn't mutual.

Sarada already explained why Mitsuki's raiton penetrated through Shinki's sand. Shinki wanted Mitsuki to believe he has an opening. Shinki played Mitsuki like a fiddle

 

[Jinrou]

Mitsuki makes the statement against a Shinki who isn't even displaying his full capabilities according to Gaara.. C'mon guys lol.

 

[MomoSaka]

What? Mitsuki is still a kid lmao.. chill out. Obviously he's not going to be at the prime of his abilities.

Then you shouldn't say that he knows everything about his SM's abilities.:kk:

But you're ok with saying Mitsuki > Orochimaru which would mean he's > a whole lot of the old gen adults currently? :lol

Mitsuki does have hidden powers within him that are greater than Orochimaru's powers. He just lacks some skills and he doesn't have a lot of experience + he doesn't know how to use those powers as he wish (SM is one of them, and that says something).

And btw, yes, SM Mitsuki was capable of defeating Shino (He wasn't going all out though).

 

[SeveN797]

I don't understand.. wasn't it in the anime they showed Mitsuki beating Shino? If yes, the bold which is the basis of this entire post doesn't make sense.

Yeah it was, but what does it have to do with it ?

 

[Invicta]

Sarada already explained why Mitsuki's raiton penetrated through Shinki's sand. Shinki wanted Mitsuki to believe he has an opening. Shinki played Mitsuki like a fiddle

So did Mitsuki, he got pulled into the ground and was unquestionably infuriated by that trick. But the latter wasn't all that serious. I've made clear mention of the fact Mitsuki can be assessed when he might not be serious, and as eccentric it is for him, his drive to fight can be low if it's not for Boruto's sake. Like when he fought Shino, he was purely interested in fighting him, but he was also stalling for Boruto so they would become ninja together. In this fight, or the Chuunin Exams, there was little purpose for him to fight, he was just wants to stay in with his teammates, or we would have seen him pull more moves than he did. He just didn't seem to be game, for the very fact he gains nothing out of it, while for Boruto and Sarada it's a lot different. SM also wasn't used either way, or even partially. And the fact he gave up whimsically, instead of fight to the end proves the seriousness wasn't mutual. PS. The comment on the Lighting Releade Tech isn't to supplement other than the fact the trick wouldn't have worked (if SM was at play), than whether it normally would.

 

[Jinrou]

Then you shouldn't say that he knows everything about his SM's abilities.:kk:

That's because we are talking about now? You are bringing an hypothetical future Mitsuki to battle current Shinki. Not sure if it was accepted... but there used to be talk on here about how War SM Naruto > Pain Naruto.. If that's true, then do you see what i'm getting at?

Mitsuki does have hidden powers within him that are greater than Orochimaru's powers. He just lacks some skills and he doesn't have a lot of experience + he doesn't know how to use those powers as he wish (SM is one of them, and that says something)

And btw, yes, SM Mitsuki was capable of defeating Shino (He wasn't going all out though).

Well, could the bold be why he made the statement with regards to Shinki? :lol

Yeah it was, but what does it have to do with it ?

Hype for Mitsuki's power has already been depicted with him beating Shino.. With that, it would make no sense for the statement to be directed at young viewers so that "they'll doubt Mitsuki's full power"

That statement was pretty much for everyone and it was more so everyone will "believe it, so that fight could go either way even with serious Mitsuki."

 

[Ansatsuken]

Where is Michael when we need him to settle this dispute???

 

[MomoSaka]

That's because we are talking about now? You are bringing an hypothetical future Mitsuki to battle current Shinki. Not sure if it was accepted... but there used to be talk on here about how War SM Naruto > Pain Naruto.. If that's true, then do you see what i'm getting at?

Still, there's no way Shinki can react to his speed, just deal with it. Pretty sure that Mitsuki can only use a weaker version or his sage mode is actually going to get nerfed and weakened so the others can have a chance to keep up with him.

Well, could the bold be why he made the statement with regards to Shinki? :lol

Was talking about him surpassing "Orochimaru" not "Shinki".:lol
The skills needed to surpass Oro are far greater than those needed to deal with Shinki.:lol

 

[Invicta]

Mitsuki makes the statement against a Shinki who isn't even displaying his full capabilities according to Gaara.. C'mon guys lol.

He could tell he wasn't going all out either. He wasn't basing it on only what he had seen of Shinki, as Shinki didn't judge him as weak based off what he had seen of him. Or he would have said how underwhelming he was, if that was all to him. Instead, he throws more shade, because he's disappointed Mitsuki doesn't display his true power.