Black actress as Starfire

[Multiply]

yeah this stuff like this is what irks me.

We might as well start hiring blacks to portray Hitler while we are at it just to appease insane people. Of course they cry out "integration!" yet when it comes to their own stuff, they wish to be segregated.

Just take a look at their whining about the Oscars "It's 90% white" then they have a BET awards XD They want everyone's but they don't want others having theirs. Where have I heard of that mentality before?

Oh yeah... white supremacists.

OT:

I don't think she looks the part.

Any female can play Starfire as she is an alien.

Although a redhead would be far easier as Starfire is a redhead with green eyes.
Just need to get her the Floridian spray tan and you get yourself a Starfire.

Also having a pausing accent would be a nice touch.

This gal though, or at least her design is not cutting it. Get Hallie Barry to do it, if you want a black chick lmao!

Pretty sure neither of these shows are real. They're fiction. The person who portrays them literally doesn't matter.

 

[Aim64C]

You're a narcissist.And so manipulative of information. You misuse information in order to control the masses. It comes across as fear based, to me.

What masses do I control?
It should be rather concerning that anyone who stands up and says: "Uh... what?" to this stuff is hit with a range of slander and labels from an impassioned group of hit men.

And your response is incredibly an exaggeration. I deal with people like you, on a regular basis. We all know you just use information to control people, not to inform them.

Exaggeration? You're trying to make the argument that a black person is 'orange.'
Are you sure you want to continue with the idea that I am the one exaggerating?
If you really have dealt with the likes of me, it is rather obvious that you, also, fail on a regular basis.

I have the freedom of saying or feeling however I want. And as in "barriers" I'm simply speaking in regards to acceptable things, such as "dark skinned" females playing more larger roles in action-hero movies. And I'm not talking about black panther. People do show prejudice when it comes to darker skin.

News flash... everyone else has a freedom to feel how they want, too.
It's a simple question - why do dark-skinned females need to be cast into action movie roles with existing character profiles? Why not a black chick in a Transformers movie or one of the countless other action based movies where the casting has a much more open image?

That's also, too bad. Let's say Black Panther were cast as a white person. Would this be a problem for you? If the barrier is racism and racial discrimination - why couldn't the Black Panther be White? Or a Latino? Or a black person who fails to disappear when the lights are turned off?

You're PREJUDICE.You look ridiculous using all this information just to prove your point, in fact, you look inferior. You have an insecurity.

Which all means you have absolutely no evidence to your point. We've already worn you down to personal insults and attacks, which will simply not work on me, as I have absolutely no desire to fit in with this perversion of society and humanity you have constructed for yourself.

It is completely sick and demented that a group of people believe the way to break down barriers, which they constructed in the first place, is to take established characters and icons and then try to project them as something else. This is not only an assault upon the people who embraced the icon, prior - but it is a slander against the people being projected through the icon, as well.

What these writers are saying, in a very underhanded way, is that the only way for black people to make it into movies is to hijack the legacy of an existing character or idea. They are not capable of creating their own characters or of being unique characters with a value and place in a series.

I'm not even sure what you're babbling on about, what I'm saying makes sense. It's as simple as that...the wild banter of reverse psychology is totally unnecessary.And I'm not impressed or interested.

No - what makes sense is: "We liked this actress and her passion for the character. We felt she would better capture the essence of StarFire than the other actresses who applied."

What does not make sense is: "We need a black actress for StarFire because barriers need to be broken." In other words: "It didn't matter who applied for the position, we picked someone to create controversy because movies are a platform to manipulate the masses into what we declare to be a superior moral reasoning."

See who is manipulating things to control the masses? You're not exactly able to fool me, kiddo.

 

[Dreckerplayer]

yeah this stuff like this is what irks me.

We might as well start hiring blacks to portray Hitler while we are at it just to appease insane people. Of course they cry out "integration!" yet when it comes to their own stuff, they wish to be segregated.

You see, this is why I cannot stand people who act like you. Jesus christ.

Hitler, is an actual person, and can only be portrayed by someone who is reminiscent of him.Otherwise, we wouldn't be as convinced of his character. Who, on this entire earth, is natural oranged skin, with green eyes?Who...what an odd comparison you've made of completely two different situations.

Just take a look at their whining about the Oscars "It's 90% white" then they have a BET awards XD They want everyone's but they don't want others having theirs. Where have I heard of that mentality before?

Oscars don't belong to "white people", simply dominated by the majority. And BET is a t.v station, for black entertainment,BET Awards is also for black entertainers, cause they won't be given a fair chance on any other platform.

Oh yeah... white supremacists.

You're still guilt-tripping about that?Move on.

