Were Indra and Ashura equals.

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Indra fought alone Ashura had people that gave him chakra and help to defeat Indra

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This is what I' was talkinG' abouT.
 
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^This. Ashura’s own power (without help) never equaled Indra’s until Hagoromo bestowed his power upon Ashura.

Im not sure why is so hard for the people to understand what happened in the manga?
 

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Indra fought alone Ashura had people that gave him chakra and help to defeat Indra

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This was before Ashura trained hard and awakened his true power (RSM).
You can see Ashura's RSM Avatar vs Indra's Perfect Sasuno'o in the manga (one panel). This was one-on-one battle.
 
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This was before Ashura trained hard and awakened his true power (RSM).
You can see Ashura's RSM Avatar vs Indra's Perfect Sasuno'o in the manga (one panel). This was one-on-one battle.

Ok, but somehow this manga doesnt make sense. According to anime - even if its filler, the same people were standing behind Ashura and gave him power to equal Indra just like in the manga image
 

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Ok, but somehow this manga doesnt make sense. According to anime - even if its filler, the same people were standing behind Ashura and gave him power to equal Indra just like in the manga image

Facts.
 

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Originally, no. After Ashura got his powers, yes.
 

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No. Kishis always portrayed that Ashura and his descendants>>>>>>>>Indra.
 

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This question is asked redundantly.

No they weren't equal.They only became equal when Hagoromo transfered his Ninshuu power which is RSM + he had the help of his clansmen of Senjus whereas Indra was given zero power + no outside helP.AsurA's main theme is recieval of Help from his brothers through the power of 'love'/somE kind of similar asspull powerup which is the exact same theme the Orange haired blue pig prophecy boy is using to solo his outclassed enemies.And that orange haired little BS boy's housewife, who is pretty literally trashfeatless.

Much anger, I sense in you
 

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Ok, but somehow this manga doesnt make sense. According to anime - even if its filler, the same people were standing behind Ashura and gave him power to equal Indra just like in the manga image

Facts. Ashura descendants use the power of friendship and cooperation.
 

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Their fight ended in a tie didn't it? However, Ashura only got as strong as Indra through the help of others like Naruto w/Kurama.
 

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The manga states he obtained a power that rivaled Indra by working hard. Then later it states that Hagoromo gave RSM to him.

So either Hagormo did not give him rsm, or Indra was that much of a badass take on his brother despite him having it.

Not enough detail...

1-Ashura may have matched 3 tomoe Sharingan Indra...then got power from Hagoromo. With Indra getting a Mangekyu enhancement do to butt hurt later. Assuming in this case Indra was born with Rikudou Chakra.

2-Hagoromo only made Ashura sect leader and didn't power him up in anyway. Since he was against concentrating power in a single individual.

3-Ashura wasn't a Sage...so, he didn't gain Rsm.
 

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Yea after Ashura trained and Hagoromo gave Ashura power they killed each other.

Didn't Hagoromo already confirm that when he said Ashura awakened bodily powers rivaling his brother's.

He did but it's not the Six path Sage mode. He said that the power he gave to Naruto and Sasuke is the very same thing he gave to Ashura.

This. The only thing I believe Hago gave to Ashura is leadership over Ninshu. Not power to take on Indra.

Well there are two options.

Either Indra gained a power up after Hagoromo gave Ashura power. As Pre-power up ashura = Indra.

Or

The "power" hagoromo gave him wasn't the type of power that could be used in battle.




It's spelled as Asura (Asura Ōtsutsuki) here, not Ashura. That's an unrelated word.
 
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Databook states that the difference in power between hashirama and madara was ‘paper thin’. Guidebook states Naruto and Sasuke are equals. I’d be genuinely surprised if I couldn’t find similar evidence for Indra and ashura.
 
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