Why is it no Senju and almost no Uchiha became Jinchuuriki

[unknownvillain1254]

I guess since Mito was the 1st Jin it stayed in her clan. Senju and Uchiha have stronger chakra and bodies than uzumaki but due to mito it stayed in the uzumaki’s line. Not to mention Mito was Jin for a hella long time.

Lol new story tell me more

 

[FemmeFatale]

Uzumaki were the slaves of the ninja world, the damn near sold kushina to the leaf and probably Mito to Hashirama, I doubt there was love there tbh

 

[AllKnowingShinobi]

Hashirama and Madara had special powerful KKG that allowed them to accomplish such feats. Call jinchuuriki noobs once we see someone without inborn genetic advantages accomplish the same feats.

Naruto was breed into mastering the nine tail and he too had the kkg(uzamaki charka) . Naurtos seal was weakened since birth to narutos reflection waterfall training. Bro that waterfall and temple was meant for normal/less accomplished people to master the beast but as you know its abandoned and falling apart. Seals are the way to go its for the noobs and ninja tech for the extra noobs.

no normal human will even come close to mastering a tailed beast. Its take a true convictions and pure of heart to even come close to befirend a beast that we will never see unless its the main character lol.

 

[Mori Jin]

They didn't have the body to handle a Bijuu being sealed inside them. Obviously Hashirama don't count, that monster was already too powerful without a Bijuu making it worse.

 

[Warlocks]

was he prefect jin tho? i mean i dont know if it is posible, but imagine if 10 tailes copperates with its host like Kurama and Naruto...
Juubi BM ;ddd

NO

if he was then he would have :lol dif sasuke and naruto (but excluding sun-moon seals)

 

[salamander uchiha]

Uzumaki were the slaves of the ninja world, the damn near sold kushina to the leaf and probably Mito to Hashirama, I doubt there was love there tbh

Actually quite true.

OT: They were already over powered they didn't need to become completely unrivalled.

 

[chaos control]

Naruto was breed into mastering the nine tail and he too had the kkg(uzamaki charka) . Naurtos seal was weakened since birth to narutos reflection waterfall training. Bro that waterfall and temple was meant for normal/less accomplished people to master the beast but as you know its abandoned and falling apart. Seals are the way to go its for the noobs and ninja tech for the extra noobs.

no normal human will even come close to mastering a tailed beast. Its take a true convictions and pure of heart to even come close to befirend a beast that we will never see unless its the main character lol.

Naruto has no KKG (not including any powers obtained during or after the war). In fact the Uzumaki clan has no KKG in general. The closest thing that they have to a KKG is the sealing chains, but that is a hidden technique (not a KKG), and Naruto doesn't even have those. Kushina's "special chakara" only referred to the fact that she could suppress Kurama and the fact that she could use the chains to do this. That aside, Uzumakis don't have any special unique type of chakara.

Also, how exactly is sealing it inside of you more "noobish" than controlling it with the sharingan?

If anything, Madara would be the noob if you think about what the different processes entail.

To control and master the power of a bijuu as a jinchuuriki is actually quite the intricate process. First you have to choose a seal, and there are plenty of seals with different complexities to them. To name a few, there is the tetragram seal, the torii seal, the iron ball seal, the six paths ten tails coffin seal, etc... Each seal has its own properties (ie. the tetragram seal makes it so that a little chakara leaks out and mixes with the jinchuuriki's own chakara reserves, while the torii seal makes it so that the bijuu can move around more. The seal that Kushina had literally had Kurama chained to a ball of lava, etc...). The person who seals the beast has to carefully write the seal. One incorrectly drawn mark or curve could mess up the entire thing. The seal can also be changed, damaged, repaired and altered as seen several times during the series. All of this intircacy just has to do with the seal alone.
Then, even once you've sealed the beast inside of a person, the jinchuuriki doesn't even immediately get the power. They either have to fight the bijuu and pull out their chakara, or befriend the bijuu and precisely meld their chakara with the bijuu's. Even if they manage to do that, this still doesn't grant mastery! Naruto had to put in some actual work and training to master chakara arms. When he first got KCM, he couldn't even hold a rock properly! Then, mastering bijuudama requires one to master that 8:2 ratio of black and white chakara.

