kakashi vs jiraya

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I think you're the only one who's wrong Swag made valid points and pretty much everybody knows Kakshi would win. You shouldn't let fanboying get in the way of the rational faculty, it'll make you :salt:y and intolerant.

Nah you said jiraiya was overrated and you're simply wrong about that and it will never be right
 
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Nah you said jiraiya was overrated and you're simply wrong about that and it will never be right

Jiraiya is definitely underrated -

OT - He beats Kakashi - he got Big Boss Toad Summon , sage mode - speed, different variants of Rasengan and Kakashi alrdy admited the inferiority to Jiraiya back in part 1 - I doubt he could even win with Kamui
 

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Jiraiya is definitely underrated -

OT - He beats Kakashi - he got Big Boss Toad Summon , sage mode - speed, different variants of Rasengan and Kakashi alrdy admited the inferiority to Jiraiya back in part 1 - I doubt he could even win with Kamui

Thank you, hell even if Kakashi could win, jiraiya is still underrated
 

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Kakashi rips Jiraiya's ass apart. No counter to Kamui snipe, and since it's spammable, he literally cannot avoid it, even if Kakashi misses one or two times. He can still drag the fight out until Jiraiya's a vulnerable target, if Kakashi was that unskilled in Kamui sniping.
 

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Kamui gives the fight to Kakashi, as it does in most 1v1 fights.

Without it, assuming Jiraiya starts in or can get to SM, he's the superior of the two. SM Jiraiya is among the strongest non-god tier characters in the manga. His ninjutsu is ridiculous, Gama Rinsho defeats 99% of the manga, Shima can summon the entire toad army herself, Fukasaku and Shima's tongues are pretty powerful, Kawazu Naki is equally interesting, frog kata gives him advantages over most in CQC, etc.
 

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Kamui gives the fight to Kakashi, as it does in most 1v1 fights.

Without it, assuming Jiraiya starts in or can get to SM, he's the superior of the two. SM Jiraiya is among the strongest non-god tier characters in the manga. His ninjutsu is ridiculous, Gama Rinsho defeats 99% of the manga, Shima can summon the entire toad army herself, Fukasaku and Shima's tongues are pretty powerful, Kawazu Naki is equally interesting, frog kata gives him advantages over most in CQC, etc.

Do you think Kamui less kakashi can be beaten by Jiraiya?
 

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Idk I could see it going either way


War Arc Kakashi is up there but a lot of his stamina feats are because he had intervals of breaks wether he was strategizing or watching someone else attack

Like how he spent a good 30 mins in the Kamui dimension after his showdown with Obito just to rest

actually he was cauterizing his stab wounds.
 

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in war arc he can use it 5 times. Thats more than enough to kill jman, either by snipe or warp to raikiri

That's if he can connect. Kakashi's stamina isn't the best either. I don't see him taking this honestly, even with being able to use Kamui 5 times. Especially if it's 1v1, considering how Kakashi gets after using Kamui, making him an easy target.

Kakashi rips Jiraiya's ass apart. No counter to Kamui snipe, and since it's spammable, he literally cannot avoid it, even if Kakashi misses one or two times. He can still drag the fight out until Jiraiya's a vulnerable target, if Kakashi was that unskilled in Kamui sniping.

Lmao nope. Kakashi gets rekt. The stomp only increases with SM.
 

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That's if he can connect. Kakashi's stamina isn't the best either. I don't see him taking this honestly, even with being able to use Kamui 5 times. Especially if it's 1v1, considering how Kakashi gets after using Kamui, making him an easy target.

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his stamina is just fine. Not to mention that list doesn't show all of his feats/jutsu.

and after all that he only gets tired from his fifth kamui. Either kakashi snipes him or he does what he for an instantant raikiri.
 

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his stamina is just fine. Not to mention that list doesn't show all of his feats/jutsu.

and after all that he only gets tired from his fifth kamui. Either kakashi snipes him or he does what he for an instantant raikiri.

Did he do all of that consecutively? Without rest in between or boosts?

Also let's not forget in the majority of those scans, he had backup. Sniping him isn't going to be a walk in the park either.
 

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Did he do all of that consecutively? Without rest in between or boosts?

Also let's not forget in the majority of those scans, he had backup. Sniping him isn't going to be a walk in the park either.

its consecutive. There was no rests. The war lasts 3 days. Kakashi fights zabuza and the swordsman's during the first day, he fights the zetsu during the first night into the second day, then immediately goes with guy to assist naruto fight obito. He doesn't get a boost from naruto until the night of the second day, which isn't included in the picture.
 

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Wasn’t the only reason kakashi was able to use kamui the way he did is because naruto held him twice
 

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Yeah practically everyone in the war arc received some ridiculous stamina boost. Kakashi's war arc stamina feats are some of the most ridiculous of all characters in the manga. Stamina wouldn't come in to play here for either character.
 

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Yeah practically everyone in the war arc received some ridiculous stamina boost. Kakashi's war arc stamina feats are some of the most ridiculous of all characters in the manga. Stamina wouldn't come in to play here for either character.

This. Even a genin would seem as though they had near infinite chakra and stamina if they were placed in it. Scratching out stamina, Kakashi has shown more impressive reactionary and combative capabilties than Jiraiya. Jiraiya's only real hope is strategic jutsu use in the face of an absolute beast.
 

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In the anime Jiraiya was only shown winning do to the make out books. this seems like a cop out to me.

Kakashi MS reaction speeds. and over 100 ninjutsu attacks kinda puts kakashi into a can't be beat tier of sorts.

did not think this thred would be Uchiha vs Sage mode.
 

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War Arc Kakashi stamina is the new Chuunin Exam Sasuke lol

Not sure how they got so strong but mangafacts
 
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