Madara, Hashirama, Tobi, Nagato vs Itachi, Sakura, Sasuke, Kakashi, Gai, Minato, Mei

[Guntah]

Team 1 has two Juubi JInchuuriki. This by itself wins them the fight.

 

[Uverdore9]

Team 1 has two Juubi JInchuuriki. This by itself wins them the fight.

Gai with gates came close to beating madara, had it not been for regeneration.


BM minato + Gai + Kamui strategy can beat anyone bar one or two characters.

Team 2 is probably the most colorful team in history, had this match been animated, it'd the most spectacular event of em' all.


IT, mokuton, gudodama is countered effectively by strategies.

Genjutsu is viable option but we've three top illusion user who can break them out if they ever fall under one.

 

[Animegoin]

Which means you're officially accepting defeat? That you cannot win against me?

Lmfao you literally got destroyed here and spewed desperate fanfic excerpts. Read up.

 

[Guntah]

Gai with gates came close to beating madara, had it not been for regeneration.


BM minato + Gai + Kamui strategy can beat anyone bar one or two characters.

Team 2 is probably the most colorful team in history, had this match been animated, it'd the most spectacular event of em' all.


IT, mokuton, gudodama is countered effectively by strategies.

Genjutsu is viable option but we've three top illusion user who can break them out if they ever fall under one.

But they just can't win. Its impossible. Without Naruto and his Bijuu's chakra, taking the Juubi out of Madara or Obito will be damn near impossible. After all, both of them can recover from anything thrown at them. The three best options are either: Itachi sealing them with Totsuka, (Which will be very difficult for him to pull off) Sasuke sealing them inside a Chibaku Tensei, (Which I don't think would be enough to stop a Juubi Jin) or trapping them in the Kamui Dimension (Which won't work as long as Obito is around).

 

[Uverdore9]

Lmfao you literally got destroyed here and spewed desperate fanfic excerpts. Read up.

Link me the part where I got "destroyed".

But they just can't win. Its impossible. Without Naruto and his Bijuu's chakra, taking the Juubi out of Madara or Obito will be damn near impossible. After all, both of them can recover from anything thrown at them. The three best options are either: Itachi sealing them with Totsuka, (Which will be very difficult for him to pull off) Sasuke sealing them inside a Chibaku Tensei, (Which I don't think would be enough to stop a Juubi Jin) or trapping them in the Kamui Dimension (Which won't work as long as Obito is around).

When gai hit him with night guy, he said "you almost killed me".

But this time it wouldn't be "almost".

Remember minato can transfer bijuu chakra to heal gai's injuries from gates usage.

Gai can successfully land all of his hits with extra help from dms kakashi warping any intervention from obito.

Lee commented "the pain from opening the eight gates'd be unimaginable", this pain fortunately won't be inhibiting kyuubi chakra infused gai, he'll strike his move with full power, ensuring madara get's seriously injured without cure.

Remember madara said "I shouldn't let myself get hit by elephant cannon attack", he wouldn't be saying that if can survive a full powered gai's kicks would he?

Air cannon punch and night guy teleported together with minato'd end it for madara, Kakashi'd parry with obito if he intervenes the dimension to block the duo.

Nagato could summon gedo mazo, but it'll be destroyed by amaterasu since gedo mazo is the shell of jubi whereas eight tails was helpless before it.

Gudodama's are warped.

Hashirama's mokuton is reduced to limestone by lava and mist and powerful fire elements from mei.

Shinsuusenju is destroyed by ameno teleportation of PS chidori.

Golem and Mokuryuu is countered by kamui, Byakugo, speed(itachi, ftg minato, sakura have speed feats which enable them to dodge it.)

Hashirama's regeneration countered by totsuka sword, Tsukiyomi manipulates his atoms and reduces him to dust(it controls matter in tsukiyomi realm) in that realm, that way hashirama in real world'd die from the trauma and pain.

A gai with kyuubi chakra and eight gate cannon destroys perfect susano'o(madara said it was comparable to bijuu, yet bijuu madara came close to dying, which means perfect susano'O is getting demolished).

Kakashi has the advantage in direct combat: his kamui raikiri was hard for someone like kaguya at her full power to dodge, and that raikiri is intangible, kakashi said "I'll add kamui's power to this raikiri" which enables it to cut and stay intangible at the same time.

