[Discussion] Top 5 from the worst generation?

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When luffys Era takes over, luffy will be pirate king, so who besides luffy obviously being top 5 who will the yonko be? The other 4?

Urouge will be a yonko probably
Law will be
Kidd will be

Now luffy would be, the last one of course but let's just say they gave someone else a yonko title after luffy became pirate king, who do you think it would be? Hawkins??? Curious on this one




And this is just a bonus question no one needs to answer, and don't answer o
Coby, he's extremely weak never been shown to be on par with luffy, is much younger and not from the same Era, luffy will be to coby like akainu to luffy. But anyways

Who do you think the admirals of their Era will be? New people? Do you think smoker will be an admiral? Momomga?
 
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When luffys Era takes over, luffy will be pirate king, so who besides luffy obviously being top 5 who will the yonko be? The other 4?

Urouge will be a yonko probably
Law will be
Kidd will be

Now luffy would be, the last one of course but let's just say they gave someone else a yonko title after luffy became pirate king, who do you think it would be? Hawkins??? Curious on this one




And this is just a bonus question no one needs to answer, and don't answer o
Coby, he's extremely weak never been shown to be on par with luffy, is much younger and not from the same Era, luffy will be to coby like akainu to luffy. But anyways

Who do you think the admirals of their Era will be? New people? Do you think smoker will be an admiral? Momomga?

You forgot that Blackbeard is also from the worst generation
 

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urouge, bege, bonnie and kid cause I believe law will be a straw hat
 

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In strength I feel like it’s
1. Luffy
2. Zoro
3. Kid
4. Law
5. X Drake
6. Urouge
7. Hawkins
8. Apoo
9. Bege
10. Killer
11. Bonney

In being Yonkou I feel like Blackbeard is too strong to step done from that seat.
Kidd, Urouge, and maybe Bonney (big mam’s position) will take the next seat. Others will be notable pirates that are compared to a yonkou and the rest would by killed.
 

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I think Luffy will demolish all 4 Yonko and have their land under his protection. But I guess my list would be,

1, 100% Kidd. He's the only one that resisted becoming obedient to Kaido.

2, X Drake. I think his position in Kaido's crew is a lot like Bege's inside of Big Mom's. Difference being, we have a lot of reason to assume X Drake isn't a chump.

3, Basil Hawkens. He has too much going for him with his probability checks. The only way he could possibly fail is if he's weak as heeelllllll.

4, ?????
 

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Top five currently:

1. Blackbeard
2. Urouge
3. Luffy
4. Law
5. Kid

Top five EOS:

1. Luffy
2. Zoro/Blackbeard
3. Blackbeard/Zoro
4. Law/Kid
5. Kid/Law
 

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Top five currently:

1. Blackbeard
2. Urouge
3. Luffy
4. Law
5. Kid

Top five EOS:

1. Luffy
2. Zoro/Blackbeard
3. Blackbeard/Zoro
4. Law/Kid
5. Kid/Law

Luffy beat Katakuri and Urogue beat Snack.
 

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0 Blackbeard, but he is on his own level now.
1 X-Drake
2 Luffy
3 Law
4 Kidd
5 Urouge
 

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Why do you put Urouge ahead of Luffy?

Luffy beat Katakuri and Urogue beat Snack.

As far as we know, Urouge was able to beat someone on Katakuri's level on his own, while Luffy beating Katakuri seemed to be influenced by the wound Katakuri has.

I reluctantly put Urouge over Luffy because it can always be revealed that Snack is much weaker or that Urouge had help or something, this is just what my gut tells me rn.
 

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As far as we know, Urouge was able to beat someone on Katakuri's level on his own, while Luffy beating Katakuri seemed to be influenced by the wound Katakuri has.

I reluctantly put Urouge over Luffy because it can always be revealed that Snack is much weaker or that Urouge had help or something, this is just what my gut tells me rn.

luffy only got that wound, because katakuri had help, even though he didn't know it was only fair for him to even the playing field if he wanted it to truly be a 1on 1.
 

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With feats hype and portrayal included I believe its sort of like this

Luffy
Law/Urouge
Urouge/Law
Zoro (has great feats strength wise and has looked absolutely perfect post time skip. The only problem is that he has faced nothing but weak opponents thus far.)
Kidd (idk where to place him the only reason he is so high is that of the captain trio portrayal back in pre-time skip)
 

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As far as we know, Urouge was able to beat someone on Katakuri's level on his own, while Luffy beating Katakuri seemed to be influenced by the wound Katakuri has.