OT:

I don't think she looks the part.

Any female can play Starfire as she is an alien.

Although a redhead would be far easier as Starfire is a redhead with green eyes.
Just need to get her the Floridian spray tan and you get yourself a Starfire.

Also having a pausing accent would be a nice touch.

This gal though, or at least her design is not cutting it. Get Hallie Barry to do it, if you want a black chick lmao!

"Get Halle berry to do it"...so cliche.

And she's biracial and she's not young enough, to convince anyone.

 

[Dreckerplayer]

What masses do I control?
It should be rather concerning that anyone who stands up and says: "Uh... what?" to this stuff is hit with a range of slander and labels from an impassioned group of hit men.



Exaggeration? You're trying to make the argument that a black person is 'orange.'
Are you sure you want to continue with the idea that I am the one exaggerating?
If you really have dealt with the likes of me, it is rather obvious that you, also, fail on a regular basis.



News flash... everyone else has a freedom to feel how they want, too.
It's a simple question - why do dark-skinned females need to be cast into action movie roles with existing character profiles? Why not a black chick in a Transformers movie or one of the countless other action based movies where the casting has a much more open image?

That's also, too bad. Let's say Black Panther were cast as a white person. Would this be a problem for you? If the barrier is racism and racial discrimination - why couldn't the Black Panther be White? Or a Latino? Or a black person who fails to disappear when the lights are turned off?



Which all means you have absolutely no evidence to your point. We've already worn you down to personal insults and attacks, which will simply not work on me, as I have absolutely no desire to fit in with this perversion of society and humanity you have constructed for yourself.

It is completely sick and demented that a group of people believe the way to break down barriers, which they constructed in the first place, is to take established characters and icons and then try to project them as something else. This is not only an assault upon the people who embraced the icon, prior - but it is a slander against the people being projected through the icon, as well.

What these writers are saying, in a very underhanded way, is that the only way for black people to make it into movies is to hijack the legacy of an existing character or idea. They are not capable of creating their own characters or of being unique characters with a value and place in a series.



No - what makes sense is: "We liked this actress and her passion for the character. We felt she would better capture the essence of StarFire than the other actresses who applied."

What does not make sense is: "We need a black actress for StarFire because barriers need to be broken." In other words: "It didn't matter who applied for the position, we picked someone to create controversy because movies are a platform to manipulate the masses into what we declare to be a superior moral reasoning."

See who is manipulating things to control the masses? You're not exactly able to fool me, kiddo.

I'm not convinced of you, just to let you know...

I'm well aware that you use links and quote information from articles, because you think it further backs up your point. It's sort of a "stereotype", thinking that doing that automatically validates your point of view.No, it makes you a con artist and set up.

You use these links and quotes to defend your point of view, because you can't think for yourself, and your point of view cannot stand on it's own, you have an insecurity, like I said. Where's your natural intelligence?You have none.

You bringing up these quotes and links, just look like pure psychology...to at least give the impression that you know what you're talking about. And it's manipulative. That tactic you use, in every argument, just shows how desperate you are. You're on a naruto forum, bragging about being a part of the military and having access to infromation, that YOU think is valid, and then blabbering about it, constantly, with this pompous/stuck up attitude. I don't care for it, it's just reverse psychology...you don't know anything.

Honestly, you could say anything...and I'd care little. I wouldn't be impressed or intimidated, because you have no argument of your own...just condescending drivel, to at least have the benefit of the doubt. You misuse information, and you use it to deflect accountability.

In total, I think you're all talk. Pouring tons of distorted information, and then throwing links here and there, followed by quotes or references from other sources, looks like nothing but a defense mechanism, and makes you look entirely egotistical. I'm so sick of looking at how deceptive your posts are, and seeing you using this site gloating about having someone else's information and looking for a social climb. You SWEAR up and down you're valid, when really, you just use tons of verbiage and make it look that way. It's totally deceptive and childish.

Say whatever you want, it's deceptive and charlatanism. I need you to cut the act.

 

[Ōkami]

Why did they make her look like a cheap hooker from the 90s?

 

[Fountain]

I don't think she looks the part.

Congrats, you are a white supremacist now.

 

[Aim64C]

I'm not convinced of you, just to let you know...

Por Que?

I'm well aware that you use links and quote information from articles, because you think it further backs up your point. It's sort of a "stereotype", thinking that doing that automatically validates your point of view.No, it makes you a con artist and set up.

I thought it was how reasonable people exchanged and debated ideas. By linking to a source and then quoting the relevant portion, it gives two things - both my source for the information and the part I consider to be the most relevant to my point. If giving people those two things while in the course of discussing ideas is being a "con artist" and "set up" - then what you are really saying is that the art of contesting another person with information is being a "con artist."

