Shinki doesn't hold a candle to my boy, Mitsuki

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Nah. Mitsuki is just too strong, he's sitting in his own level, a straight genius that even Boruto with ass-pulls after ass-pulls (cheerleading considered) would ultimately lose to. He got Sage Mode if Base doesn't cut it, like against one of the most skilled shinobi in Konoha, after which probably harnessing a fraction of it secured a win that ended up with Shino with his butt stuck to the ground and him trying to vocally mitigate the fact that he just got beat by a kid by attributing it to Orochimaru's parenting.

Anyway, I got to say though that Shinki will be a worthy opponent, even though Mitsuki at FULL POWER crushes his nuts. He might hold back for the secrecy of his powers, but the bottom line, Mitsuki would, in all out fight make a puddle of Shinki, as not only as he an experienced ninja, probably more than Shinki, but he's also just OP. They can't even quantity his chakra pool, whereas they probably could Naruto's and his stamina is rated above the others, especially since in the Anime, he defeated Shino, and not long after saved Boruto while physically drasticting Kakashi, and then joining the group sealing even after all the injuries he sustained and the chakra he had used already.

His speed in summary is faster than Naruto with his 4 Tails power awakened, as he not only was untraceable to Orochimaru, whose tracking abilities allowed him to perceive that amount of speed, but he outright touched him without him barely noticing what had happened. He has a horn protruding from his forehead, and an extrapolation can be drawn here, as the more powerful a Sage Mode or power anyone holds, the more distinct their appearance qualities become, and it can reach the point of procuring a horn, like Kabuto whose Sage Mode was undoubtedly stronger than SM Naruto's. The fact Mitsuki's Sage Mode gives him an enveloping chakra that probably cannot be penetrated by any ninjutsu, that isn't at S-rank makes it extremely formidable and the fact his already heightened senses are taken up to an extreme and made even sharper, which means his reaction is about as good as Sage Mode reaction comes and probably even more. In short, Shinki would better run if SM ever fully came out and it wasn't trickles of it in usage, like it probably was the case against Shino (or he would have been terrified and ran his mouth to Naruto about it).

I wrote a whole lot, and I acknowledge I'm a bit bias, but I'm overall confident Shinki just isn't ready for SM Mitsuki yet. He isn't ready for this:

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Lol no Mitsuki is not faster than 4T V2 Naruto, none of his abilities would even come close. He's a cut above the rest but you can't place his abilities on the same tier as a Jinchuriki of the most powerful Bijuu in their V2 form
 

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Nobody holds a candle to your boy in the Boruto riding train that's for sure. He's ever ready to whip out his snake in the sevice of Boruto. He practically breathes, sleeps possibly eats and drinks Boruto.

Shinki's above Gaara that's for certain so he'll reach high Jonin level instead of low Jonin like Gaara. I'll wait to reserve judgement on Mitsuki even if I put him above most it depends how far he went tbh.
 

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Lol no Mitsuki is not faster than 4T V2 Naruto, none of his abilities would even come close. He's a cut above the rest but you can't place his abilities on the same tier as a Jinchuriki of the most powerful Bijuu in their V2 form
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I get what you're saying. Naruto has one of the most powerful Tailed Beasts and his 4 Tails would put him in a different tier than say, Killer Bee's, but that doesn't have a factor on anything considering what we've witnessed and comparing the fact Orochimaru could track this speed you so revere while he was outsped by Mitsuki to the point of bewilderment, and that didn't even seem to be Mitsuki seriously doing it. He just went and grabbed the scroll like it was nothing.
 
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Nobody holds a candle to your boy in the Boruto riding train that's for sure. He's ever ready to whip out his snake in the sevice of Boruto. He practically breathes, sleeps possibly eats and drinks Boruto.

Shinki's above Gaara that's for certain so he'll reach high Jonin level instead of low Jonin like Gaara. I'll wait to reserve judgement on Mitsuki even if I put him above most it depends how far he went tbh.
Unless you can actually debate how Shinki defeats Shino (who's at a higher ranking and status than Shinki), then your point is moot, and for the rest of what you said, it seems to be held on the personal.
 

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Fucking agree, bro. Mitsuki >>>> Shinki. That fight could go down either way, the translations could be all wrong and Mitsuki will end it by tapping into that SM. I'm open for all possibilities though, and Mitsuki seems he wouldn't go all out and would rather forfeit if he couldn't end Shino and foresaw his loss. He also wouldn't want get everyone mad on how powerful he currently is, and thinks of his teammate's confidence that would deflate from the exposure.
 
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Unless you can actually debate how Shinki defeats Shino (who's at a higher ranking and status than Shinki), then your point is moot, and for the rest of what you said, it seems to be held on the personal.

It's factual not personal, if flourescent pink undies are anything to go by then Mitsuki will be spending the rest of his days in the company of his sun.

