How do republicans help black people?

[Fountain]

I guess you don’t live near black people. Makes sense.

Am i supposed to live in the ghetto to actually be around black people? I see black folk everywhere. There are also tons of people who aren't black and live in poverty all over the country. Stop acting like this is a race thing and other people are responsible for your life and your decisions in life.

Black people are at the bottom at everything.

When you're being a victim where else would you be.

All this complaints go to deaf ears.

I know.

To explain the they can’t be racist bit. Racism is discrimination that assumes you can use your power to exploit another group.

Like how white folk are being exploited for special privilege on account that they're supposedly born privileged for being white and must bend over and shut their mouth because white people, a long long time ago brought slaves from Africa? Is that what you're trying to say? No, i think you were trying flip it around and say white people have power and exploit blacks like they did in the past and that's racism. Am i correct? The actual definition of racism is discrimination and hate against someone based on nothing else other than their race. It's literally just one browse away. It's not even what you said.

Black people cant deny whites a job.

So you wouldn't take a Job from a white person (sounds kind of racist) but you'd you rather live in poverty taking money from the government and whinning that you're being oppressed then ok.

Arresting them and charging them more severely.

This isn't a true statement. Other people get it just as harsh. And let's not ignore again the fact that blacks commit more than two times as much crime despite being a "minority" than anyone else, so it shouldn't be that out of the ordinary for other people to be more cutious, all things considered.

You need power to be a racist. Black people dont have that.

"You need power to be racist." That's not how racism works. "Black people don't have that." And therefore can't be racist duh. That's what you're trying to say. And the irony in all of this is that you don't even realize how much you belittle black people by victimizing them and saying stuff like they don't have power.

Here is a little case study. That white reporter who loss those advertisements. She said racist stuff before.

Like what? Shut up and dribble? So what? Lebron is a moron. The only ones with a problem here are the advertisers but they don't have to support someone if they don't want to so.

But she was taken down by a white boy. See, Black people, especially even a NBA Star have no power. Remember when she told that dude, shut up and dribble?

Black people have no power, especially an NBA star. Seriously?

Special treatment is just what you say they have. How though? Double the white unemployment. No financial gains compared to any group. Arrested harsher and charged harsher. Social benefits stolen by every person of color. Potential jobs moved away or stolen by immigrants.

I see what you're doing. Guess what Black employement is at its highest. They do get welfare like anybody else. They commit crimes so they are arrested like anyone else. And yes actually, jobs do get stolen by immigrants, illegal ones who have no right to be in this country. People who hate our guts and are happy to express, and how much better their country is to ours yet instead of supporting their own country they abandon it for freebies from the very people they hate. While many of them work hard to come legally and become a decent human being. And yes i do know that many of them are nice people that are poor and want to get away from whatever problems they have in their country.

You don’t want to be African American.

I do actually, sort of. I mean, it would be nice.

So Fountain. How would the Republican Party help them so they don’t have to be snowflakes anymore?????

That's what i'd like to know.

 

[Cornson]

50% of the american people are at the poverty line or under it.

13% of americans are black, so sure, it's only a black problem and not totally a class problem

 

[Yeah right]

That's what i'd like to know.

Here are a few ideas that republicans have to use to help black people, but they require regulations so i doubt it will ever work.

Guarantee bank loans for homes.
Prevent bogus mortgage deals from shady institutions that can basically rip off new homeowners.
Destroy Amazon.
Make it easier to form a business. Like china easy.
Get rid of restrictive patents and copyright usage that prevents competition.
Have government backed college degrees for STEM that guarantee jobs.
Free Healthcare.
Reparations??? If they do that, they will have the black population forever.
Stop college Sport organizations from taking all money from players (most are black).
Race and *** should not be mentioned in court proceedings. Jury should be behind a curtain or something. Maybe use a standard for every crime already committed prior.
stop low level drug offenses.
Here is one, create policies that treat black teens like they do rich white children. maybe call it black affluenza

 

[Aim64C]

To be clear, both parties don’t help descendent of slaves black people much. But I still think democrats are more closer to helping black people by and large.

This assumes blacks need some kind of special treatment to succeed in life. Why are you suggesting they are inferior? What is different about a black person that makes it such that the same patterns and methods of success among other races do not work on them?

