Madara and Hashirama vs the Otsutsukis

[Oblivionx]

please tell this to Uverdore9 because he's using fanfic to say that this is false.

He is master at fanfic. Can't be helped.

 

[Uverdore9]

The Juubi nuke did destroy a nation with a single blast:

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And that very same nuke is the very same one from that that hype quote that you keep on repeating:

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Like I said before, don't go around stringing a bunches of words together making incoherent sentences without a complete topic. You need to make proper sense and you need to work on the following issues...

1. Actually read don't skim more importantly READ the manga instead of other people's theories
2. Stay on topic
3. Use a manga page to back up your claim, your opinions do not matter without proof
4. Make sense

Please stop with the fanfics. City is not equal to country. You know what a country is? Country is Land of fire, land of wind, land of water etc cera. Theyre the five nations which rule Narutoverse. So wrong. You cant use destructive power as a proper calculation of destructive power. By your logic Gai eighth gate did not create a big nuke despite bending space and smashing Juubidara who is strongest guy at that time yet not one of those Bijuu Bombs could deal any sort of damage to him. So stop this fanfafic. Stop using the same terrible logic over over again.

-Kurama mode was not restrained by Gedo chains
-You need to understand that the biju damas did destroy the artifacts of the buddha otherwise Susano'o would've been completely destroyed and Madara would've died. You saying that the biju bombs didn't destroy the arms is basically saying that Madara didn't have to use the biju bombs at all.
-Deflecting a biju bomb has nothing to do with chakra properties, Fact. Susanoo did not become a bijus jinchuuriki, that's just stupid fanfic. Fact.

Since you couldn't provide a single manga scan at all that means you conceded. I win once again and a big L for you.

Whyre you always misinterpretating my statements? When did I say Yang property of Kurama led to deflection of ball damas? Yang kurama is one half of kurama I brought it up to clear this big ass misconception that Kurama half cannot be greater than 8 bijuu which it proved itself to be. Your point on Hachibi is moot when Gai and Kakashi was surprised by the deflection which they wouldnt be if transformed Hachibi can do it. Buddha never got destroyed Madara never knew Hashirama can use Senjutsu chakra as he has never used it before only base Mokuton. Madara statement that 'We've not fought for a long time so you're surprised as I've grown stronger huh....' proves they both improved after a hiatus. Which SusanoO are you even talking about the inner or outer armour? Stop using this weird logic when we know SusanoO cannot be shape manipulated.

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This Susanoo cannot be transformed in terms of shape. Please understand this before we move on. An outer armour is created in V4 state which is what can be merged with Kyuubi in its solid form(not chakra form like Naruto used in conjunction with Sasuke against Juubito).
- Stop using fallacy logic over and over to somehow argue facts established. Naruto KCM got caught by Gedo's chains and Eight tails said it was stronger than Nagato's rods.

Fallacious useless fanfic without a single manga for proof. No manga means you're wrong, therefore you conceded. I win again.

@Bold part is the dumbest thing you said up to date considering the fact that Hashirama literally said that Madara wrapped around Susanoo like an armour:

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You honestly don't know how to read.

Viz fucked up again. I've read this part, researched it thoroughly, to come to a reasonable conclusion. Which is what I have been telling you for the trillionth time. Japanese words 'Susanoo no yoroi' meaning Susanoo's armour. The inner part of that armour which is The Real Susanoo cannot be cast off after extracting just the armor: they come in a box together so the inner one mergified with Kyuubi while the outer one covered the outer layer of Kyuubi's body. Stop arguing against fact just to spout this fanfical explanatories. :lol.

 

[Rikudou Tobi]

Please stop with the fanfics. City is not equal to country. You know what a country is? Country is Land of fire, land of wind, land of water etc cera. Theyre the five nations which rule Narutoverse. So wrong. You cant use destructive power as a proper calculation of destructive power. By your logic Gai eighth gate did not create a big nuke despite bending space and smashing Juubidara who is strongest guy at that time yet not one of those Bijuu Bombs could deal any sort of damage to him. So stop this fanfafic. Stop using the same terrible logic over over again.

Are you senile? :lol The Juubi nuke was sent off to a far ocean and the juubi nuke vaporized the body of water along with the nearby city along with it. That nuke was so big that it surpassed the clouds, so what are you talking about? XD
@Bold: :lol what the hell are you rambling on about? What does Gai have to do with this? This doesn't even make sense, you're going off on a whole other topic right now and these are the things I specifically told you to avoid.

Whyre you always misinterpretating my statements? When did I say Yang property of Kurama led to deflection of ball damas? Yang kurama is one half of kurama I brought it up to clear this big ass misconception that Kurama half cannot be greater than 8 bijuu which it proved itself to be.