Obito's intangibility wouldn't work because kakashi has access to his dimension so he will have no choice but to get sliced.

Yata Mirror reflects PS blade, Kamui distortion, Gedo chains, back at them and respective users'll be injured by thier own attacks and obito'll be teleported into his dimension where kakashi will teleport minato who'll release flash tbb, point blank which'll mortally injure him, enough to vacate him from the match till other contenders have been defeated.

Also, there's nothing to say team 1 can break Sasuke's glance genjutsu which soloed all bijuus and sakura who is the most resistant to genjutsu in Naruto history.

Also sasuke with chidori blade can be teleported through kamui, and he can use ameno in sucession to strike the user in half, to where he he's send through kamui.


A teleported sakura with a direct punch could destroy them inside out, also, seeing she destroyed kaguya's horn with such power that she was pushed backwards even though she can walk and run in space like in ground like naruto effortlessly.

Same kaguya who absorbed tentails empowered herself more and more out-surpassing madara completely.

Madara's invisible wall is dealt with Kamui shuriken.

 

[Animegoin]

Link me the part where I got "destroyed".

Same thread that we’re on, start back on page 1 and read my first comment made here followed by the others all the way up until you make it back here again. You can thank me later.

 

[BenjerminGaye]

Madara solos. IT Forces sasuke to hide everyone under their wings then he can simply use world of trees, or a Juubi tbb to end it while they are defenseless.

 

[Uverdore9]

Same thread that we’re on, start back on page 1 and read my first comment made here followed by the others all the way up until you make it back here again. You can thank me later.

Your arguments were negated by me.

Madara solos. IT Forces sasuke to hide everyone under their wings then he can simply use world of trees, or a Juubi tbb to end it while they are defenseless.

A better option'd be yata mirror which can protect them from light at the same time deflect it back to madara and he will be under the genjutsu.

IT also takes a bit of prep, which can be utilized by gai to walk in the sky by using space steps and pressuring madara, not allowing him to pull it off.

 

[BlazingGig]

Prime Madara and Prime Obito are both Juubi Jinchurikis..They can potentially fodder bang the other team all by themselves..Sasuke and 8th Gate Gai are the only ones from the other team that might pose some kind of threat..Even Sasuke doesn't stand a chance against Dual Rinnegan + Rinnesharingan Juubi Jinchuriki Madara..He needed Naruto's help to fight Dual Rinnegan Juubidara..Add Juubito in the mix and both Sasuke and Gai go down..The rest just die in the cross fire or Hashirama deals with them all by himself..Borderline spite thread this one

 

[Uverdore9]

Prime Madara and Prime Obito are both Juubi Jinchurikis..They can potentially fodder bang the other team all by themselves..Sasuke and 8th Gate Gai are the only ones from the other team that might pose some kind of threat..Even Sasuke doesn't stand a chance against Dual Rinnegan + Rinnesharingan Juubi Jinchuriki Madara..He needed Naruto's help to fight Dual Rinnegan Juubidara..Add Juubito in the mix and both Sasuke and Gai go down..The rest just die in the cross fire or Hashirama deals with them all by himself..Borderline spite thread this one

How is it a spite thread when we've itachi and BM minato and DMS Kakashi and Sakura in the other team?

Yata reflects thier attacks, Totsuka seals them by cutting, Sakura can obliterate SS with her current feats(damaging a juubi jinchuuriki who absorbed the ten-tails and in her dimension where her enemies are powerless), BM minato teleports Night Guy on Obito and Madara they would be severely injured.


Genjutsu Tsukuyomi and alliance controlling one trapping all of team 1 at once.

IT repelled, Kamui countered by Raikiri Kamui which full power Kaguya couldn't defend and dodge, and even if the enemy defends, it can be intangible and go right through him. None of team 1 has a defense against this.

Madara's TSB and Juubito's TSB're teleported into other dimension, and since kakashi and obito has access to it at the same time, obito cannot summon it back because if he does, kakashi re-summons it into the kamui land and vice-versa.


Sakura's punch demolishes madara as a far stronger being's horn was broken.

PS chidori and indra arrow demolishes Obito and madara. Rinnegan genjutsu soloes them.

