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People think that minato was the one who invented the rasengan but according to ashura indra arc ashura was the one to invent it before him . first proof with pic:

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Now let's carry on. people think that this arc is filler . now to counter this i have this :

Translation from the interview:

Hayato Date:
When the 4th Ninja War began on TV, I never thought of how far Kishimoto's Manga continues for. As I have mentioned, TV cannot overtake Manga episode, . I asked Kishimoto many questions about the Kaguya/Indra/Asura arc too. When Kaguya/Indra/Asura arc is over, Naruto will come back to the Manga episode. It was a long way for 14 years.... The work has not been finished yet. But successive episode directors are coming back at the last chapter. Don't miss it!



It sounds like the good directors will indeed return for the final episodes of Shippuden

And also as you can see, he says he asked Kishimoto questions about this filler currently being mixed into the Kaguya arc. So some of the ideas in these filler episodes did come from Kishimoto.
okay now that i proved the arc is canon let's move to the next point.

people will say it is said minato invented the rasengan yes that's true in HIS time/era. think about it how can minato know someone from 1000 years ago invented it before him? According to minato's knowledge he was the one who invented the rasengan and passed that thought to the next generations. but turns out it was false ashura was the one.

My final point is a manga scan proof:

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The tbb is a form of rasengan . you can see indra here using them in this MANGA CANON scan.

thank you for your time see ya!
 

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No matter how you spin it, its still Filler to me.
1. Still filler, you can't prove the idea of Ashura using a Rasengan-esque technique in particular came from Kishi
2. Not a Rasengan
Translation from the interview:

Hayato Date:
When the 4th Ninja War began on TV, I never thought of how far Kishimoto's Manga continues for. As I have mentioned, TV cannot overtake Manga episode, . I asked Kishimoto many questions about the Kaguya/Indra/Asura arc too. When Kaguya/Indra/Asura arc is over, Naruto will come back to the Manga episode. It was a long way for 14 years.... The work has not been finished yet. But successive episode directors are coming back at the last chapter. Don't miss it!



It sounds like the good directors will indeed return for the final episodes of Shippuden

And also as you can see, he says he asked Kishimoto questions about this filler currently being mixed into the Kaguya arc. So some of the ideas in these filler episodes did come from Kishimoto.
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False according to Kakashi. Minato created it. Not Ashura, so stop relying on filler :coffee:

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"Rasengan was originally a jutsu that the fourth hokage had developed."
 

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you know I can write a fanfic about Naruto, using Naruto characters and abilities and basically keeping everything as is just minor tweaking and still claim that "some ideas came from Kishimoto"

TBH this filler episode is the big eye opener.

Indra and Ashura were stupid characters that were derived from Naruto and Sasuke (meaning that Sasuke and Naruto did not take after them but rather they took after Sasuke and Naruto)

This is the same with the Rikudou Sennin (before he was ever Hagoromo and there ever was Hamura).
This is why Hagoromo resembles Naruto more instead of Hamura and why their signs (moon and sun) are opposites.

Hagoromo was the elder (meaning Yin or moon). Elder siblings are normally the ones with the eyes (Uchiha and Hyuga)
Yin is the symbol of imagination or spiritual. Hagoromo was the elder and Sasuke is older than Naruto. He also had rinnegan before Hamura had tenseigan. Hamura has the chakra mode while Hagoromo had sage mode. We never saw Obito and Madara exhibit any signs of using chakra mode. Hamura SHOULD be Yang and Hagoromo Yin. Hagoromo should resemble Sasuke and Naruto resembling Hamura. The signs that they have should be opposite, having Hagoromo carry Yin while Hamura carry Yang.


All these "fanfic" that I just mentioned above is taken from Kishimoto's work. I can claim that these ideas came from Kishimoto.
 
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False according to Kakashi. Minato created it. Not Ashura, so stop relying on filler :coffee:

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"Rasengan was originally a jutsu that the fourth hokage had developed."
People will say it is said minato invented the rasengan yes that's true in HIS time/era. think about it how can minato know someone from 1000 years ago invented it before him? According to minato's knowledge he was the one who invented the rasengan and passed that thought to the next generations. but turns out it was false ashura was the one.
 

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Itachi says there are only 3 Uchiha that had MS and that Madara was the first ever to reach MS. There record of Madara and Izuna being the first MS user ever, I wonder why there are no records of Indra being the first MS user.
 

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Madara says there are only 3 Uchiha that had MS and that Madara was the first ever to reach MS. There record of Madara and Izuna being the first MS user ever, I wonder why there are no records of Indra being the first MS user.
His history probably got lost over time. Only Madara seemed to figure it out, especially w/ BZ lurking about through the ages.
 

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What Logic you have. 123filler with his filler anime. Manga says Minato invented it, And that's all that matters.
People will say it is said minato invented the rasengan yes that's true in HIS time/era. think about it how can minato know someone from 1000 years ago invented it before him? According to minato's knowledge he was the one who invented the rasengan and passed that thought to the next generations. but turns out it was false ashura was the one.
 

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People will say it is said minato invented the rasengan yes that's true in HIS time/era. think about it how can minato know someone from 1000 years ago invented it before him? According to minato's knowledge he was the one who invented the rasengan and passed that thought to the next generations. but turns out it was false ashura was the one.
You shouldn't take filler too serious man. You already seem to have been infected with its disease.
 

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Translation from the interview:

...TV cannot overtake Manga episode

...filler currently

...filler episodes
It doesn't matter if Kishimoto threw in some stuff, it doesn't make it canon. The Manga is the authors canon. You only speak nonsense. The Databook and the Manga are enough.



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The tbb is a form of rasengan . you can see indra here using them in this MANGA CANON scan.

thank you for your time see ya!
Its the other way around. The Rasengan was inspired in TBB's.
 
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