To prove some point, make sure you don’t bring up Republicans freed the slaves. That has been debunked already.

No, it hasn't. The Republicans were the party that freed the slaves and the party that has historically supported the rights of all free citizens.

So it’s 2018. How do conservative/republican policies help African Americans who are actual descendants of slavery?

Do they harm them? Are blacks, whose great grandparents were born to slaves, somehow singled out by Republican policies? Is there some requirement that they be given special treatment in order to succeed in life?

For some thought experiments. Which party would favor banks to be forced to give loans to African Americans? Or have them have access to resources that other people have through regulations and watchdog groups.

If a person's income and assets do not meet the bank's requirements for making a loan, why would forcing the bank to place them in debt they are ill-prepared to pay off be a good thing? In another time, when banks were giving loans to people who couldn't afford to pay them back, it was called "predatory lending" as it enslaved a person to debt payments. That was generally considered a bad and irresponsible thing.

Further, none of these groups you mentioned are exclusive of black people.

Also, why would cuts in welfare help black people?

There are a number of factors. The restructuring of the welfare program to reduce abuse of the EBT system is rather important. Black and White alike will trade their EBT cards for cash or drugs, directly. The federal housing system acts to unilaterally raise the price of rental properties across the entire U.S. - which forces many people onto the system in the first place. Worse, much of the rental housing in the U.S. is owned by corporations and 'slum lords' who are effectively a government-sanctioned elite who have a captive customer who can't afford their own housing while the government funnels them tax payer dollars and stolen inflation.

 

[Lightbringer]

This assumes blacks need some kind of special treatment to succeed in life. Why are you suggesting they are inferior? What is different about a black person that makes it such that the same patterns and methods of success among other races do not work on them?

"Special treatment" would assume that the black community currently has an equal standing with the average white American, which they don't.

There are plenty of examples of institutional racism ranging from the government sector, to the job sector, to daily life in general which impedes on the progress of the black community.

Claiming that they are being given "special treatment" while being in a disenfranchised group is a fallacious statement to make.

 

[Onii Chan]

50% of the american people are at the poverty line or under it.

quoted this here so people dont miss the ignorance from this individual

 

[Aim64C]

Here are a few ideas that republicans have to use to help black people, but they require regulations so i doubt it will ever work.

Ah, so you are suggesting that, unlike virtually every other race on the planet, blacks are uniquely incapable of recovering from an oppressed state in the past.

Guarantee bank loans for homes.

So, if I am black and I get a bank loan for a house... and then just decide to **** the man and not pay the loan... the government just pays the debt off? I think it would just be simpler and less hassle to just build all 'qualified' blacks a small mansion and then call it even. Far more honest to the tax payer, too.

Alternatively, a black person could join the military and then be eligible for the VA loan program. Many people already do this. They also learn a thing or two while they are in the military.

Prevent bogus mortgage deals from shady institutions that can basically rip off new homeowners.

It is next to impossible to have a free market economy and not have risk to people. There are already laws on the books regarding loan processes and payments - the thing is that many people do not know them and believe that everything written on something they sign is a completely valid and legal agreement.

Destroy Amazon.

Stand by. That will end up being restructured along with China's trade deals and the like. Amazon has a fun habit of seeing something trend from a domestic store and then buying a shit-ton of stock from a Chinese offering of something similar, and then burying the original. That will come to a stop and actually end up being inverted.

Watch the CEOs.

Make it easier to form a business. Like china easy.

See above.

Get rid of restrictive patents and copyright usage that prevents competition.

Patent mills are on the docket. Though there are a number of things that were developed in secret using public funding that are not eligible for patent that will be coming out soon for people to have a lot of fun with.

Have government backed college degrees for STEM that guarantee jobs.

Unnecessary. It's about to become an employee's market.

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Missouri is getting a new micro-mill from Nucor. Some of the factories around here are seeing a drum-up in business. Look at the shenanigans going on with our governor, where dreams are being used as the basis to launch a prosecution effort. The democrats are absolutely desperate to keep any kind of wealth development from occurring. If this deposit is exploited, the society depicted in the Fallout universe (pre-war) is where we are heading.