You use these links and quotes to defend your point of view, because you can't think for yourself, and your point of view cannot stand on it's own, you have an insecurity, like I said. Where's your natural intelligence?You have none.

I actually brought them up as more exemplary than anything else. You'll find a lot of extremely intelligent individuals quoting the works of other great philosophers and orators before them. Why re-invent the wheel?

Again, the point is rather simple. If I were to make a Live Action of Static Shock, and make him a white kid - would that be "breaking barriers?"

This is part of the assault on reality by the political left - as exemplified by Four Lights. Continually assault and abuse people until they admit that there was some kind of obscene and cruel barrier by having Star Fire as a white (do Russians and Germans qualify as white, now? The definition of who is and who isn't seems to vary - Asians are occasionally included in it, for whatever reason) - and that casting the character with a black actress is the proper way to break down that perceived barrier. This is exactly the process that children are subjected to in today's schools. They are ostracized and penalized by the system and teachers until accepting certain things as 'truths' which will be perceived at every available opportunity. There is very little racism... until you have been conditioned to excavate everything until something to be construed as racism is found.

You bringing up these quotes and links, just look like pure psychology...to at least give the impression that you know what you're talking about. And it's manipulative. That tactic you use, in every argument, just shows how desperate you are. You're on a naruto forum, bragging about being a part of the military and having access to infromation, that YOU think is valid, and then blabbering about it, constantly, with this pompous/stuck up attitude. I don't care for it, it's just reverse psychology...you don't know anything.

Don't be so conceited. I'm not here for you. You are simply the current body of Agent Smith, and am therefor engaging the narrative so that others may see that it can be fought and it can be beaten.

That is another delusion propagated by the system - that you have little value. "This is just an x" forum. My arguments with members here, prior, led to some very critical revelations, and I am permanently in that individual's debt. You have far more value than you give yourself credit for.

Honestly, you could say anything...and I'd care little. I wouldn't be impressed or intimidated, because you have no argument of your own...just condescending drivel, to at least have the benefit of the doubt. You misuse information, and you use it to deflect accountability.

What am I accountable for? The image of Star Fire as not black?
What is the proper use of the information I have given? Please, enlighten me.

Of course you perceive me as condescending. I am not rolling over for you, as you have been trained to expect from your conditioning. I am expecting things out of you beyond simple repetitions of the brainwashing you have been served, and it's quite intimidating. Fear is freedom.

In total, I think you're all talk. Pouring tons of distorted information, and then throwing links here and there, followed by quotes or references from other sources, looks like nothing but a defense mechanism, and makes you look entirely egotistical. I'm so sick of looking at how deceptive your posts are, and seeing you using this site gloating about having someone else's information and looking for a social climb. You SWEAR up and down you're valid, when really, you just use tons of verbiage and make it look that way. It's totally deceptive and childish.

How many times are you going to repeat the same thing? Over and over, you just keep insulting me, without ever addressing my points.

What barrier exists that must be broken?
Why is it that casting a black person as Star Fire breaks this barrier?
If a white person were to play Cyborg, would it also break that same barrier?

These are rather simple questions that you refuse to address, resorting, instead, to a whole range of personal attacks against a person who has flat-out told you that it won't work. You can persist, if you want, and employ your smurf accounts to try and dislike me into submission - or even call up the whole of the leftist cabal to descend upon my profile and turn my green bar into a red bar of evil. I welcome you to try. There are four lights.

Say whatever you want, it's deceptive and charlatanism. I need you to cut the act.

Now who is a narcissist? You need me to do something? Do you have a pair of boobs I don't know about... or are going to birth my kid, or something? Why should I care what you need? What are you to me that would have me jumping through hoops to satisfy your demands?

There are four lights. It is not an act. And, trust me, I am being quite humble considering who and what I am.

 

[Dreckerplayer]

Por Que?



I thought it was how reasonable people exchanged and debated ideas. By linking to a source and then quoting the relevant portion, it gives two things - both my source for the information and the part I consider to be the most relevant to my point. If giving people those two things while in the course of discussing ideas is being a "con artist" and "set up" - then what you are really saying is that the art of contesting another person with information is being a "con artist."



I actually brought them up as more exemplary than anything else. You'll find a lot of extremely intelligent individuals quoting the works of other great philosophers and orators before them. Why re-invent the wheel?

Again, the point is rather simple. If I were to make a Live Action of Static Shock, and make him a white kid - would that be "breaking barriers?"

