Overlooked power of V2 Susanoo arrows

[salamander uchiha]

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How strong and fast are Sasuke's V2 Susanoo arrows?

Point 1.There's considerable distance between Sasuke who's on the statue and Naruto who's on the water that needed to be covered.

Point 2. Naruto with RSM was forced to counter with TSBs because he couldn't dodge them even with his super enhanced speed.

Point 3. The fact that Naruto counters them with TSB's means they were powerful enough to cause serious damage or kill him.

Your thoughts?

 

[FemmeFatale]

The chakra is always the same I think the durability just increases , so ribcage slap could kill Naruto too

 

[Umari Senju]

Well he enhanced with rikudo juice and hashirods at this point so I imagine they are pretty deadly.

They were pretty fast and dangerous even before then when he used them against Danzo and Kabuto. He split Kabuto’s snake tail when he was quickly slithering about that cave and killed Danzo with them A few times as well so they are pretty fast.

 

[Sagebee]

Not really him using tsbs doesn't mean he was forced to but it was just the easiest defence he could of used his kyuubi mode as defense aswell but didn't

 

[salamander uchiha]

Well he enhanced with rikudo juice and hashirods a time this point so I imagine they are pretty deadly.

They weee pretty fast and dangerous even before then when he used them against Danzo and Kabuto. He split Kabuto’s smale tail when he was quickly slithering about that cave and killed Danzo with them A few times as well so they are pretty fast.

Yeah don't know about the hashiroids fanfic past healing him even then that was momentary. Since the "hashiroids" didn't heal him after vote 2.

The Rokudo chakra is understandable, however I don't think he used 6 paths senjutsu. For more on that I'd advise going back to the brief bout against JJ Madara and his Limbo clone.

Not really him using tsbs doesn't mean he was forced to but it was just the easiest defence he could of used his kyuubi mode as defense aswell but didn't

Look at Naruto's position he was forced to use them. If he didn't need to he wouldn't have. Also pay close attention to the size of th explosion from the arrows in the last panel.

 

[Sagebee]

Yeah don't know about the hashiroids fanfic past healing him even then that was momentary. Since the "hashiroids" didn't heal him after vote 2.

The Rokudo chakra is understandable, however I don't think he used 6 paths senjutsu. For more on that I'd adice going back to the brief bout against JJ Madara and his Limbo clone.



Look at Naruto's position he was forced to use them. If he didn't need to he wouldn't have. Also pay close attention to the size of th explosion from the arrows in the last panel.

I'm not saying they aren't powerful but sasuke used then multiple times on him when he didn't have tsbs but he was still able to tank it

 

[salamander uchiha]

I'm not saying they aren't powerful but sasuke used then multiple times on him when he didn't have tsbs but he was still able to tank it

Examples please, I must've missed them.

 

[Exaar]

Naruto using them =/= him not being able to dodged or being force to do so.

Unless the TSB move faster than RSM naruto himself, which i highly doubt.

The Rokudo chakra is understandable, however I don't think he used 6 paths senjutsu. For more on that I'd adice going back to the brief bout against JJ Madara and his Limbo clone.

His arrows were dodged quite easily by Sm kabuto not that long ago, The extra power/speed in those arrows came from some where and the only major power up he got between those instances was from the Sage.

 

[InfiniteMugen]

Fast enough for kakashi to have to kamui it away cause he couldn’t dodge in time when he was directly in front of it

 

[GetsugaTenshou]

Maybe using TSBs was just more convenient? He dodged Madara's Ranton Kouga which is supposed to be as fast as light from near point blank range, and the fact that he could even use the TSBs to block them in time proves he was capable of dodging them himself but simply chose the more convenient option because I doubt the TSBs are faster than he is. Why risk the attack actually hitting him when he can stop it before it gets too close at no cost to himself

 

[salamander uchiha]

Naruto using them =/= him not being able to dodged or being force to do so.

Unless the TSB move faster than RSM naruto himself, which i highly doubt.

Sure why isn't it possible for them to be launched faster than the user.

His arrows were dodged quite easily by Sm kabuto not that long ago, The extra power/speed in those arrows came from some where and the only major power up he got between those instances was from the Sage.

Rokudo chakra is understandable, remember when Sasuke used his Susanoo against IT. BZ attributed it's resistance to being a rinnegan Susanoo. It would obviously be stronger if it's a Rinnegan Susanoo. As for rokudo senjutsu that's different it was used against Madara's Limbo.

Fast enough for kakashi to have to kamui it away cause he couldn’t dodge in time when he was directly in front of it

Good point I forgot about that.