Beating Shino would be easy for Shinki he's one of the worst match ups possible. Iron would just poison and kill of the bugs and Shino. Also he possesses puppets which I assume are manipulated via magnetism poisons in them would be enough to deal with Shino. Shino's bugs can eat chakra but how're they going to eat iron? That's why i said he'll rise above low jonin Gaara and become an elite Jonin.
 
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I get what you're saying. Naruto has one of the most powerful Tailed Beasts and his 4 Tails would put him in a different tier than say, Killer Bee's, but that doesn't have a factor on anything considering what we've witnessed and comparing the fact Orochimaru could track this speed you so revere while he was outsped by Mitsuki to the point of bewilderment, and that didn't even seem to be Mitsuki seriously doing it. He just went and grabbed the scroll like it was nothing.

Oro's battle senses were much sharper back then, this Oro has been dulled by a life out of the battlefield and is essentially retired from a life of combat

Regardless, Mitsuki's feat was a surprise move which was unexpected. Under the same circumstances V1 One Tailed Naruto blitzed Oro, sending him flying across a bridge and tearing off his face in the process

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4T V2 Naruto is exponentially faster than that form, there's no way Mitsuki's as fast as he is, much less faster
 
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hold on a minute,just because mitsuki has sagemode doesn't mean that he would win that easily,u realize speed doesn't guarantee u a win considering lee used speed to blitz gaara and still lost,now shinki is a better version of gaara with better defence and offence thanks to his bloodline limit(magnetism) which he uses to control iron sand...shinki is clearly overpowered...in a battle between the two prodigies,it all comes down to who has the better strategy
 

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It's factual not personal, if flourescent pink undies are anything to go by then Mitsuki will be spending the rest of his days in the company of his sun.

Beating Shino would be easy for Shinki he's one of the worst match ups possible. Iron would just poison and kill of the bugs and Shino. Also he possesses puppets which I assume are manipulated via magnetism poisons in them would be enough to deal with Shino. Shino's bugs can eat chakra but how're they going to eat iron? That's why i said he'll rise above low jonin Gaara and become an elite Jonin.
I don't know why you are saying all of this weird stuff and legit expecting a response. I will move over it again, just in case you didn't get what my implication was with my last comment on.

I was legit thinking you wouldn't try to speak for Shinki, and going into that opens a can of worms we don't want more than we already have on our plate. Facts are and let me drop them real quick: Shino's smarter than Shinki, faster, since both are stationary opponents, but Shino has had way more encounters with taijutsu practioners, the dude also had more bugs he didn't use against Mitsuki so who knows how powerful they are, and he can slip in a bug in Shinki's garments without him noticing and end him right there, Mitsuki had the fortune of having wind release to prevent any strategic moves of that nature. Anyway, bottom line, Mitsuki HAS DEFEATED SHINO, Shinki hasn't, and none of what we have seen of him makes him that formidable. He's a risk you wouldn't want to bet your money on (especially knowing what we know about Shino and what we know of Shinki, which is about as good nothing to really debate for him), unless you are they type that closes their eyes and places their bets on anything their money drops on. Main point to note: Shino is on a class of his own and Shinki's inferior in every respect sided against Shino. He's nothing against Shino's defeats and losses altogether.
 
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I feel like Shinki being this strong it's kind of shoved down of throats.
 

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Oro's battle senses were much sharper back then, this Oro has been dulled by a life out of the battlefield and is essentially retired from a life of combat

Regardless, Mitsuki's feat was a surprise move which was unexpected. Under the same circumstances V1 One Tailed Naruto blitzed Oro, sending him flying across a bridge and tearing off his face in the process

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4T V2 Naruto is exponentially faster than that form, there's no way Mitsuki's as fast as he is, much less faster
1. Excuse

2. Mitsuki was radiating with rage. Orochimaru is a trained shinobi and still retains some shinobi skills, as did Mitsuki who unlike Orochimaru got all of his memory wiped out and still could dodge a surprise attack from an adult. Orochimaru's guard therefore went up instinctively at that point Mitsuki awakened his power, and was therefore expecting anything, considering how frustated he was.

3. He probably is. Sasuke was able to combat with Orochimaru and even if it was mostly causal for the latter, there were some surprises that caught him off-guard even though Sasuke wasn't that fast then. Orochimaru therefore isn't all that fast, and if he could react so casually to Naruto in that state, Naruto wasn't all that fast either. He couldn't use Shunshin, which would then change what we're talking about here, but then it was raw speed for the most part, and so did Mitsuki use just base speed. Now for a shinobi of his level, he should know Shunshin, which adds yet more in favor of Mitsuki. Anyway, with your bias and my bias, it doesn't seem we can come to an agreement, but you're also stretching when you're implying Orochimaru didn't react because his shinobi skills were dulled, while Mitsuki probably hadn't been fighting much either and had lost his memories while he could remember his movements well.
 

