Does a mother and father "truly" serve as a template for how you view males/females?

[Dreckerplayer]

Does a mother and father "truly" serve as a template for how you view males/females?

I believe it can give you a good outlook, or even a bad outlook. Since parents do represent a lot of what's going on in this world.It gives you an example, but as INDIVIDUALS. Not cause your mom represents all women, or your dad represents all men, I believe anyone that isn't your parent, that you're always around can do that, too...it gives you a good head start...or even a "set back", to be honest.

However, I think having two parents help better understand who YOU are, as a person, the closest connection. I think it's essential, beyond what others or psychologists tell you. I think adoptive parents are just an empty/forced connection.A sentiment/self-entitlement based connection.It sort of makes no sense. Children aren't animals you pick out in the barnyard to play pretend. Some adoptive parents are even child predators.

I truly feel people need to really enlighten others on what having a kid means. What it entails, or even what damage it could cause you or the child, if you happen to be an unfit parent. We also really need to enlighten others on how pointless it is, or how they're perpetuating a stereotype by even considering having a child, when the circumstances are just horrible. For many, they shouldn't even be thinking about it, cause it isn't some thing you do "for the culture" or to "keep up" with others.Sort of selfish.It's kind of like appropriating culture, if anything.

We need to stop culturizing procreation and stop culturizing adoption.Adoption is not suppose to be an option. And it isn't someone else's responsibility to raise your child, or some "plan B". Getting personally involved in something you can't really understand, on a genetic level.You lack the substance.

You have some parents with children, that consider adoption, so they try less hard as parents, because they think adoption is okay or open to them.It makes them try less harder, because it's in the back of their minds.

It's a set up, it's reverse psychology.They wish to lure you in.There's tons of child abuse, hidden secrets. And then you have parents mindlessly giving their children away, because they think it's someone else's responsibility to raise their child, if things don't go their way.Stop giving these people escapes, stop enabling them.

Adoption culture is enabling. Putting your children into the hands of fantasy driven wannabes.

 

[Dreckerplayer]

Re: Does a mother and father "truly" serve as a template for how you view males/femal

Two people of the same gender as "parents", is obviously an over-abundance of one side. Or at least the distortion of it.

 

[Yeah right]

Re: Does a mother and father "truly" serve as a template for how you view males/femal

Save this for a long detailed post.

Dreckerplayer, adoption is not bad. It is not fake, an empty gesture. Jesus...

 

[HowDidIGetPrem]

Re: Does a mother and father "truly" serve as a template for how you view males/femal

You always start with reasonable premises then screw it all up with ridiculous statements.
People like you that can't imagine others considering children that aren't blood related their own will always bother me.
I guess it's better to let a child waste off with parents that wouldn't bat an eye at them though.

 

[Dreckerplayer]

Re: Does a mother and father "truly" serve as a template for how you view males/femal

Save this for a long detailed post.

Dreckerplayer, adoption is not bad. It is not fake, an empty gesture. Jesus...

adoption is not an option. It's not their child, and never was theirs. You can only provide for the child on a materialistic level.

 

[Lightbringer]

Re: Does a mother and father "truly" serve as a template for how you view males/femal

Get a therapist. You really need one.

 

[Dreckerplayer]

Re: Does a mother and father "truly" serve as a template for how you view males/femal

You always start with reasonable premises then screw it all up with ridiculous statements.
People like you that can't imagine others considering children that aren't blood related their own will always bother me.
I guess it's better to let a child waste off with parents that wouldn't bat an eye at them though.

@bold:Correction:The statements you disagree with or can't handle.

You seem to always have a personal opinion of me. Stop having those.

 

[Dreckerplayer]

Re: Does a mother and father "truly" serve as a template for how you view males/femal

Get a therapist. You really need one.

I remember going to a therapist as a teen, and basically ended up being the therapist to the therapist. My situation couldn't be solved, not with them, and I ended up helping her, more than she helped me. They couldn't really help.

If a child goes to a therapist, it's usually the parents that suck, and are in denial about it.The parents that can't take accountability, and just love to appropriate culture. That's the whole psychology, there. Asking someone else to do something for their child, that they're suppose to do. Stop giving these people options, and makes them try a lot less hard.

 

[Lightbringer]

Re: Does a mother and father "truly" serve as a template for how you view males/femal

I remember going to a therapist as a teen, and basically ended up being the therapist to the therapist. My situation couldn't be solved, not with them, and I ended up helping her, more than she helped me. They couldn't really help.

If a child goes to a therapist, it's usually the parents that suck, and are in denial about it.The parents that can't take accountability, and just love to appropriate culture. That's the whole psychology, there. Asking someone else to do something for their child, that they're suppose to do. Stop giving these people options, and makes them try a lot less hard.

Ok, so tell me a solution.

 

[HowDidIGetPrem]

Re: Does a mother and father "truly" serve as a template for how you view males/femal

I remember going to a therapist as a teen, and basically ended up being the therapist to the therapist. My situation couldn't be solved, not with them, and I ended up helping her, more than she helped me. They couldn't really help.