Maybe using TSBs was just more convenient? He dodged Madara's Ranton Kouga which is supposed to be as fast as light from near point blank range, and the fact that he could even use the TSBs to block them in time proves he was capable of dodging them himself but simply chose the more convenient option because I doubt the TSBs are faster than he is. Why risk the attack actually hitting him when he can stop it before it gets too close at no cost to himself

Madara entered the world of nerf at that point. Judging by the !! marks above Naruto's head he didn't have much time to do anything except counter.

 

[UnderTheRedHood]

I think they are pretty fast almost instant since Kakashi wasnt able to react but had to rely on Kamui to dodge it

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[Sagebee]

Examples please, I must've missed them.

Specifically in the anime fight when the kyuubi was held down from the arrow for a bit but I'm sure I can find lesser attacks taking on the series, a rasengan or rasenshuriken could take it on, also I think narutos fast enough to dodge them aswell it's just hard to avoid sharingan targeting.

 

[Reboryushon]

Hypothetically their distance is 1000 meters, Sasuke arrow in the anime takes 3 seconds to reach Naruto. Therefore Sasuke arrow travels at 9 km/s.
Savage.

:bouncy:

 

[salamander uchiha]

Specifically in the anime fight when the kyuubi was held down from the arrow for a bit but I'm sure I can find lesser attacks taking on the series, a rasengan or rasenshuriken could take it on, also I think narutos fast enough to dodge them aswell it's just hard to avoid sharingan targeting.

Anime? Really Sagebee.

No to the bold because it didn't happen, it can't be qualified. Naruto barely had time to use TSBS let alone form rasengan and rasenshuriken.

Hypothetically their distance is 1000 meters, Sasuke arrow in the anime takes 3 seconds to reach Naruto. Therefore Sasuke arrow travels at 9 km/s.

Savage.

Anime may have restricted the speed for extra effect. They were likely travelling faster. Let's face it if regular Sasuke's Susanoo arrow prompted Kakshi to use Kamui then Rinnegan Sasuke's arrows are on another level. The only reaction Naruto was capable of was blocking with TSB.

 

[Sagebee]

Anime? Really Sagebee.

No to the bold because it didn't happen, it can't be qualified. Naruto barely had time to use TSBS let alone form rasengan and rasenshuriken.



Anime may have restricted the speed for extra effect. They were likely travelling faster. Let's face it if regular Sasuke's Susanoo arrow prompted Kakshi to use Kamui then Rinnegan Sasuke's arrows are on another level. The only reaction Naruto was capable of was blocking with TSB.

That's pretty good reaction speed in narutos part and maybe he was forced due to time constraints but not power

 

[Exaar]

Sure why isn't it possible for them to be launched faster than the user.

It's not impossible just highly unlikely.
The orbs that were floating behind Madara were intercepted by Gated Lee (twice) and Gai, Minato and Pre-RSM cloaked naruto and Obito.

I highly,doubt naruto's orbs are on a completely different level to madara's in terms of speed when Madara was the Juubi in and overall much stronger than VOTE 2 Naruto or Sasuke.

Rokudo chakra is understandable, remember when Sasuke used his Susanoo against IT. BZ attributed it's resistance to being a rinnegan Susanoo. It would obviously be stronger if it's a Rinnegan Susanoo. As for rokudo senjutsu that's different it was used against Madara's Limbo.

It's most likely that the Rikidou chakra leaks into everything they do, Weather they intentionally use it or not, Most likely the reason why all their feats, Even Taijutsu took a massive jump after receiving it. Similar to how Kurama's chakra leaked into naruto's.

 

[salamander uchiha]

That's pretty good reaction speed in narutos part and maybe he was forced due to time constraints but not power

Power output is shown via explosion, that is evidenced by the fact that Naruto blocked them instead of tank them.

 

[Sagebee]

Power output is shown via explosion, that is evidenced by the fact that Naruto blocked them instead of tank them.

Again not saying it's not powerful but nothing Naruto would have to sweat, imagine sasuke getting hit with an army of giant rasenshurikens like in the war now that's scary.

 

[Nick01]

Maybe using TSBs was just more convenient? He dodged Madara's Ranton Kouga which is supposed to be as fast as light from near point blank range, and the fact that he could even use the TSBs to block them in time proves he was capable of dodging them himself but simply chose the more convenient option because I doubt the TSBs are faster than he is. Why risk the attack actually hitting him when he can stop it before it gets too close at no cost to himself

This. He was most definitely capable of dodging them. He did after all react to Ameno.

Also This V2 is in an entirely different league than the one Kakashi was up against.