[Predictions] Naruto Manga 507 Discussion and 508 Predictions

[kisamexRocks]

Something I`m a little confused about. Did he Bite off his tongue or did he just bite it?

Because there is a hugh different in that fact. If he bit it off then he won`t be able to talk anymore(at least not very well), but if he just bit his own tongue so that he started bleeding, then it`s just a wound that can be healed over time.

Not that important, but thought i would mention it anyway

He just bit it, i think the spoiler went a little overboard. Otherwise he would have spit it out right? Plus he wouldn't die if he just bit off his tongue, you would be relatively fine, happens in real life, people lose their tongues all the time some without medical treatment others with. The way you can die is if you received an infection and it spread and became serious, then you can die from biting your tongue off.

Forgot to mention that this chapter proves that databooks are crap... According to the Databooks, Kisame>Gai... I could use one of my old statements to back this up, but I won't.

All of their fights were unfair, Kisame was limited to chakra and abilities or out numbered. Plus Gai said that that attack is an instant kill, Kisame was hit by it and he survived. But too settle it they need to fight 1v1 both at 100%.

 

[BuShMaN]

but remember the pain invasion. ino´s dad was able to get informations about pain out of a dead body. so i think it would be useless if kisame commits suicide, except he has some self-destruction technique like deidara or danzo. i would rather see ksiame get away maybe with madaras help...

The body from which Inoichi got the information about pain wasn't dead... That ninja was captured alive by Jiraiya...

 

[BuShMaN]

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KAME-HAME-HA!!

I remembered that to, when I read this page...

 

[OopsWrongHole]

I am not sure so I am writing this but I sort of believe Madara & Tobi are not the same person now only because this is where I'm confused

Kisame back in his past looked like he was in his late 20s?
Was there an actual date to when it was showing his past because
When Tobi went against 4th Hokage he had short hair
Which was 16 years ago

At the Kages summit that Mizukage said that the previous Mizukage was being controlled so it couldn't of been that long ago because the current Mizukage is still quite young

So this is the bit I'm confused
Was the battle between the 4th and Tobi before or after when Madara first met Kisame?

Because if it was after the current time of Madara reveals to Kisame the first time his Madara then I can understand him having short hair when he went up against the 4th Hokage

But if it was before Madara reveals to Kisame he is Madara then how is that possible because he has long hair then?

That shisue guy or however it is spelt, Danzo had one of his eyes, what happened to his other eye? Could that be Tobi current sharingan he is using?

 

[Alkad]

All of their fights were unfair, Kisame was limited to chakra and abilities or out numbered.

Luckily

 

[Bigjo56]

I am not sure so I am writing this but I sort of believe Madara & Tobi are not the same person now only because this is where I'm confused

Kisame back in his past looked like he was in his late 20s?
Was there an actual date to when it was showing his past because
When Tobi went against 4th Hokage he had short hair
Which was 16 years ago

At the Kages summit that Mizukage said that the previous Mizukage was being controlled so it couldn't of been that long ago because the current Mizukage is still quite young

So this is the bit I'm confused
Was the battle between the 4th and Tobi before or after when Madara first met Kisame?

Because if it was after the current time of Madara reveals to Kisame the first time his Madara then I can understand him having short hair when he went up against the 4th Hokage

But if it was before Madara reveals to Kisame he is Madara then how is that possible because he has long hair then?

That shisue guy or however it is spelt, Danzo had one of his eyes, what happened to his other eye? Could that be Tobi current sharingan he is using?

WTH

 

[Mystikk]

He just bit it, i think the spoiler went a little overboard. Otherwise he would have spit it out right? Plus he wouldn't die if he just bit off his tongue, you would be relatively fine, happens in real life, people lose their tongues all the time some without medical treatment others with. The way you can die is if you received an infection and it spread and became serious, then you can die from biting your tongue off.




All of their fights were unfair, Kisame was limited to chakra and abilities or out numbered. Plus Gai said that that attack is an instant kill, Kisame was hit by it and he survived. But too settle it they need to fight 1v1 both at 100%.

Yes I agree the fights were rigged alittle ... however, when they first fought they were both at 100% but it was too many ninja involved ... itachi, kakashi, kurenai, asuma.. an leafs reinforcements were coming too so they couldn't really fight.


The second time they fought kisame only had 30% of his chakra .. but he had the location advantage.. an gai couldn't fight him how he wanted because he had to save his team.


This time they both were kinda at full.. because the water revitalizes kisame's strength/chakra... an kisame again had a location advantage ... underwater an he's a water/mist ninja... so you could say they were both at 100% gai jus hit kisame with a move he's never seen before and it worked.