Free Healthcare.

Nothing is free. Who is paying, how are they paying, and who is working for that pay?

Reparations??? If they do that, they will have the black population forever.

Oh, good - mind slaves. That sounds like a completely responsible thing to do.

Stop college Sport organizations from taking all money from players (most are black).

Many are also there on sports scholarships. While I agree the relationship is predatory, I must ask, again, if you think black people are uniquely incapable of being taught by their parents to be wary of such things. The whole value of a college education, anymore, must be drawn into question as kids agree to a hundred thousand dollars of debt, or more, to go to school - and then can't get a job that makes use of that degree.

Race and *** should not be mentioned in court proceedings. Jury should be behind a curtain or something. Maybe use a standard for every crime already committed prior.

Why have a jury physically present, at all? Just have transcripts mailed off to random people and then have the verdict come back. Of course... was there really anyone behind the curtain? The guilty will never know.

stop low level drug offenses.

This is more of a general thing. Possession should almost never be a crime in and of itself.

Here is one, create policies that treat black teens like they do rich white children. maybe call it black affluenza

If they are treating the children of wealthy and politically connected people differently, then they are not really following the law in the first place, now are they?

This is a problem every community deals with. Wealthy people, of any race, tend to expect governments and agencies to simply bend to the power of their dollar. They believe that, because they pay a portion of the community's bills through taxes, they are entitled to special privilege. They will leverage that when and where they can. This is the double-edge of property taxes and a focus on taxing businesses rather than sales. When people know they hold a considerable amount of stake in a community, they can and will leverage it. The belief that the wealthy can be taxed into control is a poisoned well.

 

[Aim64C]

"Special treatment" would assume that the black community currently has an equal standing with the average white American, which they don't.

What do you use to define "equal?"
I know black people who are far wealthier than I. I know blacks who drive far better cars than I do and live in better homes than I do.

Do I need something to help me become their equal?

The thing is that equal treatment does not guarantee equal outcomes.

There are plenty of examples of institutional racism ranging from the government sector, to the job sector, to daily life in general which impedes on the progress of the black community.

There aren't any policies that single blacks out, specifically. However, there are some, still on the books in many liberal cities, which seek to exclude based on income and put in place separate requirements for housing districts. These are wrong and should be gotten rid of. Of course, these policies were enacted by democrats during the 1940s and 50s as migrant black workers threatened unions. Prevailing wage laws and other such things were put into place to disadvantage anyone who was not 'an established part of the community' - who, at the time, were blacks. And largely continue to be blacks.

This requires engaging the policies put in place by the democrat party, but - frankly, why would they? Blacks continue to vote for democrats because the democrats are willing to pay for bread and circuses to keep and promise the blacks that one day they will be allowed inside the city, proper if their political opponents are subdued.

Welcome to Detroit. Chicago. Baltimore. etc.

Claiming that they are being given "special treatment" while being in a disenfranchised group is a fallacious statement to make.

At what point do they become responsible for their own outcome?

My parents were both dead by time I was 22. I'm turning 30 this year. Are my problems because my parents died while I was younger? At what point do the unfair events of the past cease being an excuse for my current state in life? I can argue that having my mother suffer through cancer for most of my teenage years and then have both of my parents pass away within three years of each other was far, far more powerful of an impact on my life than -anything- slavery from 150 years ago has to do with blacks, today. I would be laughed out of the room for suggesting I am due some manner of reparations or government guaranteed loans. And rightfully so.

At some point, even though you are not always in control of the things that happen to you, you are still responsible for setting your own course in life. The greatest inequality that has been perpetrated upon the blacks of today is that they have been raised in a culture that glorifies a perpetual state of victimhood where they have been taught a range of defeatist lies that keep them perpetually enslaved to a snake in a government chair who must do something in order for them to be able to succeed. It is this deflection of accountability from the self onto that of a government officials that makes blacks of today even more enslaved to political arbiters than the blacks of 150 years ago were to those who claimed property rights over them.

That is the greatest injustice that has been committed against blacks. It is the greatest injustice that can be committed against any group of people, and think long and hard before suggesting blacks are the only group that have been made slave via this mechanic.