In short, mastering the power of a jinchuuriki is a difficult process. There is a reason why there is such thing as a "perfect jinchuuriki" while other jinchuurikis are not perfect ones!

Meanwhile, what kind of difficulty is involved in controlling a bijuu via sharingan? Not much really. As long as you have the proper eyes for it (which are granted to you due to emotion, not training or hard work mind you), then all you need to do is give a single glance at the bijuu. It is really not much effort or intricacy at all to be honest. Maybe, just maybe, you might need a tiny bit of genjutsu skill for it, but as far as actual effort goes, that is about it.

So tell me then, which way is the noob way?

Is it the way that requires intricate sealing, rigorous training, chakara synchronization, a potential fight with a bijuu, and much more?

Or

Giving nothing more than a glance with your eyes that were simply handed to you by your genes and emotions?


At the end of the day, I say the noob is the one who can't work for their power, but has to be handed everything by genetics (and I am saying all this stuff as a Madara fan).

They didn't have the body to handle a Bijuu being sealed inside them. Obviously Hashirama don't count, that monster was already too powerful without a Bijuu making it worse.

@Bold: That is not true. You don't need any kind of special body to handle a bijuu. You need to be compatible and your body needs to be sufficiently strong, but it doesn't really need to be special like an Uzumaki's body.

My proof of this:

Bee can handle a bijuu (and be a perfect jin)
Yagura could handle a bijuu (and be a perfect jin)
Gaara, Yugito, Roshi, Han, Yutakata, Fu, and even Rin were all able to handle bijuus.

As far as we know, none of these people had any kind of special body.

What makes you think then, that Uchihas/Senjus "didn't have the body" to host a bijuu?

 

[Mori Jin]

Naruto has no KKG (not including any powers obtained during or after the war). In fact the Uzumaki clan has no KKG in general. The closest thing that they have to a KKG is the sealing chains, but that is a hidden technique (not a KKG), and Naruto doesn't even have those. Kushina's "special chakara" only referred to the fact that she could suppress Kurama and the fact that she could use the chains to do this. That aside, Uzumakis don't have any special unique type of chakara.

Also, how exactly is sealing it inside of you more "noobish" than controlling it with the sharingan?

If anything, Madara would be the noob if you think about what the different processes entail.

To control and master the power of a bijuu as a jinchuuriki is actually quite the intricate process. First you have to choose a seal, and there are plenty of seals with different complexities to them. To name a few, there is the tetragram seal, the torii seal, the iron ball seal, the six paths ten tails coffin seal, etc... Each seal has its own properties (ie. the tetragram seal makes it so that a little chakara leaks out and mixes with the jinchuuriki's own chakara reserves, while the torii seal makes it so that the bijuu can move around more. The seal that Kushina had literally had Kurama chained to a ball of lava, etc...). The person who seals the beast has to carefully write the seal. One incorrectly drawn mark or curve could mess up the entire thing. The seal can also be changed, damaged, repaired and altered as seen several times during the series. All of this intircacy just has to do with the seal alone.
Then, even once you've sealed the beast inside of a person, the jinchuuriki doesn't even immediately get the power. They either have to fight the bijuu and pull out their chakara, or befriend the bijuu and precisely meld their chakara with the bijuu's. Even if they manage to do that, this still doesn't grant mastery! Naruto had to put in some actual work and training to master chakara arms. When he first got KCM, he couldn't even hold a rock properly! Then, mastering bijuudama requires one to master that 8:2 ratio of black and white chakara.

In short, mastering the power of a jinchuuriki is a difficult process. There is a reason why there is such thing as a "perfect jinchuuriki" while other jinchuurikis are not perfect ones!

