Does might make right?

[Yeah right]

We always hear this arguement.

Who is in favor of it?

Don’t they always lose?

Or in real life, they win?

Alright history buff, prove your points.

 

[Fountain]

right makes right

 

[FemmeFatale]

What is right?
Who are we to determine what makes something right.
Sure we have a moral compass and we should follow the path that promotes peace and understanding.

 

[Fountain]

What is right?

Right is right

Who are we to determine what makes something right.
Sure we have a moral compass and we should follow the path that promotes peace and understanding.

We're people, humans. And we have the capability to tell right from wrong and vise-versa.

 

[FemmeFatale]

Right is right



We're people, humans. And we have the capability to tell right from wrong and vise-versa.

But how do you know what right when you are left to choose?
Not all of us are blessed with a correct moral compass, you right may be someones wrong.

 

[Fountain]

But how do you know what right when you are left to choose?
Not all of us are blessed with a correct moral compass, you right may be someones wrong.

You've kind of answered it yourself, "Not all of us are blessed with a correct moral compass". Unfortunately some people don't know any better. They might think that what they're doing is right when it's not. If you are an intelligent person you will know what's right or wrong.

 

[Dreckerplayer]

But how do you know what right when you are left to choose?
Not all of us are blessed with a correct moral compass, you right may be someones wrong.

What's "necessary"...what's "fit"...

You've kind of answered it yourself, "Not all of us are blessed with a correct moral compass". Unfortunately some people don't know any better. They might think that what they're doing is right when it's not. If you are an intelligent person you will know what's right or wrong.

It's a thing called common sense. Something she may not have.

 

[Pumpkin Ninja]

You've kind of answered it yourself, "Not all of us are blessed with a correct moral compass". Unfortunately some people don't know any better. They might think that what they're doing is right when it's not. If you are an intelligent person you will know what's right or wrong.

Then why have all societies have different values of right and wrong? Why have even intelligent men in every society conformed to what they were taught as right and wrong? Why do people even in the same societies have difficulty coming to the same consensus? Certain things in terms of right and wrong feel almost universal but a lot of other things are very gray.

OT: In the sense that, those who have might, sort of spread their idea of right around, sure.

 

[Dreckerplayer]

Then why have all societies have different values of right and wrong? Why have even intelligent men in every society conformed to what they were taught as right and wrong? Why do people even in the same societies have difficulty coming to the same consensus? Certain things in terms of right and wrong feel almost universal but a lot of other things are very gray.

So this response tells me that you're not the type to "think for yourself", just conform to whatever, cause it's just there. There's no standing.

Just because one party says this, and someone else says something that contradicts it...doesn't mean that their isn't a LINEAR TRUTH to the situation. All those morals and principles are just "rule-based", and that's the problem. Selective thinkers who come from a place of "no where" with their views.

There's "outdated" doctrines...and there's a lot of that going on in a lot of societies influenced be selfish desires. Stop "considering" the unacceptable, it doesn't validate your point of view. Wrong is Wrong, Right is Right...the question is...who can "see" and who "knows better"?

It's like you're playing the "shell game" with information. By you replying with that response it makes me think that you're condoning of certain things...

 

[Pumpkin Ninja]

So this response tells me that you're not the type to "think for yourself", just conform to whatever, cause it's just there. There's no standing.

Just because one party says this, and someone else says something that contradicts it...doesn't mean that their isn't a LINEAR TRUTH to the situation. All those morals and principles are just "rule-based", and that's the problem. Selective thinkers who come from a place of "no where" with their views.

There's "outdated" doctrines...and there's a lot of that going on in a lot of societies influenced be selfish desires. Stop "considering" the unacceptable, it doesn't validate your point of view. Wrong is Wrong, Right is Right...the question is...who can "see" and who "knows better"?

It's like you're playing the "shell game" with information. By you replying with that response it makes me think that you're condoning of certain things...