 

[Lightbringer]

What do you use to define "equal?"
I know black people who are far wealthier than I. I know blacks who drive far better cars than I do and live in better homes than I do.

Do I need something to help me become their equal?

The thing is that equal treatment does not guarantee equal outcomes.





There aren't any policies that single blacks out, specifically. However, there are some, still on the books in many liberal cities, which seek to exclude based on income and put in place separate requirements for housing districts. These are wrong and should be gotten rid of. Of course, these policies were enacted by democrats during the 1940s and 50s as migrant black workers threatened unions. Prevailing wage laws and other such things were put into place to disadvantage anyone who was not 'an established part of the community' - who, at the time, were blacks. And largely continue to be blacks.

This requires engaging the policies put in place by the democrat party, but - frankly, why would they? Blacks continue to vote for democrats because the democrats are willing to pay for bread and circuses to keep and promise the blacks that one day they will be allowed inside the city, proper if their political opponents are subdued.

Welcome to Detroit. Chicago. Baltimore. etc.



At what point do they become responsible for their own outcome?

My parents were both dead by time I was 22. I'm turning 30 this year. Are my problems because my parents died while I was younger? At what point do the unfair events of the past cease being an excuse for my current state in life? I can argue that having my mother suffer through cancer for most of my teenage years and then have both of my parents pass away within three years of each other was far, far more powerful of an impact on my life than -anything- slavery from 150 years ago has to do with blacks, today. I would be laughed out of the room for suggesting I am due some manner of reparations or government guaranteed loans. And rightfully so.

At some point, even though you are not always in control of the things that happen to you, you are still responsible for setting your own course in life. The greatest inequality that has been perpetrated upon the blacks of today is that they have been raised in a culture that glorifies a perpetual state of victimhood where they have been taught a range of defeatist lies that keep them perpetually enslaved to a snake in a government chair who must do something in order for them to be able to succeed. It is this deflection of accountability from the self onto that of a government officials that makes blacks of today even more enslaved to political arbiters than the blacks of 150 years ago were to those who claimed property rights over them.

That is the greatest injustice that has been committed against blacks. It is the greatest injustice that can be committed against any group of people, and think long and hard before suggesting blacks are the only group that have been made slave via this mechanic.

1. I'm not reading the wall of text.

2. Thomas Sowell is not a good source when it comes explaining black culture and their socio-economic status as he makes up unsubstantiated claims or doesn't cite the full context of his study he's using. He said things like Obama is the worst president in history which is objectively untrue. He's among the crowd of black people which chose to make a profit at the expense of the black community and then are cited by people as yourself because he's a black man talking against black people.

3. Saying that you know blacks that are rich does not negate the fact that systematic racism exists. There will always be exceptions.

 

[Aim64C]

1. I'm not reading the wall of text.

Of course not. You're a slave. Slaves do what they are told, not take action on their own.

2. Thomas Sowell is not a good source when it comes explaining black culture and their socio-economic status as he makes up unsubstantiated claims or doesn't cite the full context of his study he's using. He said things like Obama is the worst president in history which is objectively untrue. He's among the crowd of black people which chose to make a profit at the expense of the black community and then are cited by people as yourself because he's a black man talking against black people.

This is simple tribalism. If it is more important to you to 'be black' than to be a human being or American - then, frankly, I have absolutely no reason to consider you as being a valid part of society and would prefer a program to deport you to a location of least protest.

There are plenty of people out there, from all races, who have no problem doing the things that people do in order to grow and improve as an individual person, and as a community by proxy. If you are unable to set aside the color of your skin or other ethnic identifiers in order to have a discussion about the issues faced by people within our society - then I must insist you leave for a nation far more suited to your world view.

3. Saying that you know blacks that are rich does not negate the fact that systematic racism exists. There will always be exceptions.

This is a failure to understand the point of the exercise. I know Ukrainians who are wealthier than I. I know Asians who are wealthier than I. Arabs, Indians, etc. The question is a very simple one - do I, as someone who does not identify as part of those groups, need some kind of special treatment in order to achieve the same success?

 

[Lightbringer]

Of course not. You're a slave. Slaves do what they are told, not take action on their own.

So me not choosing to read a wall of text makes me slave doing what I'm told? I'd love to hear how you connected those points and came to that conclusion.

