How is Naruto gonna combat 3rd eye wielders?

[SeveN797]

Lol if she cast IT before they were born then based on your logic there should be no people left to fear her and yet Hagoromo says people began to fear her due to her powers.

It was never stated she used it on whole world, quite the opposite :lol

@Bold Yeah where's the evidence that BZ is even capable of that and that too when its someone else's IT. Not to mention half of Obito's body was directly exposed to IT.

Someone else's IT? BZ is a part of Kaguya. Half of Obito's body being exposed doesn't change the fact that he and BZ were 1 being during that time. If Obito was to be affected, so should BZ, but BZ was immune, so was Obito thanks to him.

He had the seal and she first assumed he was either Hagoromo or Hamura but then assumed he was Ashura

all of the above of rikudo users

But rikudo users aren't immune.

 

[Darth AniCetuS]

It was never stated she used it on whole world, quite the opposite :lol

And yet we see IT's light affects everyone in the world once casted in the manga. Unless you have an evidence that she didn't cast it on the entire world.

Someone else's IT? BZ is a part of Kaguya. Half of Obito's body being exposed doesn't change the fact that he and BZ were 1 being during that time. If Obito was to be affected, so should BZ, but BZ was immune, so was Obito thanks to him.

That's again just your assumption. BZ has never even hinted that he could prevent IT from affecting others even when he remarked at Sasuke's susanoo doing so.

 

[SeveN797]

And yet we see IT's light affects everyone in the world once casted in the manga. Unless you have an evidence that she didn't cast it on the entire world.

Madara reflected IT on the moon, Kaguya didn't as there was no moon back then, you said it yourself :lol

That's again just your assumption. BZ has never even hinted that he could prevent IT from affecting others even when he remarked at Sasuke's susanoo doing so.

What assumption? he already did that :lol He himself may not know that he would save Obito from IT, but it doesn't change the fact that he did.

 

[Darth AniCetuS]

Madara reflected IT on the moon, Kaguya didn't as there was no moon back then, you said it yourself :lol

I know that already but probably you're not aware that moon shines at only one side of the earth and yet people on the other side were affected by IT too cuz IT's light penetrates everything. So I'll ask again, where is the proof that she didn't cast IT on the entire world?

What assumption? he already did that :lol He himself may not know that he would save Obito from IT, but it doesn't change the fact that he did.

So no evidence I take it.

@Bold And that is more assumptions smh.

 

[Uverdore9]

Sasuke deterred IT with Rinnesharingan's power + SusanoO's Rikudo power. Tomoe Rinnegan proves it. Zetsu claims his rinnegan can deter IT, proving fact all Rinnegan cannot resist Light. Only Kekkei Mora Rinnegan of Hagoromo whichs in equal level to Kaguya's Rinnesharingan and Sasukes RinneTomoe whichs brand new ocular power can deter it, its the closest eye to Kekkei Mora, it traverses dimensions like Kaguya, has a space time Ninjutsu with similar name to Amenominaka, can traverse Kaguya's dimensions which is stated only connected ST Ninjutsu can bypass like Kamui.

 

[SeveN797]

I know that already but probably you're not aware that moon shines at only one side of the earth and yet people on the other side were affected by IT too cuz IT's light penetrates everything. So I'll ask again, where is the proof that she didn't cast IT on the entire world?

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She used it on the populace of the land she came to and was living in back then.

So no evidence I take it.

@Bold And that is more assumptions smh.

Black Zetsu was in control of his body in the beginning, but once they returned with Madara from Kamui dimension, he was also in control of his consciousness. There was no Obito back then, you could only see physically half of his body, and that's all.

 

[Darth AniCetuS]

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She used it on the populace of the land she came to and was living in back then.

Kaguya was an extraterrestrial being so that scan is quite ambiguous. However the events are not. If Kaguya cast the IT before Hagoromo and Hamura were born then by the time they fought and sealed Kaguya it'd have been at least 20-30 years since she cast it which means there was no point in breaking the limited number of people as you claim out of IT cuz they'd have already turned into zetsus. And yet we know Hagoromo broke an IT genjutsu and was able to pass the knowledge of how to do so to Naruto and Sasuke.

Black Zetsu was in control of his body in the beginning, but once they returned with Madara from Kamui dimension, he was also in control of his consciousness. There was no Obito back then, you could only see physically half of his body, and that's all.

Well true but how does this prove that BZ made him immune to IT when there's not even the slightest of hint that he has such an ability or that he did it....