This is part of the assault on reality by the political left - as exemplified by Four Lights. Continually assault and abuse people until they admit that there was some kind of obscene and cruel barrier by having Star Fire as a white (do Russians and Germans qualify as white, now? The definition of who is and who isn't seems to vary - Asians are occasionally included in it, for whatever reason) - and that casting the character with a black actress is the proper way to break down that perceived barrier. This is exactly the process that children are subjected to in today's schools. They are ostracized and penalized by the system and teachers until accepting certain things as 'truths' which will be perceived at every available opportunity. There is very little racism... until you have been conditioned to excavate everything until something to be construed as racism is found.



Don't be so conceited. I'm not here for you. You are simply the current body of Agent Smith, and am therefor engaging the narrative so that others may see that it can be fought and it can be beaten.

That is another delusion propagated by the system - that you have little value. "This is just an x" forum. My arguments with members here, prior, led to some very critical revelations, and I am permanently in that individual's debt. You have far more value than you give yourself credit for.



What am I accountable for? The image of Star Fire as not black?
What is the proper use of the information I have given? Please, enlighten me.

Of course you perceive me as condescending. I am not rolling over for you, as you have been trained to expect from your conditioning. I am expecting things out of you beyond simple repetitions of the brainwashing you have been served, and it's quite intimidating. Fear is freedom.



How many times are you going to repeat the same thing? Over and over, you just keep insulting me, without ever addressing my points.

What barrier exists that must be broken?
Why is it that casting a black person as Star Fire breaks this barrier?
If a white person were to play Cyborg, would it also break that same barrier?

These are rather simple questions that you refuse to address, resorting, instead, to a whole range of personal attacks against a person who has flat-out told you that it won't work. You can persist, if you want, and employ your smurf accounts to try and dislike me into submission - or even call up the whole of the leftist cabal to descend upon my profile and turn my green bar into a red bar of evil. I welcome you to try. There are four lights.



Now who is a narcissist? You need me to do something? Do you have a pair of boobs I don't know about... or are going to birth my kid, or something? Why should I care what you need? What are you to me that would have me jumping through hoops to satisfy your demands?

There are four lights. It is not an act. And, trust me, I am being quite humble considering who and what I am.

Okay, self-entitled genius.

Whatever you say. You have to at least make yourself look good, since you are putting on a show.

Learn to hold a simple discussion, without trying to make yourself look better or superior to the next person, which really entails an inferiority complex. It's the opposite of humble, it's self-importancy.

There's "standing out", which is me effortlessly, without having to spend 30 minutes researching articles or premeditating responses just to make a response, and then there's a "charlatan act" that thinks he's so much better than everyone, walks an EXTRA mile to prove his point, that should speak for itself, which would be you.

You are a narcissist, and I think you know you are.

 

[Aim64C]

Okay, self-entitled genius.

Whatever you say. You have to at least make yourself look good, since you are putting on a show.

Learn to hold a simple discussion, without trying to make yourself look better or superior to the next person, which really entails an inferiority complex. It's the opposite of humble, it's self-importancy.

There's "standing out", which is me effortlessly, without having to spend 30 minutes researching articles or premeditating responses just to make a response, and then there's a "charlatan act" that thinks he's so much better than everyone, walks an EXTRA mile to prove his point, that should speak for itself, which would be you.

You are a narcissist, and I think you know you are.

All of which is delightfully irrelevant to the fact that you have failed to support your position and have absolutely no clue how to support your position.

Try answering these questions:

What barrier exists that must be broken?
Why is it that casting a black person as Star Fire breaks this barrier?
If a white person were to play Cyborg, would it also break that same barrier?

 

[Animegoin]

Is this for the X-men?

No, X-men is Marvel. Teen Titans, Batman, Starfire, etc. are DC comics.

OT: The fucking wig is 90% of the problem imo.

 

[Adam Driver]

Just so people know, This is what she'll roughly look like.

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Yikes.

 

[Animegoin]

yeah this stuff like this is what irks me.

We might as well start hiring blacks to portray Hitler while we are at it just to appease insane people. Of course they cry out "integration!" yet when it comes to their own stuff, they wish to be segregated.

Just take a look at their whining about the Oscars "It's 90% white" then they have a BET awards XD They want everyone's but they don't want others having theirs. Where have I heard of that mentality before?

Oh yeah... white supremacists.

OT:

I don't think she looks the part.

Any female can play Starfire as she is an alien.

Although a redhead would be far easier as Starfire is a redhead with green eyes.
Just need to get her the Floridian spray tan and you get yourself a Starfire.

Also having a pausing accent would be a nice touch.

This gal though, or at least her design is not cutting it. Get Hallie Barry to do it, if you want a black chick lmao!