This is simple tribalism. If it is more important to you to 'be black' than to be a human being or American - then, frankly, I have absolutely no reason to consider you as being a valid part of society and would prefer a program to deport you to a location of least protest.

What does "to be black" mean? I'm confused on what you're trying to say here?

There are plenty of people out there, from all races, who have no problem doing the things that people do in order to grow and improve as an individual person, and as a community by proxy. If you are unable to set aside the color of your skin or other ethnic identifiers in order to have a discussion about the issues faced by people within our society - then I must insist you leave for a nation far more suited to your world view.

But you're just straw-manning at this point in order to deny that systematic racism exists, even with all of the evidence that it does. There are exceptions to every rule, that does not mean those exceptions apply to everyone in the community nor does it mean that there aren't any barriers institutionalized in order to make opportunity harder for a certain group.

These barriers make it harder for that group to succeed and produce more successful individuals. So citing that there are a few that are able to break through is not in any way debunking that they faced more obstacles than the average white american.

This is a failure to understand the point of the exercise. I know Ukrainians who are wealthier than I. I know Asians who are wealthier than I. Arabs, Indians, etc. The question is a very simple one - do I, as someone who does not identify as part of those groups, need some kind of special treatment in order to achieve the same success?

You're argument would only make sense if you were citing a statistic that speaks to the majority of those groups, not single individuals that you know.

You're not part of a disenfranchised group and they are.

 

[Aim64C]

So me not choosing to read a wall of text makes me slave doing what I'm told? I'd love to hear how you connected those points and came to that conclusion.

I'll let you ponder over the mystery.

What does "to be black" mean? I'm confused on what you're trying to say here?

Do you believe that people will, upon seeing a person struggle to understand a subject or succeed at a task, stop and help that person? Or, that a fair portion of people will?

If the response to this is "Yes" - then the consequent question is "then why is it important to say that blacks need special treatment to deal with the consequences of slavery or inequities?" If people will naturally invest time and knowledge in each other, then why would we need to make a special annotation that blacks... or non-whites (whatever those are, as Asians, Irish, Slavs, and Indians seem to drift in and out of that group based on the convenience of the argument) are in special need?"

If the response to this is "No" - then the consequent question is "why are you excluding the non-blacks from your policy?"

But you're just straw-manning at this point in order to deny that systematic racism exists, even with all of the evidence that it does. There are exceptions to every rule, that does not mean those exceptions apply to everyone in the community nor does it mean that there aren't any barriers institutionalized in order to make opportunity harder for a certain group.

How do you have any idea what I've said? You've not read it. You probably should, as you will understand I am quite well versed in the problem you describe.

These barriers make it harder for that group to succeed and produce more successful individuals. So citing that there are a few that are able to break through is not in any way debunking that they faced more obstacles than the average white american.

Ah, "The average white American." The one who lives in trailers? The ones next door who live in a small rental house and struggle to get by? The ones in the jail down the street from me? The ones nailing plywood over broken windows and subsisting off of hot dogs and beans?

Which average whites are we talking about? Who is white? The groups involved in that seem to be subject to quantum mechanics and can be both white and non-white depending upon the spin polarity of the argument.

You're argument would only make sense if you were citing a statistic that speaks to the majority of those groups, not single individuals that you know.

Ah, lies, damned lies, and then statistics. By removing people from the argument and then speaking only in terms of abstractions and statistics, we can then gain true insight into how to help the people. Clearly, more reasoned words have never been found. We can even hold arguments where we don't listen to the other side or read what they have to say. All completely reasonable, for we have found the true path to enlightened, cosmic justice of the divine.

You're not part of a disenfranchised group and they are.

Of that, you would be incorrect.

 

[Lightbringer]

I'll let you ponder over the mystery.

And why can't you just clarify what you meant instead of having me assume what you meant?

Do you believe that people will, upon seeing a person struggle to understand a subject or succeed at a task, stop and help that person? Or, that a fair portion of people will?

If the response to this is "Yes" - then the consequent question is "then why is it important to say that blacks need special treatment to deal with the consequences of slavery or inequities?" If people will naturally invest time and knowledge in each other, then why would we need to make a special annotation that blacks... or non-whites (whatever those are, as Asians, Irish, Slavs, and Indians seem to drift in and out of that group based on the convenience of the argument) are in special need?"

