Can madara get out of tsuki? Remember when mads stabbed sasuke, he mentioned no one getting in the way, whether it be blood yada yada yada? Anyhow there’s a 50% chance he just meant an uchiha, but if he meant that sasuke is some kind of decendant in some kind of way would madara be able to get out of tsuki?
Nah I just read that page of itachi vs kakashi someone posted earlier and it got me thinking. Plus I see a few people claim itachi can take mads. It’s also pretty slow around here, so why not. If your asking which then just regular tsuki, as if mads and itachi where to fight
It’s possible he held back what he was doing to sasuke in tsuki, but sasuke still had to break it for the effect itachi was going for the whole fight no?
Madara would be immune to infinite tsukuyomi in the first place. Remember, the rinnegan makes you immune to it as shown by Sasuke. Madara also even has perfect susanoo (if that is even necessary), so he could block out the light with a rinnegan/perfect susanoo combo just like Sasuke did.
OT: Madara could easily break tsukuyomi if you ask me. If you are immune to infinite tsukuyomi, then I don't see why you wouldn't be able to break regular tsukuyomi (yes I know they are different jutsus, but still...)
People like to use Itachi's statement "Only someone from the same bloodline as me can break this jutsu" to hype Itachi, but Itachi was most likely just referring to the Uchiha clan when he said "the same blood line as me", and not specifically Fugaku's direct descendants/ancestors.
Anyway, I don't think Madara would get caught under tsukuyomi in the first place.
It’s possible he held back what he was doing to sasuke in tsuki, but sasuke still had to break it for the effect itachi was going for the whole fight no?
An Uchiha with MS/EMS can definitely break Tsukuyoumi. During their battle though, Itachi let Sasuke think he broke through the genjutsu. Itachi specifically told Sasuke to “Come to me when you have THESE eyes,” those of the MS. A 3T Sharingan is indefinitely inferior to a mangekyou sharingan. Either way, SumnNarutoRelated hit the nail on the head.
If itachi meant clan when he said ‘kekkei genkai’ or ‘bloodline’, then madara has a chance to cancel it. If itachi meant ‘immediate family’ when he said ‘kekkei genkai’ or ‘bloodline’ madara would likely not be able cancel it. It’s more plausible for itachi to mean clan instead of immediate family. So I guess madara has a decent chance to counter. The only problem is madaras doesn’t have any superior feats with genjutsu. Especially ems madara or prior.
Regardless, the fact remains that kakashi even with sharingan cant break tsukuyomi, so logically neither can nagato with rinnegan. The two of them don’t meet the requirements to counter tsukuyomi which itachi outright states that having dojutsu alone isn’t enough. So that debunks the alleged rinnegan resistant to all occular genjutsu claims. That is all.
If itachi meant clan when he said ‘kekkei genkai’ or ‘bloodline’, then madara has a chance to cancel it. If itachi meant ‘immediate family’ when he said ‘kekkei genkai’ or ‘bloodline’ madara would likely not be able cancel it. It’s more plausible for itachi to mean clan instead of immediate family. So I guess madara has a decent chance to counter. The only problem is madaras doesn’t have any superior feats with genjutsu. Especially ems madara or prior.
Regardless, the fact remains that kakashi even with sharingan cant break tsukuyomi, so logically neither can nagato with rinnegan. The two of them don’t meet the requirements to counter tsukuyomi which itachi outright states that having dojutsu alone isn’t enough. So that debunks the alleged rinnegan resistant to all occular genjutsu claims. That is all.
Madara has shown the ability to use Tsukuyoumi even with someone else’s 3T sharingan; he showed it to Obito. Fair to say that either way, they can both utilize it on one another.
Madara has shown the ability to use Tsukuyoumi even with someone else’s 3T sharingan; he showed it to Obito. Fair to say that either way, they can both utilize it on one another.
No where is madara credited as capable of tsukuyomi. He is however capable and credited with infinite Tsukuyomi. That’s what he used on obito when he showed him a ‘blank canvas’. He even went on to say that the same jutsu he used obito is what he plans to cast on the populace. We know that jutsu to be infinite tsukuyomi, not just tsukuyomi. They aren’t the same jutsu even though they work similarly.
Itachi’ genjutsu display exceeds that of madara’ ignoring IT.
No where is madara credited as capable of tsukuyomi. He is however capable and credited with infinite Tsukuyomi. That’s what he used on obito when he showed him a ‘blank canvas’. He even went on to say that the same jutsu he used obito is what he plans to cast on the populace. We know that jutsu to be infinite tsukuyomi, not just tsukuyomi. They aren’t the same jutsu even though they work similarly.
Itachi’ genjutsu display exceeds that of madara’ ignoring IT.
Lmfao are you serious? Madara literally casted the genjutsu on Obito minus the torture aspect. He can’t cast Infinite Tsukuyoumi without his Rinnegan and the Juubi’s Shinju Power. Hence, the saying “Those with the power of Rinne will awaken a new eye upon approaching the moon” or something like that. Anyway, it wasn’t the Infinite Tsukuyoumi variant, it was the standard Tskuyoumi version.
And either way, Madara can break and use standard Tskuyoumi. And if he did cast IT with someone else’s 3T sharingan (which he didn’t) he still dwarfs Itachi. So again, Madara > Itachi, sorry.
Lmfao are you serious? Madara literally casted the genjutsu on Obito minus the torture aspect. He can’t cast Infinite Tsukuyoumi without his Rinnegan and the Juubi’s Shinju Power. Hence, the saying “Those with the power of Rinne will awaken a new eye upon approaching the moon” or something like that. Anyway, it wasn’t the Infinite Tsukuyoumi variant, it was the standard Tskuyoumi version.
And either way, Madara can break and use standard Tskuyoumi. So again, Madara > Itachi, sorry.
Where did it say he used Infinite Tskuyoumi and if he did, where are Obito’s Rinnegan eyes? I’ll wait, everyone that had IT cast on them had Rinnegan eyes.