This right here is a big ass fanfic stupid assumption because half of kurama has never faces against 8 biju powers. It got it's ass kicked by 7 alone so you look stupid right now. Not even the half of the juubi's chakra is greater than 8 bijus.

Your point on Hachibi is moot when Gai and Kakashi was surprised by the deflection which they wouldnt be if transformed Hachibi can do it.

Incoherent. Gai and Kakashi were ready to get rid of the biju bombs and their chakra had nothing to compare to Hachibi or Kurama.

Buddha never got destroyed Madara never knew Hashirama can use Senjutsu chakra as he has never used it before only base Mokuton. Madara statement that 'We've not fought for a long time so you're surprised as I've grown stronger huh....' proves they both improved after a hiatus.

Except the Kanon did get destroyed because Hashirama fought without it in the end

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The rest is incoherent rubbsih.

Which SusanoO are you even talking about the inner or outer armour? Stop using this weird logic when we know SusanoO cannot be shape manipulated.

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You're using a videogame as a counter argument to this fanfic "inner susuanoo?" :|

This Susanoo cannot be transformed in terms of shape. Please understand this before we move on. An outer armour is created in V4 state which is what can be merged with Kyuubi in its solid form(not chakra form like Naruto used in conjunction with Sasuke against Juubito).

Drop the stupid fanfic and move on away from this fanfic outer and inner susanoo business. Susanoo is susanoo end of story. There is no merging going on so stfu with that rubbish already.

- Stop using fallacy logic over and over to somehow argue facts established. Naruto KCM got caught by Gedo's chains and Eight tails said it was stronger than Nagato's rods.

Kurama mode is not kcm naruto dummy. Kurama mode is BM/BSM Naruto fully transformed.

Viz fucked up again. I've read this part, researched it thoroughly, to come to a reasonable conclusion. Which is what I have been telling you for the trillionth time. Japanese words 'Susanoo no yoroi' meaning Susanoo's armour. The inner part of that armour which is The Real Susanoo cannot be cast off after extracting just the armor: they come in a box together so the inner one mergified with Kyuubi while the outer one covered the outer layer of Kyuubi's body. Stop arguing against fact just to spout this fanfical explanatories. :lol.

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[Rikudou Tobi]

He is master at fanfic. Can't be helped.

Bro you're right. Just look at what I just red up above. XD

 

[Uverdore9]

Are you senile? :lol The Juubi nuke was sent off to a far ocean and the juubi nuke vaporized the body of water along with the nearby city along with it. That nuke was so big that it surpassed the clouds, so what are you talking about? XD
@Bold: :lol what the hell are you rambling on about? What does Gai have to do with this? This doesn't even make sense, you're going off on a whole other topic right now and these are the things I specifically told you to avoid.

It is to prove the fact we've to use our IQ to split feats. Nukes arent be all end all. Just because it didnt create a nuke doesnt mean it isnt more powerful than something which created a nuke. Are you saying a single bijuu bomb is stronger than eight gate dragon shot?:lol. We can drop the IQ less fanfic here before we move on to intellectual scaling.

This right here is a big ass fanfic stupid assumption because half of kurama has never faces against 8 biju powers. It got it's ass kicked by 7 alone so you look stupid right now. Not even the half of the juubi's chakra is greater than 8 bijus.

Still gives us an idea of how powerful a Tail of Kurama must be to deflect all 7 bijuus power at same time with zero effort. Stop acting like Naruto had to face Obito with Gedo chains at the same time to fight Biju.

- This doesnt make sense. Just because Kakashi and Gai didnt see Hachibi power doesnt make thier statement false. Statemsnts are never false because Kishimoto words can only disaproven by kishimoto words. Nothing there to disaprove hence Hachibi cant do what Kyuubi did. Drop the fanfic before we move on. :lol.

Incoherent. Gai and Kakashi were ready to get rid of the biju bombs and their chakra had nothing to compare to Hachibi or Kurama.

Addressed.

Except the Kanon did get destroyed because Hashirama fought without it in the end

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The rest is incoherent rubbsih.

You're using a videogame as a counter argument to this fanfic "inner susuanoo?" :|

We dont know what happened plus there is the fact Hashirama couldnt have summoned it again.
- The SusanoO which is V2 and V3 are the main body. The outer armour covering in V4 + a special technique of Madara creates magic garb. SusanoO merged end of story.

Drop the stupid fanfic and move on away from this fanfic outer and inner susanoo business. Susanoo is susanoo end of story. There is no merging going on so stfu with that rubbish already.

Stop with IQless fanfic's they have two types the armor covering susanoo and the skeleton and tendons and flesh. Get that through before we continue.

Kurama mode is not kcm naruto dummy. Kurama mode is BM/BSM Naruto fully transformed.

Still Kurama mode and its a fact he got restrained.

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Fanfic over fanfic. Just accept fact man :lol.