Meanwhile, what kind of difficulty is involved in controlling a bijuu via sharingan? Not much really. As long as you have the proper eyes for it (which are granted to you due to emotion, not training or hard work mind you), then all you need to do is give a single glance at the bijuu. It is really not much effort or intricacy at all to be honest. Maybe, just maybe, you might need a tiny bit of genjutsu skill for it, but as far as actual effort goes, that is about it.

So tell me then, which way is the noob way?

Is it the way that requires intricate sealing, rigorous training, chakara synchronization, a potential fight with a bijuu, and much more?

Or

Giving nothing more than a glance with your eyes that were simply handed to you by your genes and emotions?


At the end of the day, I say the noob is the one who can't work for their power, but has to be handed everything by genetics (and I am saying all this stuff as a Madara fan).



@Bold: That is not true. You don't need any kind of special body to handle a bijuu. You need to be compatible and your body needs to be sufficiently strong, but it doesn't really need to be special like an Uzumaki's body.

My proof of this:

Bee can handle a bijuu (and be a perfect jin)
Yagura could handle a bijuu (and be a perfect jin)
Gaara, Yugito, Roshi, Han, Yutakata, Fu, and even Rin were all able to handle bijuus.

As far as we know, none of these people had any kind of special body.

What makes you think then, that Uchihas/Senjus "didn't have the body" to host a bijuu?

There's only 3 perfect Jinchuurikis and that's Bee, Naruto and Minato. The others (Yagura included) are not perfect Jinchuurikis.

Was actually thinking about the Kyuubi when I wrote that. They could probably host one of the Bijuus (1-8). None of them would be able to handle the 9 tails without some kind of enhancement (Hashirama's cells probably, that seems to work for everything).

 

[salamander uchiha]

Did someone claim you need a strong body to house a tailed beast? Or that the Uzumaki have strong bodies?

It's canon that the Uzumaki have strong lifeforce, excel at fuinn jutsu and purebloods have red hair(identifier). No mention of strong bodies for the Uzumaki clan.

Anyway no specific condition was mentioned as a requirement to house a tailed beast. Kushina was chosen because of her strong chakra/special ability and not because others couldn't house the 9 tails. Kushina possessed strong chakra, yin release (maybe origin of chains) = chains and stronger ones at that which can be used to suppress the 9 tails.

 

[Shruikan]

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Kinda BS how he was killed via backstab though. Wonder why he didn't switch to his limbo.

 

[Uverdore9]

Uzumakis are a clan of lifeforce. The special chakra is not thiers it comes from a different clan interbreeding, my presumption is its The Haruno clan's power.

 

[chaos control]

There's only 3 perfect Jinchuurikis and that's Bee, Naruto and Minato. The others (Yagura included) are not perfect Jinchuurikis.

Was actually thinking about the Kyuubi when I wrote that. They could probably host one of the Bijuus (1-8). None of them would be able to handle the 9 tails without some kind of enhancement (Hashirama's cells probably, that seems to work for everything).

Yagura was actually stated to be a perfect jinchuuriki. It was subtle, but go look it up on his wiki. Anyway, there is no proof to suggest that nobody besides an Uzumaki could host Kurama. The reason why we've only had Uzumaki jinchuuriki of Kurama is because Mito had it first, then she wanted to give it to a clansmen, so Kushina got it, and then the whole thing with Obito/Kurama attacking Konoha happened, so Naruto got it in a last minute decision. Basically, it was circumstance.

 

[unknownvillain1254]

Yagura was actually stated to be a perfect jinchuuriki. It was subtle, but go look it up on his wiki. Anyway, there is no proof to suggest that nobody besides an Uzumaki could host Kurama. The reason why we've only had Uzumaki jinchuuriki of Kurama is because Mito had it first, then she wanted to give it to a clansmen, so Kushina got it, and then the whole thing with Obito/Kurama attacking Konoha happened, so Naruto got it in a last minute decision. Basically, it was circumstance.