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I agree that mitsuki is pretty good for the kids of "his" generation but he is nothing as compared to part 1 naruto.
Naruto and even sasuke were quite ahead of current generation.
 

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I agree that mitsuki is pretty good for the kids of "his" generation but he is nothing as compared to part 1 naruto.
Naruto and even sasuke were quite ahead of current generation.
Base Mitsuki shits on Base Naruto and Sasuke, every version. SM Mitsuki murder-stomps VOTE 2 Naruto, unsure if he can win against CM2 Sasuke who can levitate, but I would still better my money on the character whose power can make the ground shake, has protective chakra, natural energy of the excess, hyper senses that could be in the same ball park as SM Naruto's, shit ton of mad skills, like swordsmanship, ninjutsu of another caliber that makes Boruto's seem like it isn't versatile, etc. I'm over-wanking here, but you seriously think Base Sasuke/Base Naruto would legit defeat Base Mitsuki? Considering everything that we have seen.
 

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I don't know why you are saying all of this weird stuff and legit expecting a response. I will move over it again, just in case you didn't get what my implication was with my last comment on.

I was legit thinking you wouldn't try to speak for Shinki, and going into that opens a can of worms we don't want more than we already have on our plate. Facts are and let me drop them real quick: Shino's smarter than Shinki, faster, since both are stationary opponents, but Shino has had way more encounters with taijutsu practioners, the dude also had more bugs he didn't use against Mitsuki so who knows how powerful they are, and he can slip in a bug in Shinki's garments without him noticing and end him right there, Mitsuki had the fortune of having wind release to prevent any strategic moves of that nature. Anyway, bottom line, Mitsuki HAS DEFEATED SHINO, Shinki hasn't, and none of what we have seen of him makes him that formidable. He's a risk you wouldn't want to bet your money (especially knowing what we know about Shino), unless you are they type that closes their eyes and places their bets on anything their money drops on. Main point to note: Shino is on a class of his own and Shinki's inferior in every respect sided against Shino. He's nothing against Shino's defeats and loses altogether.

I'll keep this short.

@bold: One has fought Shino the other has not. That doesn't go against Shinki or negate his potential to neg Shino. Your not slipping any bugs into a garment of Iron. Makeup of constructs plays an important part in a vs discussion. However that doesn't automatically mean he can beat Mitsuki it's about moves and match ups. Also you're attempt to use Shino as a measure to shit on Shinki is poor since Shinki has never faced him.

Shinki is one who the Kazekage D rides and is grooming for successorship so his potential is definite. It was implied once again when Gaara was pressed about Shinki last episode. Equally Mitsuki is one who was made to be the perfect vessel and is a child of Orochimaru that speaks for itself. I for one believe Mitsuki may be somewhat restricted in his fight against him.

I feel like Shinki being this strong it's kind of shoved down of throats.

It's actually not that bad, it's sort of expected because the 3rd Kazekage an Iron sand user was reffered to as the strongest kazekage. The only one being strong or a prodigy which is shoved down our throats is Clone (Boruto). It's a mechanism used to justify bs power ups, ass pulls and cover for bad writing.
 
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Okay,.but when the kid Shinki beats the brakes off of Mitsuki don't come back talking reckless. Shinki knows about SM for a reason ya boy clearly has experienced higher level opponents in his life time.

Niggas sleeping on Shinki like he not gonna give Mitsuki the work :lol foolish.
 

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Base Mitsuki shits on Base Naruto and Sasuke, every version. SM Mitsuki murder-stomps VOTE 2 Naruto, unsure if he can win against CM2 Sasuke who can levitate, but I would still better my money on the character whose power can make the ground shake, has protective chakra, natural energy of the excess, hyper senses that could be in the same ball park as SM Naruto's, shit ton of mad skills, like swordsmanship, ninjutsu of another caliber that makes Boruto's seem like it isn't versatile, etc. I'm over-wanking here, but you seriously think Base Sasuke/Base Naruto would legit defeat Base Mitsuki? Considering everything that we have seen.

Lolololol @bold is signature stuff :elmo:
 

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Shinki will be overhyped by fans, he will be another fodder from suna. Mark my word.
 

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hold on a minute,just because mitsuki has sagemode doesn't mean that he would win that easily,u realize speed doesn't guarantee u a win considering lee used speed to blitz gaara and still lost,now shinki is a better version of gaara with better defence and offence thanks to his bloodline limit(magnetism) which he uses to control iron sand...shinki is clearly overpowered...in a battle between the two prodigies,it all comes down to who has the better strategy

Agree with the beginning of this .. but lets calm down with the bold lol. Gaara at the stage Shinki is at right now would not lose to Shinki in a fight.
 
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