If the response to this is "No" - then the consequent question is "why are you excluding the non-blacks from your policy?"

I don't see the point of this question as you're asking me to generalize the unique moral perspective of every individual.

What I can tell you is that there are people in society that actively subvert minority groups, including those in power. And maybe it's not always for a strictly racial hatred reason, but are targeted because of their vulnerability for being in a disenfranchised group.

And then there are people who recognize that this is happening and try to end this discrimination, and part of that comes in forms of things like affirmative action and HUD.

How do you have any idea what I've said? You've not read it. You probably should, as you will understand I am quite well versed in the problem you describe.

Because my reply tackled what you said in this particular quote:

Spoiler

There are plenty of people out there, from all races, who have no problem doing the things that people do in order to grow and improve as an individual person, and as a community by proxy. If you are unable to set aside the color of your skin or other ethnic identifiers in order to have a discussion about the issues faced by people within our society - then I must insist you leave for a nation far more suited to your world view.

Ah, "The average white American." The one who lives in trailers? The ones next door who live in a small rental house and struggle to get by? The ones in the jail down the street from me? The ones nailing plywood over broken windows and subsisting off of hot dogs and beans?

Which average whites are we talking about? Who is white? The groups involved in that seem to be subject to quantum mechanics and can be both white and non-white depending upon the spin polarity of the argument.

Again, this is a straw-man. Your trailer example is only a small percentage of the entire population which grow up in neighborhoods that have more opportunity and better education than minority groups and are part of a race that have overwhelming control in the government and job sector.

Ah, lies, damned lies, and then statistics. By removing people from the argument and then speaking only in terms of abstractions and statistics, we can then gain true insight into how to help the people. Clearly, more reasoned words have never been found. We can even hold arguments where we don't listen to the other side or read what they have to say. All completely reasonable, for we have found the true path to enlightened, cosmic justice of the divine.

I'd rather look at what the data says rather than take someone's unsubstantiated opinion as fact.

Of that, you would be incorrect.

Ok, so what disenfranchised group are you a part of?

 

[Aim64C]

And why can't you just clarify what you meant instead of having me assume what you meant?

Because it amuses me.

I don't see the point of this question as you're asking me to generalize the unique moral perspective of every individual.

What I can tell you is that there are people in society that actively subvert minority groups, including those in power. And maybe it's not always for a strictly racial hatred reason, but are targeted because of their vulnerability for being in a disenfranchised group.

And then there are people who recognize that this is happening and try to end this discrimination, and part of that comes in forms of things like affirmative action and HUD.

Here:



Both of these men are former Progressives/Marxists. You are probably not going to watch, but for those who are watching from the sidelines, you may find this interesting. It is long, but there again, so is this issue and debate.

Because my reply tackled what you said in this particular quote:

No, it didn't. If you wish to be taken seriously, you must be willing to do more than huff your own farts.

Again, this is a straw-man. Your trailer example is only a small percentage of the entire population which grow up in neighborhoods that have more opportunity and better education than minority groups and are part of a race that have overwhelming control in the government and job sector.

By what facts do you base these claims around? You make a number of completely unsubstantiated claims - that this is a small percentage of the "White" population, that they are in control of their local governments, and that these local governments and businesses uniquely advantage them.

I'd rather look at what the data says rather than take someone's unsubstantiated opinion as fact.

You've never once used a fact.

I will give you that I have failed to provide citations and references for data I have provided, but - at the same time, you have also stated that you do not like to read. Facts and figures require reading and analysis. I find the claim you have facts, and that you have done much of any analysis on the issue, extremely suspect.

Ok, so what disenfranchised group are you a part of?

You would learn things if you read.

 

[Team7monaa]

No one gives two shits about decedents of slaves, everyone who was actually a slave is dead now so who even cares about that era anymore? The only people who reference that era anymore are either: Historians, Guilt trippers, or Attention whores. You don't see me going around and yelling in the streets '' how dare this kingdom back in the medieval era kill my family way back when, i deserve retribution and thus more rights than the average man! '' because i'd be in the psych ward before 12.