Ameno could help him slice them apart with chidori blade.

Golem, hotei, tree world are countered by chidori ps cross-fire, mei lava and mist, totsuka sealing, yata repelling which traps hashirama in his own wood constructs, Flash Tbb, Bijuu dama.

Gedo Mazo and CT countered by Yasaka magatama, totsuka blade cutting + sealing, Flash Tbb, Night guy, Hirudora, kamui teleported sakura's punch.

Shinra tensei withstood by BM mode's kyuubi force, kyuubi shockwave, yata mirror.

BT by throwing offensive attacks to kill the user before victim reaches user's radius, Yata mirror reflects it too.

IT reflected by Yata Shield, blocked by PS body armour.

How'll team 1 win?

 

[rinnegan human puppet]

Your arguments were negated by me.

A better option'd be yata mirror which can protect them from light at the same time deflect it back to madara and he will be under the genjutsu.

IT also takes a bit of prep, which can be utilized by gai to walk in the sky by using space steps and pressuring madara, not allowing him to pull it off.

Yea..no. Yata blocked a kunai and a paper bomb. For all we know kirin broke through it when it saved itachi. Might as well give tamari the ability to blow the universe away.

And wrong again, madara doesn’t need to put out the shinju tree and wait 15 min for IT to activate like obito. For one obito isn’t a wielder of his own pair of original Rinnegan, or did he actually gather all the tail beasts. As per canon madara fly’s close enough to the moon and the 3rd eye reveals itself. In this scenerio its even worse, he already has the 3rd eye all he has to do is reflect his eye on the moon and activate it.

And gai stopping what? Hahahahaha i guess you missed the chapters where rikudo naruto with TBBRS and rinnegan sasuke with perfect susano failed to stop madara from flying up and casting IT? What the hell is gai going to do in this match up?

 

[Uverdore9]

Yea..no. Yata blocked a kunai and a paper bomb. For all we know kirin broke through it when it saved itachi. Might as well give tamari the ability to blow the universe away.

And wrong again, madara doesn’t need to put out the shinju tree and wait 15 min for IT to activate like obito. For one obito isn’t a wielder of his own pair of original Rinnegan, or did he actually gather all the tail beasts. As per canon madara fly’s close enough to the moon and the 3rd eye reveals itself. In this scenerio its even worse, he already has the 3rd eye all he has to do is reflect his eye on the moon and activate it.

And gai stopping what? Hahahahaha i guess you missed the chapters where rikudo naruto with TBBRS and rinnegan sasuke with perfect susano failed to stop madara from flying up and casting IT? What the hell is gai going to do in this match up?

Yata didn't get anything else to block. Kishi nerfed it in Kabuto fight and Nagato fight. It's that hax. Yata cannot be broken, it's intangible because no physical form. Why'd kishi introduce it as invincible just after it was broken by kirin? And how can such a strong shield hyped to be repelling everything be destroyed by a weak attack like kirin? BZ knows Amenominaka and IT, and Gudodama Kekkei Mora, still said Yata can deflect anything.

Temari wasn't stated to be absolutely invincible, so it's purely hyper-bole.

But itachi had such a premier hype in manga along with Databook. So that hype gets valid.

And BZ said it can reflect every attack didn't he, in canon manga, didn't he?

If that's the case, it can reflect IT light.


And you're right, in this scene they've to prepare for IT casting without prep, but even then, Yata and Perfect Susano'O can reflect it and block it respectively.


And they just've to wait behind the shield and Susano'O till the light fades, and if I'm correct, the light diminishes as time passes right? Correct me I'm wrong, though.

 

[Animegoin]

Yata didn't get anything else to block. Kishi nerfed it in Kabuto fight and Nagato fight. It's that hax. Yata cannot be broken, it's intangible because no physical form. Why'd kishi introduce it as invincible just after it was broken by kirin? And how can such a strong shield hyped to be repelling everything be destroyed by a weak attack like kirin? BZ knows Amenominaka and IT, and Gudodama Kekkei Mora, still said Yata can deflect anything.

Temari wasn't stated to be absolutely invincible, so it's purely hyper-bole.

But itachi had such a premier hype in manga along with Databook. So that hype gets valid.

