Kn0 Still moves and fights normally, he’s still nardo, just amped on speed and power. His moves are still pretty linear as far as how he fights and kimmi was waaaay out of those kids weight class. Drunk lee was unpredictable as f ck as even if you can read your opponent to the t, it does no good if he doesn’t even know what he’s about to do. That’s imo of course
Taijutsu skill and i believe striking speed bro :x3: Not quite similar but its the same as when Neji simply waltzes through a horde of Naruto clones without being tagged once.
Taijutsu skill and i believe striking speed bro :x3: Not quite similar but its the same as when Neji simply waltzes through a horde of Naruto clones without being tagged once.
OT: Lee has unpredictablity in his favor because Naruto was pretty linear back then and Kimimaro's taijutsu skill would also make the number of clones a non factor like Jinrou said. It's still hard to believe but I guess that's the best we have
Kn0 Still moves and fights normally, he’s still nardo, just amped on speed and power. His moves are still pretty linear as far as how he fights and kimmi was waaaay out of those kids weight class. Drunk lee was unpredictable as f ck as even if you can read your opponent to the t, it does no good if he doesn’t even know what he’s about to do. That’s imo of course
Yea but combat-wise Kn0 army shouldn't be easier to take on compared to Lee fresh from surgery. VOTE 2T Sasuke gets spanked by a single Kn0 no diff w/o a single clone. Kimi no diffs 1000 yet says base lee isn't gonna be as easy. For instance , clearly 2T Sasuke shouldn't be harder than a Kn0 army when he got wreked by 1. So Kimi wouldn't say Sasuke is harder than Kn0 army but says it to Lee.
How can base lee be harder than VOTE 2T Sasuke who is not only faster than him but has 2T?
Yea but combat-wise Kn0 army shouldn't be easier to take on compared to Lee fresh from surgery. VOTE 2T Sasuke gets spanked by a single Kn0 no diff w/o a single clone. Kimi no diffs 1000 yet says base lee isn't gonna be as easy. For instance , clearly 2T Sasuke shouldn't be harder than a Kn0 army when he got wreked by 1. So Kimi wouldn't say Sasuke is harder than Kn0 army but says it to Lee.
How can base lee be harder than VOTE 2T Sasuke who is not only faster than him but has 2T?
Taijutsu skill and i believe striking speed bro :x3: Not quite similar but its the same as when Neji simply waltzes through a horde of Naruto clones without being tagged once.
Skill is one thing , but pretty sure striking speed isn't a factor here. Kn0 is tiers faster in all aspects of striking speed compared to Lee fresh from surgery who mostly uses linear kicks. Skill itself isn't even that big of a factor when a clone army attacking from all sides should surpass the difficulty of fighting base Lee in taijutsu yet according to Kimi lee isn't as easy.
SRA Lee isn't even as fast as himself from the exams.
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CE2 Sasuke is already close to that speed. VOTE Sasuke got some level of stat boost after his CM2 body application to handle the power , which literally was enough to kill him. Add 2T Sharingan and he's faster in all aspects.
Naruto relied too much on Kage Bunshins and Kimimaro body was actually the perfect antidote due to his bones being hard as steel and indicated to pierce, so basically every single blow delivered by Kimimmaro was to kill. The guy could literally read Naruto's attacks, call it plot induced superiority.
This Lee fight is something else. Jinrou might be right 'tho, also Lee was quite unpredictable when he pulled the Drunken Master trump card.
Yea but combat-wise Kn0 army shouldn't be easier to take on compared to Lee fresh from surgery. VOTE 2T Sasuke gets spanked by a single Kn0 no diff w/o a single clone. Kimi no diffs 1000 yet says base lee isn't gonna be as easy. For instance , clearly 2T Sasuke shouldn't be harder than a Kn0 army when he got wreked by 1. So Kimi wouldn't say Sasuke is harder than Kn0 army but says it to Lee.
How can base lee be harder than VOTE 2T Sasuke who is not only faster than him but has 2T?