 

[SeveN797]

Kaguya was an extraterrestrial being so that scan is quite ambiguous. However the events are not. If Kaguya cast the IT before Hagoromo and Hamura were born then by the time they fought and sealed Kaguya it'd have been at least 20-30 years since she cast it which means there was no point in breaking the limited number of people as you claim out of IT cuz they'd have already turned into zetsus. And yet we know Hagoromo broke an IT genjutsu and was able to pass the knowledge of how to do so to Naruto and Sasuke.

The amount of fanfic and denial you're restoring to only to not admit you're wrong is amazing, either you're doing that on purpose, or you read different manga.

1. It's clearly stated she used it on population, not entire population of the word, I don't care about your twisted interpretation.

2.She was intending to create an army, not rid the world of all people

3. Hagoromo explained she used the Byakugan(not literally, but he implied it) to extend the range of the genjutsu itself.

4. We know Kaguya's Infinite Tsukuyomi never affected the entire population or else there wouldn't be any humans left. Hagoromo never dispelled his mother's IT, just researched how to theoretically do so. If he had, the White Zetsu she created would have withered.

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Well true but how does this prove that BZ made him immune to IT when there's not even the slightest of hint that he has such an ability or that he did it....

Because there was no Obito's consciousness to be put in genjutsu at that time, only BZ's which was immune.

 

[Darth AniCetuS]

The amount of fanfic and denial you're restoring to only to not admit you're wrong is amazing, either you're doing that on purpose, or you read different manga.

1. It's clearly stated she used it on population, not entire population of the word, I don't care about your twisted interpretation.

2.She was intending to create an army, not rid the world of all people

3. Hagoromo explained she used the Byakugan(not literally, but he implied it) to extend the range of the genjutsu itself.

4. We know Kaguya's Infinite Tsukuyomi never affected the entire population or else there wouldn't be any humans left. Hagoromo never dispelled his mother's IT, just researched how to theoretically do so. If he had, the White Zetsu she created would have withered.

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Where's the denial?

She is an alien who could travel worlds so using the word populace is quite ambiguous unless stated specifically what exactly it means. And I already gave you reasons why it meant the whole worlds in my last post. And IT's light penetrates everything even the other side of the moon. And Hagoromo had no reason to research IT if he there was no IT used during his era.
To me it seems you're in denial with the Kaguya used IT before Hago and Hamura were born cuz Hagoromo wouldn't research IT otherwise.

Because there was no Obito's consciousness to be put in genjutsu at that time, only BZ's which was immune.

Lol even when Ino takes over the other's mind the target still retains their consciousness fighting to break out of the technique. Not to mention Obito goes back to normal when BZ left him which I doubt would be possible if there was none of his conciousness left. Zetsu simply tried to imply that he had full control over Obito's body.

 

[SeveN797]

Where's the denial?

She is an alien who could travel worlds so using the word populace is quite ambiguous unless stated specifically what exactly it means. And I already gave you reasons why it meant the whole worlds in my last post. And IT's light penetrates everything even the other side of the moon. And Hagoromo had no reason to research IT if he there was no IT used during his era.
To me it seems you're in denial with the Kaguya used IT before Hago and Hamura were born cuz Hagoromo wouldn't research IT otherwise.

@bold don't care about your opinion
Says " Hagoromo had no reason to research IT" yet manga blatantly stated that he did going to deny Hagoromo words now?

Kaguya never used the moon to reflect IT on it, which means whole world was never affected, she targeted specific people/area with her ocular powers as stated in the manga
Already explained to you with my 4 points that she didn't cast IT on whole world. Deny it if you want :lol

Lol even when Ino takes over the other's mind the target still retains their consciousness fighting to break out of the technique. Not to mention Obito goes back to normal when BZ left him which I doubt would be possible if there was none of his conciousness left. Zetsu simply tried to imply that he had full control over Obito's body.

Comparing Ino's technique to BZ now? Obito went back to normal only because Naruto did his magic with sun seal.

 

[Darth AniCetuS]

@bold don't care about your opinion
Says " Hagoromo had no reason to research IT" yet manga blatantly stated that he did going to deny Hagoromo words now?

Kaguya never used the moon to reflect IT on it, which means whole world was never affected, she targeted specific people/area with her ocular powers as stated in the manga
Already explained to you with my 4 points that she didn't cast IT on whole world. Deny it if you want :lol

@Bold Don't care about your opinion.

And learn to read lol. I clearly said Hagoromo had no reason to research IT unless he needed to undo IT. The fact that he researched it only proves that Kaguya had casted IT during their era.

And your excuse about her not casting IT on the whole world doesn't hold true when her will BZ planned for generation to cast it on the whole world lol.
All you did is post more of your BS assumptions.