And BZ said it can reflect every attack didn't he, in canon manga, didn't he?

If that's the case, it can reflect IT light.


And you're right, in this scene they've to prepare for IT casting without prep, but even then, Yata and Perfect Susano'O can reflect it and block it respectively.


And they just've to wait behind the shield and Susano'O till the light fades, and if I'm correct, the light diminishes as time passes right? Correct me I'm wrong, though.

Fail, nope. Madara solos.

 

[Uverdore9]

ROFL not in a million years. You can continue to straddle Itachi until your lower region is destroyed and yet you still wouldn’t be able to convince yourself that you won against me.

I just repeated what the manga and DB facts say. If that's straddling, then think what you want.

 

[Uverdore9]

Nope but that’s literally how dumb you sound. Rofl

Lmfao but you didn’t though. Rofl

Take a look at this databook.

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It thoroughouly annihilates the soul and hearts.

Which is why it's not a normal genjutsu, it's effects're real. Itachi can choose whether to mentally damage, or spiritually damage.

 

[Animegoin]

Take a look at this databook.

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It thoroughouly annihilates the soul and hearts.

Which is why it's not a normal genjutsu, it's effects're real. Itachi can choose whether to mentally damage, or spiritually damage.

ROFL first of all, it doesn’t; PLUS I’m 100% positive that I used that specific excerpt against you to destroy your own argument. Second of all Madara can use Tskuyoumi and every other MS ability that Itachi can. He’s the one that passed on the knowledge to Obito to pass onto Itachi. Take a seat.

 

[Uverdore9]

ROFL first of all, it doesn’t; PLUS I’m 100% positive that I used that specific excerpt against you to destroy your own argument. Second of all Madara can use Tskuyoumi and every other MS ability that Itachi can. He’s the one that passed on the knowledge to Obito to pass onto Itachi. Take a seat.

Where did he use itachi's tsukiyomi?

Tsukiyomi can manipulate matter in that realm which Madara's soul'll suffer eternally because of the pain.

It has the principles of all creation in it's hands, where itachi's will is absolute.

He can say "Let there be darkness and no gravity".

Then there'll be.

Uchihas cannot break it. That was a lie spread by itachi which got proven wrong after Sasuke vs Itachi.

 

[rinnegan human puppet]

Yata didn't get anything else to block. Kishi nerfed it in Kabuto fight and Nagato fight. It's that hax. Yata cannot be broken, it's intangible because no physical form. Why'd kishi introduce it as invincible just after it was broken by kirin? And how can such a strong shield hyped to be repelling everything be destroyed by a weak attack like kirin? BZ knows Amenominaka and IT, and Gudodama Kekkei Mora, still said Yata can deflect anything.

Temari wasn't stated to be absolutely invincible, so it's purely hyper-bole.

But itachi had such a premier hype in manga along with Databook. So that hype gets valid.

And BZ said it can reflect every attack didn't he, in canon manga, didn't he?

If that's the case, it can reflect IT light.


And you're right, in this scene they've to prepare for IT casting without prep, but even then, Yata and Perfect Susano'O can reflect it and block it respectively.


And they just've to wait behind the shield and Susano'O till the light fades, and if I'm correct, the light diminishes as time passes right? Correct me I'm wrong, though.

Many characters in the manga were stated to be “the fastest” “invincible” “immortal” get out of here with that trolling trash, BZ riding kaguya is a perfect example. “She’s unbeatable” what happened? Minato being The fastest, while The manga progresses we find out thats a lie. Itachi is a lower tier character and is a non factor here, this is my last reply.

Yata isn’t blocking IT, while the light diminishes madara blows them up with a juubi tbb. Its a stomp match up. You have to atleast put rikudo naruto along with sasuke in the same team to fight prime madara.

Restrict IT and its still a stomp, considering the fact that only sasuke has the ability to see And react to limbo in team 2 that alone wipes them out the map. Yea sasuke can warn kakashi about it while 100 meteors drop and theres multiple quad juubidamas forming. Good luck. Kamui projectiles can be stopped with literally anything you throw at them since they warp anything they touch. Flower world pullen and jukai kotan just makes it that much worse for team 2.

 

[Animegoin]

Where did he use itachi's tsukiyomi?

