[VS] oven vs jinbei

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Ovens wins. Idk what diff but I see Oven winning.

Sparking Valkyrie, one of the most brutal attack to debut in this arc failed to put down Oven so I dont know what the hell Jinbei do.
 

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Jinbei is on Doflamingo's tier group so of course JInbei>Oven. The reason why he couldn't do anything is because they were on a ship.
After Ichiji just one-shot him, it became clear that he's not commander level. Even Sanji at base speedblitzed kicked his face, and he didn't even notice.
JInbei has dealt with devil fruit powers that are hotter and that's Ace. Oven loses in an actual fight.
 

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I always get a bit disappointed how quick and hard a lot of people jump on new intro's. Just cause he can heat a large chunk of ocean y'all act like that's an instant K.O. against Jinbei as if he can only fight in the ocean.
 

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Jinbei is on Doflamingo's tier group so of course JInbei>Oven. The reason why he couldn't do anything is because they were on a ship.
After Ichiji just one-shot him, it became clear that he's not commander level. Even Sanji at base speedblitzed kicked his face, and he didn't even notice.
JInbei has dealt with devil fruit powers that are hotter and that's Ace. Oven loses in an actual fight.
Nah he tanked that shit, he's walking with a hole in his chest, and no diffd ichiji right after, and he no diffd pekoms mid sulong form

Still not saying oven wins, but oven is almost at first commander level.

I think big mom's children are almost on a tier of there own in between normal first mates and admiral. (Cracker, daifuku, oven, katakuri) not quite above first commanders but almost.
 
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I always get a bit disappointed how quick and hard a lot of people jump on new intro's. Just cause he can heat a large chunk of ocean y'all act like that's an instant K.O. against Jinbei as if he can only fight in the ocean.
Show where someone said he can instant ko jinbei cause no one ever said that, no one said even if jinbei was in water it would be a instant ko only you did
 

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Show where someone said he can instant ko jinbei cause no one ever said that, no one said even if jinbei was in water it would be a instant ko only you did
Hence the phrase act like. The way most of the oven voters(the other 3 in this thread besides you) have portrayed it here is as a roll for Oven or at least that's how I took it since they didn't bother to give Jinbei any credit in their post.
 

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Nah he tanked that shit, he's walking with a hole in his chest, and no diffd ichiji right after, and he no diffd pekoms mid sulong form
He didn’t beat Ichiji right after (I think, might be wrong) but the fact of the matter is that he had a hole in his chest. If that was Dofy, Jinbei, Dogtooth, Cracker, it even Smoothie they would be walking away undamaged.
Still not saying oven wins, but oven is almost at first commander level.

I think big mom's children are almost on a tier of there own in between normal first mates and admiral. (Cracker, daifuku, oven, katakuri) not quite above first commanders but almost.
Oven is a minister in the Big mam crew and the commanders are on a different level than all of the ministers. I understand that Perspero, Daifuku, and Oven are the strongest ministers but Snack, Cracker, and Smoothie are a tier above the ministers and that’s the level Jinbei is in.

I have the top 3 ministers slightly above Vice Admiral level
 

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He didn’t beat Ichiji right after (I think, might be wrong) but the fact of the matter is that he had a hole in his chest. If that was Dofy, Jinbei, Dogtooth, Cracker, it even Smoothie they would be walking away undamaged.

Oven is a minister in the Big mam crew and the commanders are on a different level than all of the ministers. I understand that Perspero, Daifuku, and Oven are the strongest ministers but Snack, Cracker, and Smoothie are a tier above the ministers and that’s the level Jinbei is in.

I have the top 3 ministers slightly above Vice Admiral level
Oven and daifuku and katakuri are already confirmed > the rest of the crew

Big mom doesn't make the strongest ones commanders snack is the perfect example he lost and got bounced

And you don't know if they would be walking away undamaged? Show me where they got hit by ichijis attack? And oven who did win right after, walked around with a hole in his chest no diffd the sun pirates all after no diffing pekoms. Like I said I don't think he would win but oven is same tier as jinbei and doffy
 
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