Sasuke CAN'T replicate his strongest attack... Naruto CAN

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Do you see that Naruto didnt actually got hit by that but only by its radius? and what does that have to do with technique? I just proved that Sasuke chidori was equal to TBB

only its radius?

lol it fell down vertically and you can see via the saturation of the core column and the outer lighter layer that Naruto is literally in the middle of that

let alone afterwards you see him fall down into space as he falls in the middle of the hole


Plus later he literally tanks a Moon splitting chakra sword so...


Moon or little Meteorite?
 
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only its radius?

lol it fell down vertically and you can see via the saturation of the core column and the outer lighter layer that Naruto is literally in the middle of that

let alone afterwards you see him fall down into space as he falls in the middle of the hole


Plus later he literally tanks a Moon splitting chakra sword so...


Moon or little Meteorite?

Melanin was right about you , you sure lack logic. I was just talking that Sasuke's Chidori was equal to TBB explosion. What does my first post have to do anything here, but here it comes again, you bring up this tanking. So, Naruto was able to tank all this even the jutsu that cutted moon on half , but he wasnt able to tank a simple sword back in Gaiden Manga?
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Melanin was right about you , you sure lack logic. I was just talking that Sasuke's Chidori was equal to TBB explosion. What does my first post have to do anything here, but here it comes again, you bring up this tanking. So, Naruto was able to tank all this even the jutsu that cutted moon on half , but he wasnt able to tank a simple sword back in Gaiden Manga?
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lol I gave you literal attacks that Naruto took on

He even took on

I mean Goku can tank so many things but an unaware Goku literally almost died due to this

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So an unsuspecting Naruto getting stabbed isn't out of the equation as Kuruma even stated he was rusty, as well as Naruto later stated he would be fine and did not need any medical attention

Now compare that getting hit

lol stop being emotionally salty and actually take the evidence at face value
 
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lol I gave you literal attacks that Naruto took on

He even took on

I mean Goku can tank so many things but an unaware Goku literally almost died due to this


So an unexpecting Naruto getting stabbed isn't out of the equation as Kuruma even stated he was rusty, as well as Naruto later stated he would be fine and did not need any medical attention

lol stop being emotionally salty and actually take the evidence at face value

Im talking about the techniques and saying that Sasuke's chidori that blasted away that meteor was equal to TBB in raw power but you are bringing me this tanking stuff? :lmao::wut:

@Naruto tanking that blast from momoshiki he still had Kurama's avatar protecting him, while when he tanked the jutsu that cutted the moon in half it didnt? - That logic
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Goku is able to tank a lot of things but there are jutsu that can cut u in half no matter how strong you are like Krilin technique or Piccolo blast - just like it cutted Freeze back in DBZ - even if he was strong enough to tank all other blasts there are some techniques that are not able to tank
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Im talking about the techniques and saying that Sasuke's chidori that blasted away that meteor was equal to TBB in raw power but you are bringing me this tanking stuff? :lmao::wut:

@Naruto tanking that blast from momoshiki he still had Kurama's avatar protecting him, while when he tanked the jutsu that cutted the moon in half it didnt? - That logic
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Goku is able to tank a lot of things but there are jutsu that can cut u in half no matter how strong you are like Krilin technique or Piccolo blast - just like it cutted Freeze back in DBZ - even if he was strong enough to tank all other blasts there are some techniques that are able to tank
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and I am talking about other stuff entirely

my reply to you is about tanking and not how powerful Sasuke's chidori is


Indra's Arrow is more powerful then any TBB anyway
 
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and I am talking about other stuff entirely

my reply to you is about tanking and not how powerful Sasuke's chidori is


Indra's Arrow is more powerful then any TBB anyway

I brought the scan of Sasuke's Chidori and TBB blast but you started bringing me facts about tanking can you explain me that?
 

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lol

a) you stated this
I would like to see Naruto do something in his base without his pet


so I replied to it about Naruto and his base that you try and downsize


then you replied with this
Do you see that Naruto didnt actually got hit by that but only by its radius? and what does that have to do with technique? I just proved that Sasuke chidori was equal to TBB


then I replied back debunking that


then you try and toss me into your prior argument that I wasn't even debating about because you clearly lost


nowhere was I talking about Sasuke's chidori not being as strong or less stronger then a TBB

that is just you trying to toss me into another argument for no reason
 
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and you still answer my question how was Naruto able to tank all that but JJ Madara wasnt able to tank a simple sword stab, even if his power was greater then Naruto and had Juubi as Jin
 