Tsukiyomi can manipulate matter in that realm which Madara's soul'll suffer eternally because of the pain.

It has the principles of all creation in it's hands, where itachi's will is absolute.

He can say "Let there be darkness and no gravity".

Then there'll be.

Uchihas cannot break it. That was a lie spread by itachi which got proven wrong after Sasuke vs Itachi.

Lmfao he used Tskuyoumi on teen Obito after he awakened his MS.

Itachi isn’t a god rofl as opposed to Madara. Itachi has a limited chakra reserve which means that he can’t maintain his MS nor his Susano’o forever. Madara has EMS, Rinnegan and infinite chakra. Madara also has both Senju and Uchiha DNA which manginifies his Tskuyoumi above Itachi’s. His Rinnegan allows him to utilize the “Creation of All things” ability to create his own spirit weapons if need be. Again, sit down.

 

[Uverdore9]

Many characters in the manga were stated to be “the fastest” “invincible” “immortal” get out of here with that trolling trash, BZ riding kaguya is a perfect example. “She’s unbeatable” what happened? Minato being The fastest, while The manga progresses we find out thats a lie. Itachi is a lower tier character and is a non factor here, this is my last reply.

Yata isn’t blocking IT, while the light diminishes madara blows them up with a juubi tbb. Its a stomp match up. You have to atleast put rikudo naruto along with sasuke in the same team to fight prime madara.

Restrict IT and its still a stomp, considering the fact that only sasuke has the ability to see And react to limbo in team 2 that alone wipes them out the map. Yea sasuke can warn kakashi about it while 100 meteors drop and theres multiple quad juubidamas forming. Good luck. Kamui projectiles can be stopped with literally anything you throw at them since they warp anything they touch. Flower world pullen and jukai kotan just makes it that much worse for team 2.

Even Kaguya was only called "immortal". Including madara. Itachi was called absolutely invincible. Then there's the explanation that yata's an absolutely perfect defense, there's no flaw whatsoever.

BZ knew IT, he was planning the whole thing, he knew every one of Kaguya, Indra, Asura, Madara, Hashirama's powers.

Hell, he saw the Vote 1 fight eye to eye.


Yet he didn't back out from passing that kind of hype to Itachi.

Manga backs it. Databooks backs it. If you look at it, temari and other hyperbolic characters who've been transfered such tremendous hype were never stated to be so-so in the canon manga.

I think it's not fair to deny all that hype just because he hasn't shown it. That's like saying Hashirama will lose to tayuya if he gets caught in her genjutsu. do you believe that? It's not like we've ever seen him breaking out of anything in canon.

It's called benefit of the doubt. There's not much of feet speed feat when it concerns minato, he spams ftg, but do anyone accept the fact he might be slow? Nope.


We're actually giving minato the benefit of the doubt because of his speed hype, even though it's proven he was called the fastest due to his tremendous skillful use of FTG.

Same scenario, there is a two Databook pages or more hyping the weapons + extra backup from manga: thinking it'd fail to succeed the hype is actually fallacious.


And, Kakashi has infinite chakra and stamina as I mentioned in OP.


He can spam Kamui Raikiri. Which means he's teleporting every thing madara is conjuring up along with the rest of his team.

Juubidama's won't penetrate Sasuke + Itachi + Kakashi Susano'O + Yata.

Like I said earlier, the light reflects back to the moon and madara and team get's caught in genjutsu, this works, looking at how genjutsu reflection was used to deflect Kurenai's genjutsu back at her.


It's work in the same mechanism.


Rinnegan genjutsu soloed the beasts, it could solo them with help from above stated.

And if I remember correctly, Sasuke vs Danzo proved that Susano'O can send attacks outward without exposing a hole in defense: Baku was pulling Sasuke yet he fired a firestyle ball without getting pulled into it's mouth, which proves minato can fire flash tbb continuously to balance thiers.

Team 1 has more raw power, but Team 2's hax potentially overpowers them.


Itachi's Tsukuyomi potentially counters IT.

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He could look at the moon and cast his, which would control the eye of the moon: which in turn'd mass-scale genjutsu Madara's team.

If the eye is genjutsu'ed, then it follows the caster's will: the mechanism remains the same.