 

[nozser]

I think Kisame's arm twitched as he wanted to grab Samehada.
It was either out of habit or he was calling for it. On next chapter, i think we are going to see Samehada once more. We will see if he will come to Kisame or stay with Killer Bee.

If it comes back to Kisame, he may use it to fight or escape or to commit suicide using the sword. Maybe Madara will pop there and save him ? Or maybe it was just a twitch.

Totaly agree, he must force Samehada to do his bidding 'muha xd haha'

maybe he will force a transfermation and try to escape, then might guy uses 8th gate to kill him awesome stuff !

Just gets better and better each week, always an awesome cliffhanger O.O

 

[kisamexRocks]

I am not sure so I am writing this but I sort of believe Madara & Tobi are not the same person now only because this is where I'm confused

Kisame back in his past looked like he was in his late 20s?
Was there an actual date to when it was showing his past because
When Tobi went against 4th Hokage he had short hair
Which was 16 years ago

At the Kages summit that Mizukage said that the previous Mizukage was being controlled so it couldn't of been that long ago because the current Mizukage is still quite young

So this is the bit I'm confused
Was the battle between the 4th and Tobi before or after when Madara first met Kisame?

Because if it was after the current time of Madara reveals to Kisame the first time his Madara then I can understand him having short hair when he went up against the 4th Hokage

But if it was before Madara reveals to Kisame he is Madara then how is that possible because he has long hair then?

That shisue guy or however it is spelt, Danzo had one of his eyes, what happened to his other eye? Could that be Tobi current sharingan he is using?

The current Mizukage is in her 30's.

Madara attacked Minato/Konoha 16 years ago and this was BEFORE he met and talked with Kisame. Madara probably has his hair grow pretty quick. so I don't know, Jiriaya's hair grew pretty long when he met Nagato. Itachis got longer etc. His hair grows big, meets Kisame, wants to start Akatsuki, got a haircut so people wouldn't recognize him as being tobi. Etc. Easy stuff. Itachi met Madara when he had long hair.

 

[Hungry Demon Path]

Oh, look at that naruto and killer bee are suddenly ok now smh lol good chapter tho..I wonder who in japan makes killer bee's raps? sounds like vanilla ice wrote them haha

I like how kishi got everyones hopes up about someone being killed this chapter. Everyone thought it would be guy or kisame but it was his comrads instead. Also, I believe the body madara is using is actually uchiha shisui's which i have proof on.

He prob lost his other sharigan when he fought the first hokage. During that fought he prob used izangi and escaped; therefore losing his left eye.

But thinking about it even more, maybe madara knows the mind transfer tech just like orochimaru and is waiting to gain sasukes body and sharigan.

Bro.... there was no proof in there whatsoever. Believe, probably, and maybe is not certain and not in evidence.

 

[maldoror]

Forgot to mention that this chapter proves that databooks are crap... According to the Databooks, Kisame>Gai... I could use one of my old statements to back this up, but I won't.

Huh ? A battle is not two simple numbers clashing.

 

[Regulus]

The body from which Inoichi got the information about pain wasn't dead... That ninja was captured alive by Jiraiya...

Pain doesn't use living bodies, the body was dead before it was captured

 

[silenceofthelambs]

The current Mizukage is in her 30's.

Madara attacked Minato/Konoha 16 years ago and this was BEFORE he met and talked with Kisame. Madara probably has his hair grow pretty quick. so I don't know, Jiriaya's hair grew pretty long when he met Nagato. Itachis got longer etc. His hair grows big, meets Kisame, wants to start Akatsuki, got a haircut so people wouldn't recognize him as being tobi. Etc. Easy stuff. Itachi met Madara when he had long hair.

I actually think it's the other way around. Madara needed to remain hidden for the creation of Akatsuki, and I don't think he would just return to Konoha making his presence known again when he is so concerned with keeping his identity safe. Though there is no definite proof I can provide, in my opinion Madara first met with Kisame, then extracted the Nine-Tailed Fox from Kushina, using it to attack Konoha, and then met Itachi, as this part of the timeline is clear.

 

[mjtuvok]

I am not sure so I am writing this but I sort of believe Madara & Tobi are not the same person now only because this is where I'm confused

Kisame back in his past looked like he was in his late 20s?
Was there an actual date to when it was showing his past because
When Tobi went against 4th Hokage he had short hair
Which was 16 years ago

At the Kages summit that Mizukage said that the previous Mizukage was being controlled so it couldn't of been that long ago because the current Mizukage is still quite young

So this is the bit I'm confused
Was the battle between the 4th and Tobi before or after when Madara first met Kisame?

Because if it was after the current time of Madara reveals to Kisame the first time his Madara then I can understand him having short hair when he went up against the 4th Hokage

But if it was before Madara reveals to Kisame he is Madara then how is that possible because he has long hair then?

