The Underrated Power of Science.

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Kabuto and Orochimaru had a theory, a theory that was born from many years of scientific experiments, a theory that was put to the rest during the 4th war. By fusing Hashirama’ life force and cells with Madara’, they thought a rinnegan would be produced. The proof of this was the awakening of ‘fake Rinnegan’ by edo Madara. Not only did they figure out how Madara awakened his real rinnegan, but also how to reproduce the same results in a lab. Kabuto took his findings and applied it to a dying Sasuke. Whether he wanted Sasuke to awaken Rinnegan or not, he managed to save his life, and did so by using the same cells and life force of Hashirama. All this was done with no knowledge from the stone tablet.
 
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Science is not underrated though Boruto emphasizes the power of science over ninjutsu in it's episodes.
 

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With science, Oro will solo every single character one day:happy:
 

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oro is irrelevant

Did I ask you whether he's relevant or not?:wut:
Btw, just stop. You're making fun of yourself at this point. I can swear that you said multiple times that Oro is relevant. How tiresome:coffee:
 

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Except Hashirama's Ashura chakra had migrated with his death. Anyway agree that the science or rather experimentation even if it was unethical is underrated.
 
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Madara already had Hashirama's cells in him when be died. He already awakened the rennigan as well. So for Orochimaru and Kabuto to make a hypothesis on Hashirama's cells awakening the rennigan isn't surprising. I'd be surprised if he didn't. Plus they had his body and Orochimaru was already playing around with Hashirama's cells.
 

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I forgot that the time Orochiamru and Kabuto found Madara's body, he no longer had a rinnegan anymore. So they improved his senju tissue to create this pseudo rinnegan for madara.

Does that mean this move is fake then?
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Madara already had Hashirama's cells in him when be died. He already awakened the rennigan as well. So for Orochimaru and Kabuto to make a hypothesis on Hashirama's cells awakening the rennigan isn't surprising. I'd be surprised if he didn't. Plus they had his body and Orochimaru was already playing around with Hashirama's cells.

Well it depends on which of Madara’s bodies they found. Remember, there was his Kage Bushin body and his Senju enhanced body. If they found the Kage Bushin’s body (no where is it stated that it expired or disappeared) then their hypothesis could only be proven in the field. Which makes sense because remember, Edo Madara’s eyes were the sharingan at first not the Rinnegan. While the real Madara’s eyes are presumably permanently the Rinnegan.
 

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wakatsuki>>>>>>oro in science!!!!

Can teh Wakatsuki clone himself??????
Teh answer iz!!!!!!!!

No!!!!!!!
 
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Nice theory. But wasnt the case that Kabuto told him they deciphered the stone tablet with Orochimaru?
 

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Well it depends on which of Madara’s bodies they found. Remember, there was his Kage Bushin body and his Senju enhanced body. If they found the Kage Bushin’s body (no where is it stated that it expired or disappeared) then their hypothesis could only be proven in the field. Which makes sense because remember, Edo Madara’s eyes were the sharingan at first not the Rinnegan. While the real Madara’s eyes are presumably permanently the Rinnegan.

What are you on about? Kabuto found his actual corpse. This was actually after orochimaru "died". He experimented on it and obviously saw the cells of Hashirama in Madara's body. It's why he said he made it more perfect, then when he was in his prime. There was no shadow clones or any clones to be found. Plus they disappear after the user is dead or severely injured.
 

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What are you on about? Kabuto found his actual corpse. This was actually after orochimaru "died". He experimented on it and obviously saw the cells of Hashirama in Madara's body. It's why he said he made it more perfect, then when he was in his prime. There was no shadow clones or any clones to be found. Plus they disappear after the user is dead or severely injured.

Clearly you don’t get what I’d alluded to, so I’ll say it this way. Kabuto had already stated that he had improved Edo Tensei Madara to where he was better than his prime state. Assuming Black Zetsu led Kabuto to Madara’s “real” corpse, which only posessed one spare sharingan (as seen when he talks to Obito), Edo Tensei Madara shouldn’t have been revived with two 3T sharingan. If Kabuto had actually played around with the “real” Madara’s corpse (that had decades of polymerized and perfectly synchronized Senju And Uchiha DNA stored in it) Edo Madara should’ve been resurrected with the Rinnegan (by default) in at least one of his eyes because the other was someone else’s sharingan. On the other hand, if Kabuto had taken the Kage Bushin’s body (that had no Senju DNA and no spare sharingan) and experimented with it, then it would explain how Madara’s eyes were not only both of his own real eyes, but how he could also alternate between 3T Sharingan, EMS and the Rinnegan. To that “Kage Bushin would’ve disappeared” claim, it’s never been shown what happened to Madara’s clone.

