reasons Koji isn't Jiraiya.

[Mellanoma]

Jiraiya was 54 when he died.

Naruto is now 32-33 meaning Jiraiya would be 69-70 which Koji clearly isn't 70 in his image.

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Also if you notice...

There are a couple more signatures on the toad scroll:

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This would indicate that Koji Kashin has already signed the scroll.


More likely they could be related (Father/Son) but who knows.

Thoughts?

 

[Reboryushon]

It doesn't matter what happened or how things worked, Kodachi will find a way to retcon it. Forget logic. On the other hand, i can see KK being a character called Mizuki.

 

[Onii Chan]

lol i like how you clearly took this idea from a youtuber and copied everything he said and made this thread as if you thought of it yourself.

 

[Mellanoma]

lol i like how you clearly took this idea from a youtuber and copied everything he said and made this thread as if you thought of it yourself.

Incorrect, I actually did think of this on my own in reference to another thread about someone stating it was Jiraiya. Anyone with half a brain and knows the manga would know what to look for concerning proof that he is or isn't jiraiya.


Only proof is facial similarities and toad summons so naturally you would use reasoning based off those two facts.

Age and Toad contract....

How old would jiraiya be? How old does Koji look?
Koji summons toads? Was it on the contract?

Really simple.

Only thing i cant answer are the names on the contract.

 

[Onii Chan]

Incorrect, I actually did think of this on my own in reference to another thread about someone stating it was Jiraiya. Anyone with half a brain and knows the manga would know what to look for concerning proof that he is or isn't jiraiya.


Only proof is facial similarities and toad summons so naturally you would use reasoning based off those two facts.

Age and Toad contract....

How old would jiraiya be? How old does Koji look?
Koji summons toads? Was it on the contract?

Really simple.

Only thing i cant answer are the names on the contract.

regardless if you thought of it or not his got a mask on, how in the hell are you gonna say how old he is? makes no sense. If hokage hiruzen had the same mask on he'd look EXACTLY like koji, the only way you know his old is because of his eye sockets being drawn as wrinkled.

 

[Reviewing Logic]

the lore for his flames talk about using it for longevity in life

Kodachi can literally do anything with this, even have him as immortal and not human anymore

plus KK's toads seems different, like if they are from the dark side of the pond... I mean would the frog hermits allow someone to have self exploding toads that take their lives away?

 

[UnderTheRedHood]

They kinda look similar to this picture or perhaps they could've clone him, and we still dont know nothing about Kara members or KK - but he was able to summon a toad and do Rasengan

Another add - KK pretty much knows about Konoha, Boruto,Naruto and even Konohamaru

 

[Umari Senju]

Yeah there are a number of theories floating around that he is Jiraiya’s bastard son. I could see this. Jiraiya travelled the world and was always hitting up bathhouses and establishments filled with beautiful young women. Wouldn’t surprise me if he had an illegitimate son on the side during his travels.

 

[salamander uchiha]

Yeah there are a number of theories floating around that he is Jiraiya’s bastard son. I could see this. Jiraiya travelled the world and was always hitting up bathhouses and establishments filled with beautiful young women. Wouldn’t surprise me if he had an illegitimate son on the side during his travels.

Yeah but the problem with that is how dod KK learb Rasengan, fuinn jutsu and Toad summoning. Also KK is the supposedly the thoroughbred of the ninja world, a badtard wouldn't fit the bill. Although with Kodachi's sub standard writing anything's possible especially it being Jiraiaya.

 

[Umari Senju]

Yeah but the problem with that is how dod KK learb Rasengan, fuinn jutsu and Toad summoning. Also KK is the supposedly the thoroughbred of the ninja world, a badtard wouldn't fit the bill. Although with Kodachi's sub standard writing anything's possible especially it being Jiraiaya.

Well you have a point there. But like you stated knowing kodachi he could easily butcher the timeline and say Jiraiya taught it to him and then bailed for whatever reason (like the ninja war) all the while never mentioning to anyone even once that he had a son.

The retcon is real