Lmao this guy.

 

[Dreckerplayer]

Re: Does a mother and father "truly" serve as a template for how you view males/femal

Ok, so tell me a solution.

Solution to what?

 

[Exaar]

Re: Does a mother and father "truly" serve as a template for how you view males/femal

This coming from someone who doesn't even understand relationships, It's hardly a surprise you also fail to understand the people who adopt and their reasons for doing so.
It's not a complicated thing to understand how people form bonds with children that isn't their blood relation.

 

[Dreckerplayer]

Re: Does a mother and father "truly" serve as a template for how you view males/femal

This coming from someone who doesn't even understand relationships, It's hardly a surprise you also fail to understand the people who adopt and their reasons for doing so.
It's not a complicated thing to understand how people form bonds with children that isn't their blood relation.

You're absolutely correct, I have no understanding of empty connections. Cause I do not entertain them.

 

[Lightbringer]

Re: Does a mother and father "truly" serve as a template for how you view males/femal

Solution to what?

To a dysfunctional family where the child is neglected and abused and the child has no course of action?

You said that adoption was not an option.

 

[Greatness23]

Re: Does a mother and father "truly" serve as a template for how you view males/femal

to the header, no

 

[Dreckerplayer]

Re: Does a mother and father "truly" serve as a template for how you view males/femal

To a dysfunctional family where the child is neglected and abused and the child has no course of action?

You said that adoption was not an option.

Adoption/Foster home is the assumption that the child will be in better hands.

And adoption is obviously a legal right. But as a parent, from a common place, it shouldn't be an option, as in, it shouldn't be considered, knowing that your child is not someone else's child.

What you're talking about is a social worker/police taking your child away from you by force, for being a fucking psychopath. That shit is illegal. You'll live the rest of your life, with forced connections.

Kind of just you taking my post out of context.

 

[Joon]

Re: Does a mother and father "truly" serve as a template for how you view males/femal

I was with you in the first part, saying that many see a male and female Parent as a good model for raising a child. However, saying that can be a misconception was true - and basing it on the child themselves and how their perspective is shaped by the environment or encounters.

Then you went on a rant about adoption and you lost me.

 

[Dreckerplayer]

Re: Does a mother and father "truly" serve as a template for how you view males/femal

I was with you in the first part, saying that many see a male and female Parent as a good model for raising a child. However, saying that can be a misconception was true - and basing it on the child themselves and how their perspective is shaped by the environment or encounters.

Then you went on a rant about adoption and you lost me.

It matters, none the less. You should of kept an open mind.

 

[Lightbringer]

Re: Does a mother and father "truly" serve as a template for how you view males/femal

Adoption/Foster home is the assumption that the child will be in better hands.

And adoption is obviously a legal right. But as a parent, from a common place, it shouldn't be an option, as in, it shouldn't be considered, knowing that your child is not someone else's child.

What you're talking about is a social worker/police taking your child away from you by force, for being a fucking psychopath. That shit is illegal. You'll live the rest of your life, with forced connections.

Kind of just you taking my post out of context.

Ok, well what if you know for a fact that you can't afford to raise the child?

People get laid off all of the time which puts the family in a rough place.

This happened to an acquaintance of mine. She has 4 kids and her husband used to make a decent salary, but ever since he got laid of he's been making only 1/5 of his original pay and became an alcoholic. The mother on the other hand works 2 jobs in retail and is dying of a tumor.

Their current living situation is horrendous, where they can't even afford heating and healthy food is more expensive than unhealthy food.

So you're telling me the best thing for these kids is to stay with these parents? That's a selfish proposition.

 

[Dreckerplayer]

Re: Does a mother and father "truly" serve as a template for how you view males/femal

Ok, well what if you know for a fact that you can't afford to raise the child?

People get laid off all of the time which puts the family in a rough place.

This happened to an acquaintance of mine. She has 4 kids and her husband used to make a decent salary, but ever since he got laid of he's been making only 1/5 of his original pay and became an alcoholic. The mother on the other hand works 2 jobs in retail and is dying of a tumor.

Their current living situation is horrendous, where they can't even afford heating and healthy food is more expensive than unhealthy food.

So you're telling me the best thing for these kids is to stay with these parents? That's a selfish proposition.

The shallow/superficial answer I was expecting from you.

What of their bonds?What of their connections?It's so weird that you think like that. And then, what PARENT would want to permanently give up their child, whom they have a connection with, away to some strangers.Neither of em are dead.And if the dad goes full retard, and the mom dies of cancer, obviously the children will be taken away from them by the law.That's not giving them up for adoption, cause if they did, that'd be ABANDONING them.This is how I know your post is insincere.

You make a lot of excuses. Those people don't know how to survive, they just know how to give up when things go wrong, and expect someone else to clean up after them. That's selfish.

So much twisted psychology is your post.