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lol

a) you stated this


so I replied to it about Naruto and his base that you try and downsize


then you replied with this



then I replied back debunking that


then you try and toss me into your prior argument that I wasn't even debating about because you clearly lost

No, i stated i would like to see Naruto do that kind of jutsu and equal the Chidori or TBB blast in his base form, but every time he does something he is using Kurama's power.
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I didnt lost anything, when you bring me a simple scan of Naruto base without Kurama's help and power do something just like Sasuke did and blasting away the Meteor then i will admit my lost

and you actually tossed me into your argument but thats alright
 

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and you still answer my question how was Naruto able to tank all that but JJ Madara wasnt able to tank a simple sword stab, even if his power was greater then Naruto and had Juubi as Jin

did he tank those attacks I presented

yes or no?


Again now you just admitted that my reply wasn't about Sasuke's Chidori as you tried to spin me into


No, i stated i would like to see Naruto do that kind of jutsu and equal the Chidori or TBB blast in his base form, but every time he does something he is using Kurama's power.
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I didnt lost anything, when you bring me a simple scan of Naruto base without Kurama's help and power do something just like Sasuke did and blasting away the Meteor then i will admit my lost

so instead of replying to me about tanking you should've addressed the misunderstanding

to which I would've argued about Itachi's eyes and other things

but instead you replied saying this

Do you see that Naruto didnt actually got hit by that but only by its radius? and what does that have to do with technique? I just proved that Sasuke chidori was equal to TBB

trying to debunk the tank
 
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did he tank those attacks I presented

yes or no?


Again now you just admitted that my reply wasn't about Sasuke's Chidori as you tried to spin me into

What exactly are you talking about?

All im trying to say that Naruto was able to tank cut moon cutter jutsu but wasnt able to tank a simple sword back in the gaiden - and he even tanked Sasuke's chidori back in the vote 2 - While Madara who was so much powerful then Naruto also wasnt able to tank a simple sword when Sasuke used Amenotejikara and teleport it




so instead of replying to me about tanking you should've addressed the misunderstanding

to which I would've argued about Itachi's eyes and other things

but instead you replied saying this



trying to debunk the tank

Im trying to debunk everything you wrote , im just trying to wake up some senses in your logic head and see that none of this actually make sense - all this tanking and stuff

And where is that scan of base Naruto doing the jutsu equal to that Chidori?
 

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What exactly are you talking about?

All im trying to say that Naruto was able to tank cut moon cutter jutsu but wasnt able to tank a simple sword back in the gaiden - and he even tanked Sasuke's chidori back in the vote 2 - While Madara who was so much powerful then Naruto also wasnt able to tank a simple sword when Sasuke used Amenotejikara and teleport it






Im trying to debunk everything you wrote , im just trying to wake up some senses in your logic head and see that none of this actually make sense - all this tanking and stuff

And where is that scan of base Naruto doing the jutsu equal to that Chidori?

lol and did I start and argument like that

NO, again you seem to be fixated in an argument that I wasn't even talking about


my posts were about tanking and as I stated an unaware or rusty person that can tank crazy feats can easily fail and get hurt when unpreparred

like Sasuke bleeding from Shin's skewers being pierced in his back


you can go and find someone else to talk about powerful moves as we already stated in the OP


Sasuke can't do Indra's arrow as easily as he did in VOTE 2
 

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Even if Naruto was rusty Naruto was in BM still. BM enhances physical stats like crazy. Yet Naruto was pierced by Sasuke Sword. This feat stands to proof that Sasuke can wiped Naruto out of that map anytime Sasuke feels like it.
 

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I’m saying that Naruto has his chakra and Kurama has his, the reason why naruto’s chakra is so vast is because he has 9 biju chakra inside of him including his own. And during VoTe Kurama specifically said that Naruto’s own chakra was already done since the war (meaning before Kaguya) so this whole time he’s been using biju chakra. Naruto’s strongest technique was kurama’s six path senjutsu chakra is what I was trying to say.

As for Sasuke’s limitations on how much he can use the portals has never been specified. All we know is that he travelled kaguya’s dimensions to find intel and that Kaguya has 6-7 dimensions in total. To make a speculation that he can only use the portal jutsu any less is also an opinion as well.
So I was just giving him the benefit of the doubt.

Same can be said vice versa but I’m gonna use my sense here and deny the waiting period because of Kaguya’s hazardous dimensions. The only one that is safe is the ice dimensions because Sasuke has Amatersu/Flame control.