Comparing Ino's technique to BZ now? Obito went back to normal only because Naruto did his magic with sun seal.

Why don't you tell me then which technique BZ used :lol

 

[SeveN797]

@Bold Don't care about your opinion.

Her not using a moon is my opinion now? It was stated in the manga

And learn to read lol. I clearly said Hagoromo had no reason to research IT unless he needed to undo IT. The fact that he researched it only proves that Kaguya had casted IT during their era.

Never said she didn't cast IT during their era, but she did that before giving birth to them.

And your excuse about her not casting IT on the whole world doesn't hold true when her will BZ planned for generation to cast it on the whole world lol.

Bring scans instead of empty words.

Why don't you tell me then which technique BZ used :lol

Because it was never named?

 

[Darth AniCetuS]

Her not using a moon is my opinion now? It was stated in the manga

Again failed to read smh. Kaguya not using the moon doesn't prove that the whole world wasn't affected when IT's light penetrates through everything.

Never said she didn't cast IT during their era, but she did that before giving birth to them.

If she cast IT before they were born then Hagoromo had no reason to research IT cuz every one affected by IT would've already been transformed into zetsus. The fact that he did research it only proves that she had cast IT when they were all grown up and thus needed a means to undo IT before it converts everyone.

Bring scans instead of empty words.

Bring scans she cast it on a selective population.
Bring scans that she cast before Hagoromo was born.

Maybe then I'll consider.

Because it was never named?

Exactly because there wasn't a technique but only your assumptions...again....:kk:

 

[SeveN797]

LMAO this one is going to be fun

Again failed to read smh. Kaguya not using the moon doesn't prove that the whole world wasn't affected when IT's light penetrates through everything.

To affect whole world you need to use moon. Moon shines over 1 half of the planet, but the light penetrates through and affects other half regardless. Kaguya used her ocular powers to target specific area, which means the IT's light shined only over that area, and the light penetrated through to the 2nd area, which was in the other half of the planet.

If she cast IT before they were born then Hagoromo had no reason to research IT cuz every one affected by IT would've already been transformed into zetsus. The fact that he did research it only proves that she had cast IT when they were all grown up and thus needed a means to undo IT before it converts everyone.

Lmao that's what happened, did you even read the manga?

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Hagoromo never dispelled his mother's IT. If he had, the White Zetsu she created would have withered. IT did convert everyone, but there were still people, because Kaguya didn't target whole planet.

Bring scans she cast it on a selective population.
Bring scans that she cast before Hagoromo was born.

Lmao this is what you meant?

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He's talking about second IT in order to bring Kaguya back, and we're talking about first one used by Kaguya hahahah wtf

Exactly because there wasn't a technique but only your assumptions...again....:kk:

Hahahahaha so just because BZ ability to
- coat itself over a target.
- restrict the movement of the target by coating a target's body
- forcibly make them do its bidding by directly channelling its will through them
- stabilising their life-force
- protecting them from IT

Doesn't have names it's means they're assumptions ? hahahahah wtf

 

[Darth AniCetuS]

LMAO this one is going to be fun

Indeed. I can see that lol.

To affect whole world you need to use moon. Moon shines over 1 half of the planet, but the light penetrates through and affects other half regardless. Kaguya used her ocular powers to target specific area, which means the IT's light shined only over that area, and the light penetrated through to the 2nd area, which was in the other half of the planet.

@Bold Yeah a scan please where it specifically says this.

Rest is pointless with respect to claims @Bold made.

Lmao that's what happened, did you even read the manga?

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Hagoromo never dispelled his mother's IT. If he had, the White Zetsu she created would have withered. IT did convert everyone, but there were still people, because Kaguya didn't target whole planet.

So you saying Kaguya's Infinite Tsukiyomi is still active and that's why her zetsus didn't wither away is that it?...

Lmao this is what you meant?

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He's talking about second IT in order to bring Kaguya back, and we're talking about first one used by Kaguya hahahah wtf

Lol what're you even trying to imply with those scans? That's not what I asked.

Hahahahaha so just because BZ ability to
- coat itself over a target.
- restrict the movement of the target by coating a target's body
- forcibly make them do its bidding by directly channelling its will through them
- stabilising their life-force
- protecting them from IT

Doesn't have names it's means they're assumptions ? hahahahah wtf

Doesn't have a name nor the slightest of hint that there's even a technique like your fanfic lol.

 

[SeveN797]

@Bold Yeah a scan please where it specifically says this.

Rest is pointless with respect to claims @Bold made.

Read the manga, more specifically the chapter where Madara casted IT :lol
There's also Obito's statement saying that to affect all living humans on this earth, he needs to reflect his eye off the moon.
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Now that I think about it. She didn't use the moon, but her ocular powers which means there was no light that penetrates surface to begin with.

