[VS] Perfect ultra instinct goku vs. vegitto blue
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Rikudou Tobi
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wrong section, still give it to vegito blue.
SS2 kefla, pushed goku to Ui even if its incomplete. Vegito blue is so far beyond that it's not even funny, not even including Beyond blue, or Kai-oh-ken x 20
SS2 kefla, pushed goku to Ui even if its incomplete. Vegito blue is so far beyond that it's not even funny, not even including Beyond blue, or Kai-oh-ken x 20
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Theoretically even if mui isn’t “stronger” he should still easily take vegito blue just on how mui works
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I would agree with your point as well if Jiren had not landed multiple blows on Omen Goku.
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Supposedly jiren has ui as well(supposedly we’ll see it next ep, but it makes sense considering the talk of him surpassing the gods) The only reason he landed that hit on omen was cause he already knew exactly what was coming after the kefla fight.
What these guys said.. But to Tobi!.. I don't think Jiren will be hitting Son to much in TUI.. The next ep is going to be stomp on Jiren time IMO..
Rikudou Tobi
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Bro I hope he doesn't land a single hit. Maybe he'll play with him like Goku did Freeza!?
He doesn't have Omen because he didn't know what it is. Even if he read the Kefla fight Goku's cognitive movement, Omen allows him dodge all cqc without thinking.
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Goku wins. Every instance we've seen thus far of Ultra Instinct has been one where Goku's drained or just a handful of minutes into recovering. The guy, drained and all, has pushed Jiren who swatted at SSB2 Vegeta and scoffed at God Toppo. Imagine a fresh Goku is all I'm saying.
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He didn’t hit him in cqc though, he hit him by knowing that gokus main attempt to attack him was gonna be that “UI Kamehameha” it’s also extremely plausible that jiren knows exactly what ui and ui omen is considering he’s the only one that hasn’t been the least bit surprised by seeing it. Which would also make more sense if he does actually have UI
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I don't see why else Jiren's aura would look so similar. But to be fair, Goku's UI has gone through like 3 different Auras now.
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Yea but all the ui ones had the similar “heat” effect. Jirens form in the previews looks the same, just red. It’s possible jiren hasn’t really given much thought to ui omen Goku cause he knew it was incomplete. It does have to kind of sting to know that he could of taken Goku out of the tourney easily at any point before now lol
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i did watch it. Im still giving it to vegito blue. As already said, a ss2 patora fusion of far weaker sayian's already pushed goku to incomplete Ui. So a fusion between stronger base saiyans going to a state leaps and bounds beyond SS2 means goku is taking that L. IDGAF
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Klefa was two weaker sayains but I think the legendary super sayain transformation is what pushed their transformation so far so quickly. Consider the fact the legendary super sayain was said to have unlimited power and goku would die from 1 hit of her attack even in UI
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Even when fighting with SS2 califa, kale in her mastered LS state was getting spanked by SSG goku. So my point still Stands. It's a fusion of lesser sayains.
SSB is stronger than SSG, so a fusion between two sayians that go SSB is gonna be far stronger than a fusion by two saying that get beat by SSG, and when i mean beat i mean utterly stomped.
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BenjerminGaye
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Not to mention the hypothetical Vegito in Question has access to beyond SSb and can still multiply that beyond state by 20 thanks to kaioken. goku on his own isn't beating that.
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Horrible logic. Incomplete UI was being beaten by Jiren meanwhile Complete UI smacked him around with utter ease. This logic is horrible. Vegito Blue is said to be probably stronger than Beerus while charging his Final Kamehameha. UI Goku is stated to completely surpass the Gods of Destruction and he fodder slapped Jiren after the latter had powered up to almost full power (stronger than any GoD) and still has the advantage over him in the preview despite Jiren going through another large power up.
This is not a contest. Vegito loses and it's not close. :lol Jiren and Goku are at a level where only an Angel or above can take them out. x20 Kaioken is irrelevant. Beyond SSJ Blue is irrelevant too. The power gap is too large.
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