And they retcon like everything else get over it

 

[Pappasaur]

Hashirama and Madara had special powerful KKG that allowed them to accomplish such feats. Call jinchuuriki noobs once we see someone without inborn genetic advantages accomplish the same feats.

Third Raikage went toe to toe with the 8 tails and had no kkg, does that count?

 

[Darth AniCetuS]

They didn't have the body to handle a Bijuu being sealed inside them. Obviously Hashirama don't count, that monster was already too powerful without a Bijuu making it worse.

This and even more so when they're kids.

 

[chaos control]

And they retcon like everything else get over it

What are you even talking about?

Third Raikage went toe to toe with the 8 tails and had no kkg, does that count?

No. We were talking about controlling a bijuu, not defeating one. The dude was calling jinchuuriki noobs for controlling bijuus via sealing it inside of them instead of controlling the bijuu from the outside like an Uchiha or Hashirama.

However, I'm arguing that those that we have seen control a bijuu from the outside were only able to do so because they were gifted special genetic traits (ie. sharingan and mokuton), and not because of any actual skillfulness or anything like that. Therefore, a jinchuuriki can't be called a noob in this aspect simply for not being born to a special race.


Defeating a bijuu in battle is a different matter, and anyone can theoretically do that as long as they have the skills/power.

 

[To Whatever]

Uzumaki were the slaves of the ninja world, the damn near sold kushina to the leaf and probably Mito to Hashirama, I doubt there was love there tbh

No.they.weren't

You retarded bitch,


They had their own village, land, economy, shinobi system and government.

Their relationship with the leaf was based on trust and mutual respect. In no way was it implied that they were slaves. Read the manga before you spout nonsense.

 

[Mori Jin]

Yagura was actually stated to be a perfect jinchuuriki. It was subtle, but go look it up on his wiki. Anyway, there is no proof to suggest that nobody besides an Uzumaki could host Kurama. The reason why we've only had Uzumaki jinchuuriki of Kurama is because Mito had it first, then she wanted to give it to a clansmen, so Kushina got it, and then the whole thing with Obito/Kurama attacking Konoha happened, so Naruto got it in a last minute decision. Basically, it was circumstance.

Yagura and was under the control of Obito's Sharingan. The only 3 perfect Jinchuurikis are Bee,Naruto, and Minato. Manga is proof enough. Uzumaki's and Edo Tensei Minato being the only ones to be able to handle the Bijuu being sealed in them is proof enough. Mito had it first, then they had to get someone else (Kushina), who had the ability to be able to survive it, her special chakra was why she was the only one compatible. Why look into another village, if there were Senju and Uchihas that could handle it. They didn't cause there wasn't any. It was not circumstance nor can you name a single uchiha or senju (other then Hashirama) that could handle having the Kyuubi sealed in them.

 

[FemmeFatale]

No.they.weren't

You retarded bitch,


They had their own village, land, economy, shinobi system and government.

Their relationship with the leaf was based on trust and mutual respect. In no way was it implied that they were slaves. Read the manga before you spout nonsense.

From a mans pov , yes.
Trading off women to ensure hat alliance . They were literally trafficking humans. Naruto just romanticized it .

And would u call your mother a retarded bitch?

 

[unknownvillain1254]

What are you even talking about?



No. We were talking about controlling a bijuu, not defeating one. The dude was calling jinchuuriki noobs for controlling bijuus via sealing it inside of them instead of controlling the bijuu from the outside like an Uchiha or Hashirama.

However, I'm arguing that those that we have seen control a bijuu from the outside were only able to do so because they were gifted special genetic traits (ie. sharingan and mokuton), and not because of any actual skillfulness or anything like that. Therefore, a jinchuuriki can't be called a noob in this aspect simply for not being born to a special race.


Defeating a bijuu in battle is a different matter, and anyone can theoretically do that as long as they have the skills/power.

You know what I said it got retcon get over it


That's a new level of stupid