This post actually makes me sick shut up.

 

[Lightbringer]

Here:



Both of these men are former Progressives/Marxists. You are probably not going to watch, but for those who are watching from the sidelines, you may find this interesting. It is long, but there again, so is this issue and debate.

I already explained to you Thomas Sowell. I don't see how him being a Marxist in the past adds credibility to what he says? He went from a Marxist to a Libertarian. That's not much of an improvement. Both ideologies operate in the realm of fiction. So if anything, him switching to a libertarian detracts from his credibility even more so.

Dave Rubin is among the dumbest commentators and at the height of hypocrisy. An example is that he professes to want to have "discussion" yet in public events, he shuts down questioning and going as far as to edit the question in his channel, or makes excuses to not have certain guests on his show which can genuinely point out the flaws of what he says even though he constantly claims that leftists won't come on his show.

Another example is that he constantly talks about how SJWs and identity politics are a problem, yet in almost every topic, he is the first to bring up identity politics, such as saying that's he's a gay man or that people questioning him with valid points are simply trying to shut the conversation down because they're offended.

And he is known to be funded by the Koch brothers to spread disinformation, such as promoting the continuing use of fossil fuels. He's an opportunist that sold out his values for money. That's it.

What you're doing is simply having a video which sandwiches an argument and because it's so long, it would take me ages to have to go point to point with what they say. That is their tactic.

No, it didn't. If you wish to be taken seriously, you must be willing to do more than huff your own farts.

I didn't realize we were operating in an alternative universe where I have not replied to the specific quote of yours. Whatever.

By what facts do you base these claims around? You make a number of completely unsubstantiated claims - that this is a small percentage of the "White" population, that they are in control of their local governments, and that these local governments and businesses uniquely advantage them.

You've never once used a fact.


I will give you that I have failed to provide citations and references for data I have provided, but - at the same time, you have also stated that you do not like to read. Facts and figures require reading and analysis. I find the claim you have facts, and that you have done much of any analysis on the issue, extremely suspect.

Ok, I'll give you an example, as others have already listed several in this thread. And again, this is just one aspect of an overarching problem.

The consumption rate rate of marijuana between whites and blacks are roughly identical, yet blacks are arrested on a national average of 3.7x more than whites for a crime they both indulge in at the same rate. In some midwestern states, that average can go up being arrest to past 10x more.

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Not only that, but you have recorded audio of police officials talking about how they want to target minorities and testimonies from ex-police officers about the type of culture that goes on in police departments which promote racial discrimination.

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You would learn things if you read.

Or you could just tell me when I ask.

 

[wanderingcactus]

Tough on them how? The Black Community still to this day are being actively discriminated against, from housing, to education, to even crime. I've mentioned this before but the rate of marijuana consumption is roughly identical between whites and blacks, yet blacks are arrest 3.7x more than whites for it. The war on drugs, from the testimony of Nixon officials, was crafted in order to target black people. We still have states that try to suppress their votes and they live in communities where there isn't any sort of investment into jobs. During the Nixon era, Black people were close to being considered a middle-class population up until both Nixon and Reagan started outsourcing jobs to China, specifically from those communities which lead to factories being shut down and the opportunity of money disappearing. So yes, they require assistance.




What's insulting is when people make up excuses for their mistreatment since the foundation of the U.S. and continue to blame the black community for their current socio-economic status.




That's absolutely false. Welfare mostly goes to the disabled, veterans, elderly, and people in a working household. The "welfare queen" caricature is nothing but a myth propagated by Reagan in order to get rid of the welfare program.

According to the Department of Labor statistics, welfare fraud is only prevalent in 2.67% of all cases.





What is special privilege? They live in communities where there is no job growth, schools that get little funding, can't afford healthcare, are discriminated by police, and even now Trump's new budget cuts funding to HUD and a programs which helps poor African Americans roll into college.




What you believe is just your opinion, not the reality.

The few attempts in helping the black community were actually successful and have seen improvement.

@Bold: You mean like the black community?

yes, the black community.
What I was trying to emphasize is that there is societal responsibilities and there are self responsibilities.
Majority of black people being discriminated against is not really from blatant racism. I mean if you carry yourself like a gangsta and say that "it's your culture" and even cast out blacks for being civil as that is not "our way," and that "they are a traitor to their own kind" I'd say that it is not from racism.

