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<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/goto/post?id=21724129" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-21724129">super michael said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent"> In filler we have Kakashi using Ice element and even Fire element and we know neither is true. </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink"><a>Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote>In filler Kakashi was using Sharingan ever since he was a kid without any struggle while against Zabuza he fall unconsciousness after just one battle</div>
 

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<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/goto/post?id=21724136" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-21724136">I am all alone said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent"> I guess the Akatsuki are good guys and the real Tobi had the Byakugan. The retcon is real! </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink"><a>Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote>Hahahahahahahaa , yoo... but i thought this time you will bash me some more... but yeah! lol</div>
 

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An animation studio will do whatever they want even if it breaks continuity or not. This is so obvious with Naruto fillers as it is with Boruto and Kishimoto throwing in some ideas means nothing, we don't even know what it was, so the burden of proof is on you.

Contradict the Manga, contradict the Databook with proper evidence. A translated interview by some fan means nothing. It is not even the fan translating, it is how one can take this claim posted on the internet and take it for granted but one can't expect you to understand this.


what is next? Indra invented the Chidori?

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this isn't even chidori
 

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<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/goto/post?id=21724133" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-21724133">UnderTheRedHood said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent"> In filler Kakashi was using Sharingan ever since he was a kid without any struggle while against Zabuza he fall unconsciousness after just one battle </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink"><a>Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote> <blockquote class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/goto/post?id=21724136" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-21724136">I am all alone said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent"> I guess the Akatsuki are good guys and the real Tobi had the Byakugan. The retcon is real! </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink"><a>Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote> <blockquote class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/goto/post?id=21724138" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-21724138">UnderTheRedHood said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent"> Hahahahahahahaa , yoo... but i thought this time you will bash me some more... but yeah! lol </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink"><a>Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote>losers. 123canon clearly states this is canon so its cannon - now get lost</div>
 
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It’s a filler arc, BUT just to play along cause I’m bored; they’re not the same regardless and minato is still the inventor regardless. It literally just kinda looks like one. I’ve never seen a rasengan with lil rasengans INSIDE of it. Even by your own logic it’s not a rasengan. For ex. Kakashi created chidori right? But it sure looks and works a lot like a 4 finger hell stab. You wouldn’t say the 3rd raikage created chidori cause he had something that looked identical before right? Well there you go
 

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well is is mentioned that he was the one who created ninjutsu . just sayin
So Indra also invented the Rasengan? Or it was Ashura? Make up your mind man. If Indra created Ninjutsu, as opposed to Ninshu, then he also created the Rasengan and Ashura is just copying it? No?

The inconsistency is real.

By the way, the opposing movement of Hagoromo's Ninshu is Ninjutsu. There is more to it than basic interpretation but again, I am talking with you, so i can't expect much.
 

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So Indra also invented the Rasengan? Or it was Ashura? Make up your mind man. If Indra created Ninjutsu, as opposed to Ninshu, then he also created the Rasengan and Ashura is just copying it? No?

The inconsistency is real.

By the way, the opposing movement of Hagoromo's Ninshu is Ninjutsu. There is more to it than basic interpretation but again, I am talking with you, so i can't expect much.
ugghhh stop quoting me
 

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So Indra also invented the Rasengan? Or it was Ashura? Make up your mind man. If Indra created Ninjutsu, as opposed to Ninshu, then he also created the Rasengan and Ashura is just copying it? No?

The inconsistency is real.

By the way, the opposing movement of Hagoromo's Ninshu is Ninjutsu. There is more to it than basic interpretation but again, I am talking with you, so i can't expect much.
The anime also says Hagoromo awakened the Mangekyou Sharingan by fatally wounding Hamura when he was brainwashed by Kaguya :lmao:
 
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While at bold this is another mistake by the manga or anime - sometimes chidori is chakra ball, and sometimes are just fingers stab as you mentioned
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Not so much a ball but I totally get what your saying it is used for more than just stabbing, but only by sasuke really. I was just using it I make a point
 

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My final point is a manga scan proof:

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The tbb is a form of rasengan . you can see indra here using them in this MANGA CANON scan.

thank you for your time see ya!
What changed your mind, OP?
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Idk if you actually believe this is proof or if you're jut clinging to this persona but......that's not proof.

OT: Kishi's retconned before so it's not impossible. Minato had made FTG originally(fairly certain) then turns out it was Tobirama. Also Edo Tensei was pretty much implied to be Oro's jutsu until guess what...Tobirama.
 

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While at bold this is another mistake by the manga or anime - sometimes chidori is chakra ball, and sometimes are just fingers stab as you mentioned
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Chidori as sphere-shaped raiton was only shown in part 1 anime and it's an animation mistake which was later corrected in part 2. In manga chidori was never portrayed like that.
 
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