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Clearly you don’t get what I’d alluded to, so I’ll say it this way. Kabuto had already stated that he had improved Edo Tensei Madara to where he was better than his prime state. Assuming Black Zetsu led Kabuto to Madara’s “real” corpse, which only posessed one spare sharingan (as seen when he talks to Obito), Edo Tensei Madara shouldn’t have been revived with two 3T sharingan. If Kabuto had actually played around with the “real” Madara’s corpse (that had decades of polymerized and perfectly synchronized Senju And Uchiha DNA stored in it) Edo Madara should’ve been resurrected with the Rinnegan (by default) in at least one of his eyes because the other was someone else’s sharingan. On the other hand, if Kabuto had taken the Kage Bushin’s body (that had no Senju DNA and no spare sharingan) and experimented with it, then it would explain how Madara’s eyes were not only both of his own real eyes, but how he could also alternate between 3T Sharingan, EMS and the Rinnegan. To that “Kage Bushin would’ve disappeared” claim, it’s never been shown what happened to Madara’s clone.

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He wasn't revived with the Sharingan. When you get revived by Edo Tensei, you come back the way you die. Madara died with 2 Sharingans in his eyes. Kabuto did things to his body, so he wouldn't come back as an old man (probably also added more of Hashirama's cells into his body, that's just my opinion though). It was his corpse as stated by Black Zetsu, if you've got any scans saying otherwise post it. Madara wouldn't have been revived with the Rinnegan as Nagato had it. Him being able to switch between doujutsus wasn't explained, it might have been because of Kabuto but no one knows.

It certainly wasn't the shadow clone that was being experimented on. They disappear after chakra runs out or the user dies. Kabuto found the corpse close to the beginning of the war. Madara died along time before that, and the shadow clone would have also dispersed.
 

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He wasn't revived with the Sharingan. When you get revived by Edo Tensei, you come back the way you die. Madara died with 2 Sharingans in his eyes. Kabuto did things to his body, so he wouldn't come back as an old man (probably also added more of Hashirama's cells into his body, that's just my opinion though). It was his corpse as stated by Black Zetsu, if you've got any scans saying otherwise post it. Madara wouldn't have been revived with the Rinnegan as Nagato had it. Him being able to switch between doujutsus wasn't explained, it might have been because of Kabuto but no one knows.

It certainly wasn't the shadow clone that was being experimented on. They disappear after chakra runs out or the user dies. Kabuto found the corpse close to the beginning of the war. Madara died along time before that, and the shadow clone would have also dispersed.
Are you legit replying to this guy? He's a charlatan that's all he is. He thinks Hagaoromo having a ripple pattern in his eyes is what gave him the SO6P sobrequet. Now consider someone with that logic saying something actually substantial.
 

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Are you legit replying to this guy? He's a charlatan that's all he is. He thinks Hagaoromo having a ripple pattern in his eyes is what gave him the SO6P sobrequet. Now consider someone with that logic saying something actually substantial.

Lmfao didn’t I destroy you* to the where you couldn’t respond in that same post? You avoided the subject and got personal only to still get squashed like Rikudou Tobi in the past. Oh, that’s right. I did. :lmao:
 
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Are you legit replying to this guy? He's a charlatan that's all he is. He thinks Hagaoromo having a ripple pattern in his eyes is what gave him the SO6P sobrequet. Now consider someone with that logic saying something actually substantial.

It's the only thing i was replying to really. Not here to argue about something already shown in the Manga. Thanks for the heads up though lol.
 

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He wasn't revived with the Sharingan. When you get revived by Edo Tensei, you come back the way you die. Madara died with 2 Sharingans in his eyes. Kabuto did things to his body, so he wouldn't come back as an old man (probably also added more of Hashirama's cells into his body, that's just my opinion though). It was his corpse as stated by Black Zetsu, if you've got any scans saying otherwise post it. Madara wouldn't have been revived with the Rinnegan as Nagato had it. Him being able to switch between doujutsus wasn't explained, it might have been because of Kabuto but no one knows.

It certainly wasn't the shadow clone that was being experimented on. They disappear after chakra runs out or the user dies. Kabuto found the corpse close to the beginning of the war. Madara died along time before that, and the shadow clone would have also dispersed.

You didn’t read the scans in the spoiler did you?

Madara actually died with one sharingan is what I’m telling you. He used Izanagi to defy death, manifested the Rinnegan, gave them to Nagato, and had only one spare sharingan eye that he’d taken from another Uchiha (when he was talking to kid Obito). If you have any scans to prove otherwise you can post them, but I don’t remember Madara having two spare Sharingans. And even if he did have two, they weren’t his so therefore upon being resurrected, he wouldn’t have had his original EMS. That portion about Edo Nagato having the Rinnegan wouldn’t effect Edo Madara because they’re dead and using fake eyes anyway. Not to mention that Edo Itachi still had his MS despite Sasuke having it inside his EMS.

That Kage bushin stuff is repetitive.
 

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Lmfao didn’t I destroy you* to the where you couldn’t respond in that same post? You avoided the subject and got personal only to still get squashed like Rikudou Tobi in the past. Oh, that’s right. I did. :lmao:
I don't respond to non sequitors, and the likes of you only makes such replies. All I can glean from this post is that you think you squashed anyone when reality tells a different story, and such haughty replies only come back to bite you. It's only a while before you get acknowledged for your infinite wisdom. Regardless, I've prevented more of this desulturoy talk. Enjoy the ignore-list realm, Animegroin. :win:
 
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