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About that opening seen in this week’s episode(53). Im doing a break down, meaning line for line and try to extract as much context as possible. These will be my interpretations of the dialogue. BE READY TO READ!! Let’s go.
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*Urashiki crashes onto the moon*
‘I’ve finally found you. I took quite a while.... Lord Toneri Ohtsutsuki.’
Already this tells me a few things. Urashiki’ crashing down the way he did indicates he isn’t using a time space jutsu. He’s simply flying through space. Urashiki says that it took quite a while for him to finally meet with toneri. This could be mean that he’s been traveling for a lengthy period of time or has cover a wide area of space, searching moons, planets and other celestial bodies all to find toneri. We still don’t know how long he’s been wanting this meeting with toneri.
‘You’ve finally appeared, Celestial Being.’
‘Why stand on formality? We’re from the same clan....’
So toneri is paying him the utmost respects by calling him celestial being. Remember he see the members of his clan as gods. It doesn’t mean the that title is inappropriate or inaccurate, it just means he’s acknowledging his status. The subtitles even capitalizes the words celestial beings. Urashiki response makes it seem like he doesn’t need toneri’ praise. It gives off a familiar vibe, like he feels close to toneri or has known of him for a while.
‘I Thought that the fate of the ohtsutsuki clan would end with me.’
‘Quite the contrary.... The main family of the Ohtsutsuki Clan doesn’t feel that way.’
‘The main family? If they exist, why did they forsake us for a thousand years?’
So toneri for the longest though himself to be the last living ohtsutsuki member. With kaguya being resealed, with hagoromo being briefly revived only to return to the afterworld, and with hamura’ passing along with the entire clan on the moon, it was just him now. At least that’s what he thought. Urashiki tells toneri it’s actually the opposite of what’s he’s been thinking meaning the clan is very much a live and well, and possibly even thriving. There’s no real way to put a figure on how many members are in the main family, but you could easily say their total members amount to far more than the members of the moon branch of the clan at its peak.
Toneri was confused at the idea that more of his people existed he doesn’t get why his own family would watch him and his clan suffer. Urashiki acknowledges saying ‘We saw it all’. The he goes on to describe the events of the last movie, which is where we were introduced to toneri. Urashiki says, ‘the incident with the women with byakugan is quite unfortunate, and yet, you still risk your life for that planet... I must hand it to you.’
There’s something about the way urashiki is describing the events of the last movie. It’s almost like the opening scene of the boruto movie and that scene from last weeks episode where we saw Sasuke’ enter kaguya’ ice dimension. Once Sasuke was spotted, Momoshiki called him a visitor. Then while fighting Sasuke, kinshiki didn’t think anything of him, until Sasuke teleported away from his chakra axe attack. That ability genuinely surprised kinshiki, and right after that momoshiki noticed Sasuke had rinnegan and he was also surprised. Urashiki recalling the events of the last and Sasuke‘ introduction to kinshiki and momoshiki share a similarity. Both times the members of the ohtsutsuki clan recognize their dojutsu, but didn’t know the person. The byakugan and rinnegan were powers of the ohtsutsuki, it was their own power. So if they’re witnessing people outside of their clan using their own power, it could be against the law of the clan. I wonder, why does urashiki knows toneri by name but not hinata?
Urashiki then says, ‘however, this means that you’re betraying the clan’. Here urashiki reveals the reason for his visit. He was there to bring toneri to justice for crimes against the clan. Likewise, momoshiki noticing non ohtsutsuki members having the power of rinnegan and accessing kaguya’ dimension could only means she acted out against the clan too. Back when kaguya was revived during the 4th war, she called the planet her nursery and didn’t want to do it any more damage than what was already done. Plus the fact that she never reported the planet’ curvature. Kaguya and toneri are seen as traitors by the main family of their clan. They’d decided rather than harvesting the planet they were going to preserve it and protect it. By ohtsutsuki standards, that was unacceptable.