That shisue guy or however it is spelt, Danzo had one of his eyes, what happened to his other eye? Could that be Tobi current sharingan he is using?

sorry to burst your bubble of intuitive thoughts...however I must point out that your premise is on shaky ground....meaning if you base your assumptions on long hair or short hair you have no leg to stand on before during or after any event relative to this manga series. NO ONE CAN SAY IF MADARA HAIR IS LONG OR SHORT AT ANY GIVEN TIMES PROVES OR DISPROVES ANYTHING. He could have just gotten a hair cut and then let it grow back after a year or two. He could have use a HAIR GROWING JUTSU TO MAKE IT GROW QUICKLY. Please dont base anything on Madara's hair....

 

[mjtuvok]

Actually we know that Madara showed his face twice to Kisame at first the first time he showed himself as the controller of the 4th Mizukage we were going to see Madara's face that Kisame saw but it was cut off by Kisame biting his own tongue. And the second time when we got to know that Tobi is Uchiha Madara and he revealed himself to Kisame that he was deceiving the entire Akatsuki the whole time except Pain and Konan. So Kisame saw Madara's face twice and from what it looks like now I am almost quite certain that Tobi is Madara. But then again you can talk about the slight chance that he might not be Madara yes so to be 100% sure we have to wait for the day when Tobi removes his mask. But after reading this chapter I am almost sure that Tobi is Madara.

FINALLY SOME SANE AND RATIONAL THINKING

WELL SAID... I am certain that TOBI is Madara, it is the most logical to the overall theme and what Naruto has to accomplish to be a "BIGGER BADASS THAN THE 4TH HKGE HIS FATHER"

 

[mjtuvok]

but wich reason should obito have to destroy or slave the complete ninja world??? O.O

OHHHKKKKK...YOU totally lost me there. I was never saying obito would ever have a reason to do either. my point was that suggesting obito and tobi are the same is ludacris, ridiculous, nonsense.

 

[Yukimaru Yoshi]

Bro.... there was no proof in there whatsoever. Believe, probably, and maybe is not certain and not in evidence.

I have proof of it but didn't want to put it in a thread like this.

 

[kisamexRocks]

Pain doesn't use living bodies, the body was dead before it was captured

He meant the ninja that was delivering the dead bodies to Pain, the one with the mustache and beard thing. A living person. This guy ->

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I actually think it's the other way around. Madara needed to remain hidden for the creation of Akatsuki, and I don't think he would just return to Konoha making his presence known again when he is so concerned with keeping his identity safe. Though there is no definite proof I can provide, in my opinion Madara first met with Kisame, then extracted the Nine-Tailed Fox from Kushina, using it to attack Konoha, and then met Itachi, as this part of the timeline is clear.

Well I think the Kisame thign was first because he had long hair then he attacked Konoha, since the Mask is different, I am not sure anymore you know? First he meets Kisame and he has long hair but most likely the same mask, then Itachi meets Madara and he has the same mask, attacks Konoha when itachi was like 4 or something and he has a different mask. SO i think it's Kisame - Konoha attack - Itachi. But i am not sure why the mask changes, now this is getting rly confusing.

 

[Byakugan power]

Wow another great chapter i always rate every chapter 5 no matter what and to those who rates it 1 like seriously whatta efffff lol.
Anyway Gai sensei is the man ahahah finally he showed what he can really do!!!! amazing simply amazing.

About Tobi.... long story!!! We NEED TO SEE HIS FACE FOR GODS SAKE
I cant allow myselft to beleive that he is Madara I just cant beleive it. So far what evidence do we have that supports the fact that Tobi=Madara
1). Sharingan
2). Ability to control 9arms oh I mean 9 tails sorry!!
3). Knows all Uchiha background
4). Called himself madara like many times

Well here are the facts that make me suspicious!!!
1). his face identity remains unknown
2). kabuto twice
a. "you go by Madara these days"!!
b. the coffin ( I beleive its madaras corpse inside).
3). Finally its from my view point. I just cant picture Madara acting like Tobi did at the beginning I cannot see all great and proud Uchiha act that way even for depception
4). Did Zetsu ever called Tobi madara???? I may be wrong but I never saw it in manga. I think zetsu is the closest character to Tobi and usuaully the person closest to you will call you by your actual name!!!

So yeah thats what I think, please dont hate me for this just expressing my thoughts.


As for prediction: kisame dies and everyone leaves the island
and in near future Sasuke will use his new powers to get 8arms ups I mean tails!!!!
See ya friends

 

[Akatsuki leader]

Just like dragonball GT....

i think this hinata gonna kill naruto....

WELL WHHHAT DOU YU THINK NARUHINA FANS DU YU LIKE the pic??????

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