Yea no, the whole fresh out of surgery thing was a stretch. At best he should of been hurting the moment he sobered up, then at least we could say he was running on drunken adrenaline lol. If you notice though it isn’t really his speed that’s crazy, he really doesn’t go unweighted speed or ce sasuke speed or anything too crazy, it’s the flow of his movements that kept tripping up kimmi. Although you have a point that kn0 clones at those numbers should at least be more of a threat then lee. His clones back in pt had the durability of tissue paper iirc. This is gonna sound lame, especially with my ava, but drunken lee was kinda like a bargain ultra instinct. His body was reacting and moving without thinking to everything kimi did and acting accordingly. Gai implies he would of had to seriously injure him just to subdue him by himself. I dunno, on one hand it makes sense, but on the other it’s a bunch of partly kyuubi powered clones, they should have done better
Skill is one thing , but pretty sure striking speed isn't a factor here. Kn0 is tiers faster in all aspects of striking speed compared to Lee fresh from surgery who mostly uses linear kicks. Skill itself isn't even that big of a factor when a clone army attacking from all sides should surpass the difficulty of fighting base Lee in taijutsu yet according to Kimi lee isn't as easy.
SRA Lee isn't even as fast as himself from the exams.
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CE2 Sasuke is already close to that speed. VOTE Sasuke got some level of stat boost after his CM2 body application to handle the power , which literally was enough to kill him. Add 2T Sharingan and he's faster in all aspects.
The statement was base lee. Kimi said lee was "too direct" in base. Then says too unpredicatble + fast while drunk which shouldn't boost lee's speed aprt from the sense that Lee chains his attacks much faster than when he's sober , leading each attack into another without mental thought. Just instant reaction based on the enemy movements.
The statement was base lee. Kimi said lee was "too direct" in base. Then says too unpredicatble + fast while drunk which shouldn't boost lee's speed aprt from the sense that Lee chains his attacks much faster than when he's sober , leading each attack into another without mental thought. Just instant reaction based on the enemy movements.
I don't think drunken Lee should be better than an army of KN0 clones attacking simultaneously from every direction. Those clones were nerfed in favor of plot imo.
Yea no, the whole fresh out of surgery thing was a stretch. At best he should of been hurting the moment he sobered up, then at least we could say he was running on drunken adrenaline lol. If you notice though it isn’t really his speed that’s crazy, he really doesn’t go unweighted speed or ce sasuke speed or anything too crazy, it’s the flow of his movements that kept tripping up kimmi. Although you have a point that kn0 clones at those numbers should at least be more of a threat then lee. His clones back in pt had the durability of tissue paper iirc. This is gonna sound lame, especially with my ava, but drunken lee was kinda like a bargain ultra instinct. His body was reacting and moving without thinking to everything kimi did and acting accordingly. Gai implies he would of had to seriously injure him just to subdue him by himself. I dunno, on one hand it makes sense, but on the other it’s a bunch of partly kyuubi powered clones, they should have done better
Also i understand how Drunken lee works and share ur view on the ultra instinct comparison as back in the day due to this feat..
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I always figured that how the drunkness works , kinda like a SM which alters ur whole fighting style. Sucks that we only had one canon fight with low to no chance of seeing adult drunk lee but metal lee would be cool too. Drunk metal Vs the new gen simultaneously would make a great ep.
-But how can skill make base Lee harder than Kn0 Naruto to fight? Just doesn't make sense but i feel that it can make somehow.
Also i understand how Drunken lee works and share ur view on the ultra instinct comparison as back in the day due to this feat..
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I always figured that how the drunkness works , kinda like a SM which alters ur whole fighting style. Sucks that we only had one canon fight with low to no chance of seeing adult drunk lee but metal lee would be cool too. Drunk metal Vs the new gen simultaneously would make a great ep.
-But how can skill make base Lee harder than Kn0 Naruto to fight? Just doesn't make sense but i feel that it can make somehow.
CE Prelims Neji negs SRA Base lee tho so it wouldn't be a fight. Base lee isn't meant to fight base Neji.
The statement was base lee. Kimi said lee was "too direct" in base. Then says too unpredicatble + fast while drunk which shouldn't boost lee's speed aprt from the sense that Lee chains his attacks much faster than when he's sober , leading each attack into another without mental thought. Just instant reaction based on the enemy movements.
Lee mastered Ultra Instinct before Goku confirmed.
It all boils down to skill. If your speed cannot overwhelm your opponent, and your opponent is a taijutsu specialist, then you better run. Even though Lee's speed, in drunken or in base form, shouldn't be insanely above KN0 Naruto ( if it's above at all), his technique plays heavily on it.
Think of Dance Dance revolution or whatever. Does speed really matter if you always have to hit the same button over and over in the same rhythm? Nah, you can even do it with your eyes closed if you are good at the game. Now, you have to play a regular song , with arrows coming from everywhere (even if they come at a lower or equal speed).Hitting them is going to be a lot more harder than hitting the same key over and over. That's Naruto vs Lee.