‘You may believe that you made the first move by doing something to that woman’s son... But that was very hastily prepared’.
‘You speak as if you know everything. But you never made yourself known until today.’
Toneri appearing to boruto was to push him in the right direction and to helped him awaken jougan. The novels also state that by appearing to boruto in a dream toneri sped up the process of boruto access his latent potential. So this is toneri’ last hope in saving the planet or something much greater. So urashiki may know toneri aided boruto in some way, but he doesn’t know the specifics of their interaction.
Toneri says, ‘what would you know about that planet’, then attacks the Celestial Being. So toneri is ready to fight or even die for the main planet of Naruto. This is drastically different from the toneri we saw in the last who was ready to destroy them planet using the suns chakra or solar energy. I think that change in character incredible to see. To answer toneri’ question , urashiki says, yes we don’t’, in other words the have little idea of what took place on the planet. This is the part that confuses me. On one hand urashiki says ‘they saw it all’ or basically they saw everything, but then he says him and the main branch don’t know about the planet. So if they’re aware of the events that took place over the last millennium, what about that plane tdont they know? I think what Urashiki could referring to is the same 16 curvature kinshiki noticed. The planet itself might be unique for it to have to abnormal curvature rating. Or maybe there are some events that happened in the past 1000 years that they didn’t know of. It could be both.
The next exchange starts with urashiki saying, ’this is why we were dispatched’.
‘We?’
‘Well let’s leave it at that’.
So this basically confirms toneri has no knowledge of momoshiki or kinshiki. This also could confirm the 3 of them(momo kinsh, and ura) knowing each other or of each other and being sent to the main planet at the same time. When toneri responded with that question ‘we?’ He got stopped by urashiki jutsu that we saw in his sketches. It instantly immobilize him.
Urashiki tells toneri he has no problems fighting but he isn’t allowed to kill a clanmate, I suspect the reason being that it’s would be a waste of chakra to do that. Instead urashiki drops a box that toneri recognized as a time freeze. It won’t kill, instead urashiki tells him to enjoy the palace of the dragon king for the next 10,000 years. Not too much is know about the mechanics of time stop or who the dragon king is or where his palace is, still 10,000 years is a long time. Unless someone saves him, we might not be seeing toneri for a while. Or maybe we’ll get some episode where they show how he’s spending time in the dragon kings palace. I wonder if we were ever given hints towards and a dragon king. We know that kabuto claimed to turn into a dragon and we know that the white snake sage his on a throne and behind him is a dragon holding a scroll, but who’s this dragon king. Is it anything like king Enma or 4 tails king goku. Also what about the hand held games that boruto plays. I could’ve be sworn I read something about a dragon. Maybe it was a piece of boruto’ gear or one of the enemies he was fighting with shikadai and inojin. Still I’m looking forward to learning more about this dragon king and what exactly is toneri gonna do for the next 10k years.
As toneri’ body turns into a shimmering crystal, urashiki leaps off moon’ surface and says, ‘All right. Time for me to reel in a big catch.’ Almost like it’s his time to prove himself to his clan. We can obviously assume he means to achieve the same thing as momoshiki and kinshiki, to finsh what kaguya started to collect all chakra a turn them into either a fruit or pills.
Toneri still being crystallized scream at urashiki telling him ‘stop!’ and ‘don’t’, right after he said it he was fully frozen. Then while frozen we here his thought as he says boruto still isn’t ready, he’s not strong enough right now. And interestingly enough the next scene takes us back down to the planet and shows us boruto stopping in his tracks and staring up at the visible moon and holding his eye. He clearly senses something.
————————————————? ?� �————
That’s the entire scene. I’m gonna do some more digging to figure out how those games tie into the story. I’m almost sure I read something about a dragon in reference to his hand held game.
Was it ever established if hagromo and hamura are considered main or side branch of the ohsutsuki clan?
Did y’all spot anything else from this scene? share you thoughts or findings.