@Bold: Lmfao that’s a real person, it wouldn’t be acceptable for historical accuracy. It’ll be absolutely retarded to have a black person play the leader of the racist Nazi party; that’s just beyond dumb. The only exception I could see would be for parody/comedic roles, nothing more.

But while we’re on the subject, isn’t there a white guy cast to play Michael Jackson in a movie about him? I definitely remember people talking about it. Should we talk about that or...? :Sparks:

So in summation, fictional characters can be played by anyone BUT their background and role should be considered. If the character is a Nazi, like Red Skull, then a white person should play them. If they’re a Pharaoh or King of Wakanda, a Black person should play them. A Chinese Emperor, a Chinese or East Asian person of descent.

 

[HowDidIGetPrem]

Was pretty convinced that this was a travesty until a member gave images of the others. Literally none of them look like the characters they're representing to begin with. You can flail on the costume all you want though.

 

[~WastelandSociety~]

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Break barriers? Is this truly your own thought process, or is it something that has been programmed into you as a response to blatant nonsense?

First, the question is "what barrier" are you referring to, second is "does this barrier serve a useful function - IE - I don't get to go pick up grade school girls", and third is "does this actually break that barrier?" I would argue that there is no barrier present in casting an actress based on the character design - or, even if you want to argue it is a barrier, that it serves a logical and practical function.

Let's invert this scenario and say Black Panther were cast by a white actor.



Why couldn't she have been a white twin-spirit transexual who claims black as a race? Barriers need to be broken, and I think that breaks more than just a few barriers.



People are getting tired of blatant nonsense being thrown in front of them. There are four lights.



From 1984:

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It was as though some huge force were pressing down upon you—something that penetrated inside your skull, battering against your brain, frightening you out of your beliefs, persuading you, almost, to deny the evidence of your senses. In the end the Party would announce that two and two made five, and you would have to believe it. It was inevitable that they should make that claim sooner or later: the logic of their position demanded it. Not merely the validity of experience, but the very existence of external reality was tacitly denied by their philosophy. The heresy of heresies was common sense. And what was terrifying was not that they would kill you for thinking otherwise, but that they might be right. For, after all, how do we know that two and two make four? Or that the force of gravity works? Or that the past is unchangeable? If both the past and the external world exist only in the mind, and if the mind itself is controllable—what then?

" The Ministry of Peace concerns itself with war, the Ministry of Truth with lies, the Ministry of Love with torture and the Ministry of Plenty with starvation. These contradictions are not accidental, nor do they result from ordinary hypocrisy; they are deliberate exercises in doublethink. For it is only by reconciling contradictions that power can be retained indefinitely. In no other way could the ancient cycle be broken. If human equality is to be for ever averted—if the High, as we have called them, are to keep their places permanently—then the prevailing mental condition must be controlled insanity. " ]

Yes! Welcome back,Aim64C .
Debates on NB has been rather dull without you in the mix.

Ho-ly-shit he's back.

Just as batshit as ever.


I'd also add that the biggest travesty is that beastboy isn't actually green.

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Well, now I will definitely not watch if beast boy remains white with green hair.

 

[SIR HERDERP PRESIDERP SDO]

A litttle off-topic but I just found out the actor who played Mini-Me in Austin Powers just died, RIP

 

[~WastelandSociety~]

A litttle off-topic but I just found oit the actor who played Mini-Me in Austin Powers just died, RIP

Please tell me this is a hoax :NO:

 

[SIR HERDERP PRESIDERP SDO]

Please tell me this is a hoax :NO:

Unfortunately no, it was confirmed by official sources that he died yesterday at the age of 49.

 

[KingKongDaddyLong]

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That’s what she will look like Post Production. Anyone who has seen an onset photo of any CGI heavy production, let alone a leaked photo, will know it looks awful unless it is framed right. So the backlash is unnecessary. To the people upset she’s black... other than Donald Trump I don’t know an orange Tameranean on Earth, so race shouldn’t be a factor, Starfire isn’t white, nor is it comparable to Black Panther, where the Character’s race is significant to its legacy and actual portrayal.

Honestly, to be criticizing her and none of others strikes a racist tone.

 

[Tantalus Thief]

Just so people know, This is what she'll roughly look like.

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like bruh wtf lol. Nothing against the actress but really. At least Robin looked cool. Will probably be a bit better when we see it in action but still.

 

[Pumpkin Ninja]

Honestly, I'm not convinced people really care that she is black more so than they care that she isn't hot. Starfire was really hot and this lady isn't from that one picture. If she was as attractive as she is in the comments, even if she was black, I think it would have been a lesser issue.