No, I'm the type to admit the reality that what we view as right and wrong right now wouldn't be the same if we were born in a different time or place. Who's to say we even understand what is right? In time, it could turn out, that we are "wrong".

 

[Dreckerplayer]

No, I'm the type to admit the reality that what we view as right and wrong right now wouldn't be the same if we were born in a different time or place. Who's to say we even understand what is right? In time, it could turn out, that we are "wrong".

Absurd.

This only further entails that YOU don't know right from wrong, and cannot think for yourself. If you did, this conversation wouldn't have taken place.

The answers are in "cause & effect"...you did something, now as a result "this" takes place. If it leaves a negative impact, then common sense is, you stop doing it.

Think from a place of "Reasons why", not "This is what society says".You shouldn't be thinking like the rest of society, anyway. Think for yourself.


Do you think just because pedophilia is accepted in certain cultures, it still doesn't traumatize them or leave a huge negative impact?No, they're still taken against their will. Just a bunch of outdated doctrines, that are straight up selfish.

Just cause a society accepts it, doesn't make it right.It's still selfish and one-sided, regardless. You need to just think for yourself.

One might say it's right, one might say it's wrong, but at the end of the day, it still does the SAME THING.

Another example,

Society embraces christianity...but christianity is psychologically twisted, and opens doors to total mental confusion and a limited way of thinking.It's no good.

Sir, you stand for nothing, and will fall for anything. Just for being so much of an appeaser. On top of that, seemingly indecisive and probably don't know what you want.

 

[wanderingcactus]

"to the victor goes the spoils"

throughout history, when there are talks about conflicts such as war, we only ever hear the side of the victors and rarely the losers.

let's take the most recent one for example, hitler v stalin

we all know who both these people are and yet the most notorious of the two is the former, why?

because stalin, the latter, aided the allied forces against the axis power.

who committed far worse atrocities? both can argue but facts are facts and numbers are numbers.

stalin has a higher count than hitler yet the only people he condemned were mainly his own and the neighboring ones, the ones that were not of big interest to allied forces. so we do not see stalin as the bigger evil.

only in talks of the cold war were he ever the big baddie.

US committed serious crimes against humanity which lead to the decimation of several nations, most of which are still crippled by the corrupt puppet governments, this includes drug cartels and slave trade, that were implemented to create instability so that they may always depend on US power and communism will never take hold.

Then there is china and north korea, 2 nations that have complete disregard for human rights untouched by powerful nations.

one of which is due to their heavy reliance of cheap labour, because slavery is cheap.

who is right? it's whoever holds the most influence and money, aka the victors.

 

[Umari Senju]

It’s all relative. One man’s “right” is another man’s oppression. History is told by the victors so in that respect Might does make right

 

[Goetia]

I think people in general should try and aim at non-violent approaches and avoid conflict in general, but there are times when might is a necessity. Like military intervention by a nation-state, but that kind of thing has had severe consequences in the last couple decades. It should honestly be an absolute last resort, and nothing more.

 

[Callypigia]

If you're strong enough (physically, intellectually, or spiritually) you have the potential to define what is moral or ethical. It is culturally driven, and those with enough influence have the potential to change their micro or even macro culture.

 

[Goetia]

If you're strong enough (physically, intellectually, or spiritually) you have the potential to define what is moral or ethical. It is culturally driven, and those with enough influence have the potential to change their micro or even macro culture.

It's tough to enact that kind of change when the people of influence are pushing a fear-mongering narrative about a particular microculture that has spread throughout the world and become a part of various macrocultures. It doesn't help either when radicals become the poster-boys of an otherwise peaceful and civilised people.

 

[Central]

No. If we are speaking about the "general" idea of the history to be written by the victorious, then sure but, it's a biased statement.

Are we forced to abandon whatever was in our minds, what we cheerished after being defeated by whoever? It could have been kept from mouth to hear and so on, although people were forced in a way of life that probably caused them to forget, the one's that gave up their belief because of defeat are also to be blamed.