Isn’t there any way to look up time freeze? Is it based on anything we know?
[video]https://streamable.com/bcmqc[/video]
*Urashiki crashes onto the moon*
‘I’ve finally found you. I took quite a while.... Lord Toneri Ohtsutsuki.’
Already this tells me a few things. Urashiki’ crashing down the way he did indicates he isn’t using a time space jutsu. He’s simply flying through space. Urashiki says that it took quite a while for him to finally meet with toneri. This could be mean that he’s been traveling for a lengthy period of time or has cover a wide area of space, searching moons, planets and other celestial bodies all to find toneri. We still don’t know how long he’s been wanting this meeting with toneri.
‘You’ve finally appeared, Celestial Being.’
‘Why stand on formality? We’re from the same clan....’
So toneri is paying him the utmost respects by calling him celestial being. Remember he see the members of his clan as gods. It doesn’t mean the that title is inappropriate or inaccurate, it just means he’s acknowledging his status. The subtitles even capitalizes the words celestial beings. Urashiki response makes it seem like he doesn’t need toneri’ praise. It gives off a familiar vibe, like he feels close to toneri or has known of him for a while.
‘I Thought that the fate of the ohtsutsuki clan would end with me.’
‘Quite the contrary.... The main family of the Ohtsutsuki Clan doesn’t feel that way.’
‘The main family? If they exist, why did they forsake us for a thousand years?’
So toneri for the longest though himself to be the last living ohtsutsuki member. With kaguya being resealed, with hagoromo being briefly revived only to return to the afterworld, and with hamura’ passing along with the entire clan on the moon, it was just him now. At least that’s what he thought. Urashiki tells toneri it’s actually the opposite of what’s he’s been thinking meaning the clan is very much a live and well, and possibly even thriving. There’s no real way to put a figure on how many members are in the main family, but you could easily say their total members amount to far more than the members of the moon branch of the clan at its peak.
Toneri was confused at the idea that more of his people existed he doesn’t get why his own family would watch him and his clan suffer. Urashiki acknowledges saying ‘We saw it all’. The he goes on to describe the events of the last movie, which is where we were introduced to toneri. Urashiki says, ‘the incident with the women with byakugan is quite unfortunate, and yet, you still risk your life for that planet... I must hand it to you.’
There’s something about the way urashiki is describing the events of the last movie. It’s almost like the opening scene of the boruto movie and that scene from last weeks episode where we saw Sasuke’ enter kaguya’ ice dimension. Once Sasuke was spotted, Momoshiki called him a visitor. Then while fighting Sasuke, kinshiki didn’t think anything of him, until Sasuke teleported away from his chakra axe attack. That ability genuinely surprised kinshiki, and right after that momoshiki noticed Sasuke had rinnegan and he was also surprised. Urashiki recalling the events of the last and Sasuke‘ introduction to kinshiki and momoshiki share a similarity. Both times the members of the ohtsutsuki clan recognize their dojutsu, but didn’t know the person. The byakugan and rinnegan were powers of the ohtsutsuki, it was their own power. So if they’re witnessing people outside of their clan using their own power, it could be against the law of the clan. I wonder, why does urashiki knows toneri by name but not hinata?
Urashiki then says, ‘however, this means that you’re betraying the clan’. Here urashiki reveals the reason for his visit. He was there to bring toneri to justice for crimes against the clan. Likewise, momoshiki noticing non ohtsutsuki members having the power of rinnegan and accessing kaguya’ dimension could only means she acted out against the clan too. Back when kaguya was revived during the 4th war, she called the planet her nursery and didn’t want to do it any more damage than what was already done. Plus the fact that she never reported the planet’ curvature. Kaguya and toneri are seen as traitors by the main family of their clan. They’d decided rather than harvesting the planet they were going to preserve it and protect it. By ohtsutsuki standards, that was unacceptable.
‘You may believe that you made the first move by doing something to that woman’s son... But that was very hastily prepared’.