In no means did I suggest that so I have no idea on what you’re talking about, and limiting a jutsu to 6/8 times is no means a “spammable” jutsu because it’s a limited number. The manga never said that it requires monstrous amounts of chakra either, that’s just some futile fanfic that you just suggested now.
You don’t have evidence of Sasuke needing a gracing period in between 6-7 dimensional jumps so it’s hard to argue.

That’s because Kaguya was using Ash bones and two different dimensional travels at the same time. She was spamming them too. It’s not like she ran out of chakra entirely, she still continued to use her dimensional powers even after that.

Bro, what are you talking about? You didn't even counter what I'm saying. For whatever reason you're talking about Naruto's chakra when that isn't even what we're discussing. I've countered you on your point and you haven't countered mine, you're just dodging it and trying to argue a new and irrelevant point to the original discussion.

No, it isn't an opinion. Sasuke couldn't transport everyone to the Momoshiki dimension and limited himself to a set number of people in one portal opening. He's specified that it's extremely taxing on him, this is not an opinion. You're making the claim that he can essentially use it 6-7 times, so the burden of proof is on you to prove something the manga argues strongly against.

Oh, the manga never suggested that the portal uses up a lot of chakra? If you won't believe me then believe Sasuke

Black Zetsu also said it's chakra taxing on Kaguya. If you want to challenge this, I'll find the scan for you.

I don't need evidence. The burden of proof is on you as like I said, the manga specified that it's taxing on the damn progenitor of chakra, Kaguya. Sasuke admitted it's taxing himself and it was further shown when he was capped to a teleporting limit. You're using something as evidence when we do not know the circumstances surrounding it, therein lies my problem with your unsubstantiated proposition.

That isn't the point. The point is that someone with infinite chakra was experiencing fatigue from a jutsu that she created. This jutsu is not Sasuke's, nor was it made for someone like him to handle. That is the difference.


Please RT, if you're gonna keep changing the subject and dance around my counters without actually countering, save it.
 

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Everything in this thread proves that NV's earth would have a hole that extends from one side, through the core, and out the next side if Sakura used ces to throw Sasuke's sword at it.
 

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Well that was Sasuke with no experience with Rinnegan, now he might absorb those attack or just teleport away.
 

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Still Naruto vs Sasuke debates even though they've been stated to be equal multiple times.



Imagining Naruto is stronger doesn't change this.

Sasuke's attack was entirely fuelled by the Bijuu's chakra, which is a one off occurance.

Him being new to the Rinnegan vs Naruto was a one time occurrence aswell, and if he only used the Biju's chakra for it, then why would he have been out of chakra afterward when he should still have his own reserves?

Saying Sasuke only used the Biju for IA is like saying Naruto only used NE for his attack.

Naruto's attack was simply Kurama gathering all the nature energy, which he can replicate whenever he damn pleases.

Ignoring that it takes time to gather NE.

Basically, if that fight were to happen again Sasuke's severely outmatched when it comes to firepower. If Naruto releases that attack on him again he gets vaporized. No Bijuu to supercharge his Indra's arrow this time.

We have never seen an Adult Assume and Adult Naruto go all out yet you're speaking as if you know his limits. What we do know is that the creator who knows their full capabilities said they were equal multiple times.

An example of your flawed assumption is this - War arc Sasuke went from only being able to teleport short distances 3 times before his cool down, to opening portals and crossing dimensions as Adults. Something that was even taxing to Juubi Jin Shinju Kaguya.





According to your power growth estimations, Sasuke shouldn't have progressed this far.

If anything, this is an even greater feat than IA, which was formed through 17 year old Sasuke's + small portions of the Biju's chakra. Adult Sasuke can repeatedly do something that was even taxing too Juubi Jin Shinju Kaguya.

His chakra level is far superior to before. Quality>Quantity by the way.
 

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Everything in this thread proves that NV's earth would have a hole that extends from one side, through the core, and out the next side if Sakura used ces to throw Sasuke's sword at it.

What in the ****.
 

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I had this argument 3-4 years ago and still seeing 70% of the same people arguing about it. Naruto and KISHIMOTO himself said Sasuke and Naruto are equal 13-15 years AFTER VOTE 2.. HOW? Two simple reasons:
1. Sasuke gotten a lot stronger
2. Naruto gotten a lot weaker...

Choose wisely!

Aren't both bad for Sasuke. They insinuate Naruto either remained stagnant and Sasuke trained to catch up...or Naruto greatly weakened to a level Sasuke still had to catch up to.

So, then what happens if Naruto starts training too? or recollects Bijuu Chakra, for those who thing he lost RSM.:kk:
 
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