I've experienced this and many of my friends have as well first hand. I've seen them be excluded because they held themselves up to standards. They didn't like living the thug life and were proper and they were excluded. Some wanted to be included that they became drug dealers only to die from suicide or a shoot out. So calling this "narrative" a "myth" is insulting to those who actually suffer.

These people are already being discriminated against and others would use that as an excuse to be savage and you think that it is alright? That people just blame black people for everything? Brushing it off as "a story from a racist past"

Like I've already pointed out, the ones that normally cry "racist" are the ones who NEVER experienced it as it were before. They just want to cause shit and never be called out on it and use the victim card.

Remember black lives matter movements a few years back? Do you still think that I am lying about that we need to hold them responsible for their actions? How peaceful protest marches have turned into a city scale arson and looting by blacks? Many of racist propaganda against blacks are made by black people themselves. They do not wish to go above the narrative that they are better than savages. They promote this lifestyle and the rest of the group suffer because of it. Black people are not being treated seriously and yet people having their guards up are instead blamed for being "racist."

As for your statistics, I will not deny that the whites DO get easier sentences, HOWEVER, the blacks DO promote that lifestyle onto themselves. They live in poverty and yet want to keep doing so. I've lived close to these communities and even traveled and helped out in Africa. I've listened and walked side by side with black communities and they are aware of this and they choose or in some instances are forced to live this lifestyle. The other races do not impose this on them but they do it to themselves. "We blacks gotta stick together" is normally what consists of things.

Ever lived in a community where a lot of blacks are portrayed so badly and that the community seem to be racist to them only to find out that it was them who have been doing all of those propaganda? Profane vandalism that promote Nazi values, series of break-ins to destroy their own property and leaving "go home to africa" then crying out racism?

Like I said man, if you truly believe that racism is just because of the whites, you are living in a fairy tale.
Majority of the black community problems start with them. If they truly want to, they can get out of that state. But not by being dependent of programs. It is how you can control a populace. By putting them into "projects" and guess what? It still works. It works so well that they actually see it as their culture. It is disgusting.

I am well aware of the injustices that they suffer from the other races hands, but are you aware of their actions? That most of them are done because of their actions? Majority of the whole "we were kicked out because we're black" consist of prior engagement that was not recorded. Only the act of being kicked out is.

So I'd like you to look up BLM peaceful protest riots and looting. Watch the entire Dove commercial THEN look up the racist propaganda that the blacks made from said commercial. Look at how the blacks reacted to that one black kid who modeled a T-shirt "coolest monkey in the jungle" by H&M and how they trashed several stores. They look for reasons to act out and if they cannot find em, they create them.

You need to understand that THEY are ALSO part of the problem. I hate this deflection narrative where both sides do not acknowledge each other. Yes blacks are mistreated by the fact that others are treated more leniently in terms of crimes. But other races do not promote a crime or notorious lifestyle onto themselves.

Do not mistake me as only putting the blame on the blacks. I am only saying what others don't want to say. Like I said, THEY acknowledge this problem. They just don't want to lose the victim card. Why would they? It gives them power over others. Even if at the cost of their own.

 

[Onii Chan]

This post actually makes me sick shut up.

you sound like you have pink hair and carry a total of 300 pounds of pure fat

 

[Goetia]

you sound like you have pink hair and carry a total of 300 pounds of pure fat

Haha wow you really showed that SJW snowflake who's boss by being completely ignorant to sensitive topics that require genuine intelligence and critical thought to talk about on a mature level xDdDdDDddD

Fuck off outta here.

 

[PT1990]

To explain the they can’t be racist bit. Racism is discrimination that assumes you can use your power to exploit another group. It’s not just calling someone cracker. Black people cant deny whites a job. Stop them from getting a loan. Arresting them and charging them more severely. You need power to be a racist. Black people dont have that.

Im sorry, but this is one of the most ridiculous pieces of bullshit that Ive ever read. If a black dude hates a white dude just for being white then hes a racist. Period. Everyone can be a racist, their skin colour does not matter.