‘You speak as if you know everything. But you never made yourself known until today.’
Toneri appearing to boruto was to push him in the right direction and to helped him awaken jougan. The novels also state that by appearing to boruto in a dream toneri sped up the process of boruto access his latent potential. So this is toneri’ last hope in saving the planet or something much greater. So urashiki may know toneri aided boruto in some way, but he doesn’t know the specifics of their interaction.
Toneri says, ‘what would you know about that planet’, then attacks the Celestial Being. So toneri is ready to fight or even die for the main planet of Naruto. This is drastically different from the toneri we saw in the last who was ready to destroy them planet using the suns chakra or solar energy. I think that change in character incredible to see. To answer toneri’ question , urashiki says, yes we don’t’, in other words the have little idea of what took place on the planet. This is the part that confuses me. On one hand urashiki says ‘they saw it all’ or basically they saw everything, but then he says him and the main branch don’t know about the planet. So if they’re aware of the events that took place over the last millennium, what about that plane tdont they know? I think what Urashiki could referring to is the same 16 curvature kinshiki noticed. The planet itself might be unique for it to have to abnormal curvature rating. Or maybe there are some events that happened in the past 1000 years that they didn’t know of. It could be both.
The next exchange starts with urashiki saying, ’this is why we were dispatched’.
‘We?’
‘Well let’s leave it at that’.
So this basically confirms toneri has no knowledge of momoshiki or kinshiki. This also could confirm the 3 of them(momo kinsh, and ura) knowing each other or of each other and being sent to the main planet at the same time. When toneri responded with that question ‘we?’ He got stopped by urashiki jutsu that we saw in his sketches. It instantly immobilize him.
Urashiki tells toneri he has no problems fighting but he isn’t allowed to kill a clanmate, I suspect the reason being that it’s would be a waste of chakra to do that. Instead urashiki drops a box that toneri recognized as a time freeze. It won’t kill, instead urashiki tells him to enjoy the palace of the dragon king for the next 10,000 years. Not too much is know about the mechanics of time stop or who the dragon king is or where his palace is, still 10,000 years is a long time. Unless someone saves him, we might not be seeing toneri for a while. Or maybe we’ll get some episode where they show how he’s spending time in the dragon kings palace. I wonder if we were ever given hints towards and a dragon king. We know that kabuto claimed to turn into a dragon and we know that the white snake sage his on a throne and behind him is a dragon holding a scroll, but who’s this dragon king. Is it anything like king Enma or 4 tails king goku. Also what about the hand held games that boruto plays. I could’ve be sworn I read something about a dragon. Maybe it was a piece of boruto’ gear or one of the enemies he was fighting with shikadai and inojin. Still I’m looking forward to learning more about this dragon king and what exactly is toneri gonna do for the next 10k years.
As toneri’ body turns into a shimmering crystal, urashiki leaps off moon’ surface and says, ‘All right. Time for me to reel in a big catch.’ Almost like it’s his time to prove himself to his clan. We can obviously assume he means to achieve the same thing as momoshiki and kinshiki, to finsh what kaguya started to collect all chakra a turn them into either a fruit or pills.
Toneri still being crystallized scream at urashiki telling him ‘stop!’ and ‘don’t’, right after he said it he was fully frozen. Then while frozen we here his thought as he says boruto still isn’t ready, he’s not strong enough right now. And interestingly enough the next scene takes us back down to the planet and shows us boruto stopping in his tracks and staring up at the visible moon and holding his eye. He clearly senses something.
————————————————? ?� �————
That’s the entire scene. I’m gonna do some more digging to figure out how those games tie into the story. I’m almost sure I read something about a dragon in reference to his hand held game.
Was it ever established if hagromo and hamura are considered main or side branch of the ohsutsuki clan?
Did y’all spot anything else from this scene? share you thoughts or findings.
Isn’t there any way to look up time freeze? Is it based on anything we know?
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