I reluctantly put Urouge over Luffy because it can always be revealed that Snack is much weaker or that Urouge had help or something, this is just what my gut tells me rn.

I can't agree there. Cracker was portrayed to be above Snack, and Katakuri was portrayed to above the both of them. Luffy beating not only Cracker, but also Katakuri despite having help against Cracker should be more than enough to put Luffy above Urouge.
 
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With feats hype and portrayal included I believe its sort of like this

Luffy
Law/Urouge
Urouge/Law
Zoro (has great feats strength wise and has looked absolutely perfect post time skip. The only problem is that he has faced nothing but weak opponents thus far.)
Kidd (idk where to place him the only reason he is so high is that of the captain trio portrayal back in pre-time skip)

Why is Neptune weak? Even if he's only average, he and his family, no diifd by zoro alone
 

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You forgot that Blackbeard is also from the worst generation

When and where does it confirm Blackbeard is part of the worst gen. I don’t remember him being part of it. He’s seem like he’d be part of ace/Marco generation
 

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When and where does it confirm Blackbeard is part of the worst gen. I don’t remember him being part of it. He’s seem like he’d be part of ace/Marco generation

You're correct, he's not worst gen and he is far far older than luffy and them
 

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I can't agree there. Cracker was portrayed to be above Snack, and Katakuri was portrayed to above the both of them. Luffy beating not only Cracker, but also Katakuri despite having help against Katakuri should be more than enough to put Luffy above Urouge.

You can't argue with an idiot that implies a yonkou first mate is on the same level of lower level commanders that openly admitted that they are inferior to that specific First Mate.
All I know is that this stupid logic of his is just to indirectly somehow elevate Doflamingo's level after being proved by countless members and the manga that he's wrong. Not too long ago, he said that Law>Luffy just because Law was Dofy's underling at some point.

Oda would throw up from all the crap he's posted.
 
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I can't agree there. Cracker was portrayed to be above Snack, and Katakuri was portrayed to above the both of them. Luffy beating not only Cracker, but also Katakuri despite having help against Katakuri should be more than enough to put Luffy above Urouge.
Did you forget that Luffy only beat Cracker because he had help? Also, being stronger than someone isn't automatically the same as being a level/tier above them. There's no proof the commanders aren't on the same level.

You can't argue with an idiot that implies a yonkou first mate is on the same level of lower level commanders that openly admitted that they are inferior to that specific First Mate.

I know you're not talking about Katakuri, who's never been called the FM. You can also be weaker than someone while being on their level.
Not too long ago, he said that Law>Luffy just because Law was Dofy's underling at some point.

I have never said this.
When and where does it confirm Blackbeard is part of the worst gen. I don’t remember him being part of it. He’s seem like he’d be part of ace/Marco generation

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Did you forget that Luffy only beat Cracker because he had help? Also, being stronger than someone isn't automatically the same as being a level/tier above them. There's no proof the commanders aren't on the same level.

I understand that, I mentioned that in my post.

However we have to use common sense here. Generally, the weaker guys get beaten before the ultimate final showdown. That's normally how it works. Urougue beat Snack and then Smoothie mentioned how Cracker was sent in after that. You don't send in someone weaker than the guy who got defeated. And then, Katakuri was the final man. We can compare feats, and Katakuri has a higher bounty and more impressive feats. Like I said, in Shonen the weaker guy gets defeated before the ultimate showdown against the strongest man. Luffy prevailed against both of them.

I understand that whole tier thing, but you can't place Urogue above Luffy because he beat Snack when Luffy prevailed against 2 commanders who were placed on a higher pedestal than Snack. Snack was portrayed to be below Cracker, and Luffy beat someone who was stronger than Cracker so him having help against him doesn't negate the fact that he beat someone seemingly stronger than him.
 
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Top five currently:

1. Blackbeard
2. Urouge
3. Luffy
4. Law
5. Kid

Top five EOS:

1. Luffy
2. Zoro/Blackbeard
3. Blackbeard/Zoro
4. Law/Kid
5. Kid/Law

why put urouge ahead of luffy on the first then dont even list him in the second anyway luffy the strongest supernova of the group
 
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