So you saying Kaguya's Infinite Tsukiyomi is still active and that's why her zetsus didn't wither away is that it?...

Indeed, no one stopped and canceled her IT ,so she converted everyone she aimed for to white zetsu's.

Lol what're you even trying to imply with those scans? That's not what I asked.

Excuse me

BZ planned for generation to cast it on the whole world lol.

You didn't bother posting scans for this statement you made, so I did it for you. Sorry was I wrong? Then correct me, whith correct scans if you can

Doesn't have a name nor the slightest of hint that there's even a technique like your fanfic lol.

Lmao usual denial, all BZ's abilities I just listed doesn't have a name either are they fanfics? :lol

 

[Darth AniCetuS]

Read the manga, more specifically the chapter where Madara casted IT :lol
There's also Obito's statement saying that to affect all living humans on this earth, he needs to reflect his eye off the moon.
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Stop throwing in your assumptions.
So where does it specifically say that IT can only cast on the entire world using only the moon and no other way.

Now that I think about it. She didn't use the moon, but her ocular powers which means there was no light that penetrates surface to begin with

More assumptions when the manga clearly says IT's light penetrates everything...

Indeed, no one stopped and canceled her IT ,so she converted everyone she aimed for to white zetsu's.

So where is it casted?

Excuse me

Excused for not providing the scans :lol

You didn't bother posting scans for this statement you made, so I did it for you. Sorry was I wrong? Then correct me, whith correct scans if you can

Well do you disagree that BZ was planning IT for generations. You can checkout the chapter where Kaguya grabbed both Naruto and Sasuke and BZ explains his plans. Its all there.

Lmao usual denial, all BZ's abilities I just listed doesn't have a name either are they fanfics? :lol

Nothing to deny about assumptions :lol

 

[SeveN797]

Stop throwing in your assumptions.
So where does it specifically say that IT can only cast on the entire world using only the moon and no other way.

Obito said he wanted to put everyone in genjutsu
Why did Obito say he need the moon
Doesn't take even 10 iq to figure this out

More assumptions when the manga clearly says IT's light penetrates everything...

Can you even read? How can there be IT's light when there was no moon

So where is it casted?

It's already finished, she used it with her ocular powers and turned people she aimed for into zetsu's.

Well do you disagree that BZ was planning IT for generations. You can checkout the chapter where Kaguya grabbed both Naruto and Sasuke and BZ explains his plans. Its all there.

@bold I don't it's true

But do you realize we're talking about first IT and whenever Kaguya used it on whole planet or not? ? BZ wasn't even "born" when Kaguya casted first IT. Why do you bring BZ and his plans about second IT? Do you even think what you post ?

 

[Darth AniCetuS]

Obito said he wanted to put everyone in genjutsu
Why did Obito say he need the moon
Doesn't take even 10 iq to figure this out

Didn't you read the manga? Cuz that's what BZ wrote on the tablet.

Can you even read? How can there be IT's light when there was no moon

The moon doesn't have its own light. It only reflects IT's light.

It's already finished, she used it with her ocular powers and turned people she aimed for into zetsu's.

Doubt that. If it were already finished then she'd have used them against Hagoromo and Hamura when she was losing considering she created them to fight the Otsutsukis.

@bold I don't it's true

But do you realize we're talking about first IT and whenever Kaguya used it on whole planet or not? ? BZ wasn't even "born" when Kaguya casted first IT. Why do you bring BZ and his plans about second IT? Do you even think what you post ?

Does it even matter when he was Kaguya's will and knew everything about her despite being born right before she got sealed. He had all her knowledge as he displayed when Kaguya fought against Naruto and Sasuke.
So even the knowledge of IT and the moon version must've come from her directly.

 

[SeveN797]

Didn't you read the manga? Cuz that's what BZ wrote on the tablet.

He didn't lie about that part. He only lied about IT being "Uchiha's salvation" or whatever it was called

The moon doesn't have its own light. It only reflects IT's light.

It doesn't in real life, but it does in Kishi's manga

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Doubt that. If it were already finished then she'd have used them against Hagoromo and Hamura when she was losing considering she created them to fight the Otsutsukis.

You can doubt that, idc fact stays, oh here comes the usual argument, "if it worked she would use it"

Does it even matter when he was Kaguya's will and knew everything about her despite being born right before she got sealed. He had all her knowledge as he displayed when Kaguya fought against Naruto and Sasuke.
So even the knowledge of IT and the moon version must've come from her directly.

Doesn't change the fact that we're talking about first IT not second