Hokage Naruto Can’t Enter So6p Mode

[Hag0r0m0 0tsutsuki]

Naruto used rsm in the last, that was a confirmed animation mistake same as sasuke rinnegan being deactive. More proof Naruto was flying and even caught toneri's tsb (golden wheel) which is impossible without rsm.

The source of that would be appreciated. The moon had low gravity, specifically when they were on the surface. I watched that fight when I made this post.

 

[Mori Jin]

Ill save you the inevitable back and forth.

Did Naruto get six paths sage mode from hagoromo? Yes
Did Naruto get six paths senjutsu from hagoromo? No.
Did Naruto get six paths senjutsu without hagromo? Yes.
How Did Naruto awaken six paths senjutsu? Via the power of the all biju.
But you said only juubi jinchuriki awaken six paths senjutsu? The power of the biju made Naruto become the juubi jinchuriki.
I don’t believe you, got proof? Sure, read this.

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He got RSM from Hagoromo. Sage Mode users by default use senjutsu chakra. By default he also got Rikudo senjutsu from Hagoromo as well. Fanfic No he didn't get it by himself. Post a mangascan stating that he got it by himself, or keep that nonsense to yourself. He did not awaken senjutsu, you learn how to absorb Natural energy into yourself, to then use senjutsu chakra. Juubi Jinchuurikis and RSM users both get the ability to use Rikudo senjutsu. Seeing as how RSM came from the Sage, so did the rikudo senjutsu chakra. Naruto is not the Juubi Jinchuuriki, only 3 Juubi Jinchuurikis within the Naruto Manga, and Naruto is not included.

Bring manga panels or scans. Novels are not canon, nice try. No wonder you're confused.

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Six Paths Sage Mode (六道仙人モード, Rikudō Sennin Mōdo), Sage Justu / Ninjutsu used by Naruto. Most of this page is too blurry to read, so I can only translate some of it.

The big header basically says it's a gift from the ancestor of shinobi that grants a supernatural mental state allowing for the complete, universal comprehension of all things.

From what I can make out of the main body of text, it says that this is a technique that allows the user to quickly grasp the nature of chakra with the skill of a well-studied, highly sensitive master. It also seems to have a bunch of philosphical stuff about the Sage of Six Paths which is hard to make out because I can only read about half of it.

Top caption says that the caster has an unconcious/automatic mastery of the Sage of Six Path's "ability to levitate" (浮遊する能力, fuyū suru nōryoku).

Second caption says, "Kicking a Truthseeker Orb! Surpassing Kurama Mode, his vast chakra lets him perform this risky stunt!"

Third caption says, "His reaction speed meets or exceeds that of Madara in his Ten Tails Jinchuriki Form. It's the height of sensory ability!"

@Underlined: He got it from the Sage. Sage Mode or Rikudo Sage Mode users (Naruto in this case) by default use senjutsu chakra or Rikudo senjutsu chakra. It all came from the Sage. I don't really care if you believe it or not but that's a fact in the Manga and Databook

Don't quote me if you're going to be using non-canon material to try and make point.

 

[3MESSIAH]

With the power of all biju Naruto awakens six paths senjutsu, but that only works with six paths sage mode. Not normal sage mode.

Difference of understanding I guess?

My view was always that six paths sage mode is simply sage mode greatly enhanced by 9 bijuu chakra And that this is THE reason it transforms to six paths sage mode(which is natural energy alltogether so it's basically An ultimate collection of natural energy which serves as a battery to his ultimate six paths sage mode

I get your logic though
Your reasoning is that he Got six paths sage mode from hagoromo which enabled him to fully take control of ultimate natural energy reserve which is juubi chakra

My view is Just the opposite...that receiving juubi chakra greatly boosted his natural energy reserves which elevated his sage mode on to a New level which is six paths sage mode

Similar yet debatable

 

[Hag0r0m0 0tsutsuki]

He got RSM from Hagoromo. Sage Mode users by default use senjutsu chakra. By default he also got Rikudo senjutsu from Hagoromo as well. Fanfic No he didn't get it by himself. Post a mangascan stating that he got it by himself, or keep that nonsense to yourself. He did not awaken senjutsu, you learn how to absorb Natural energy into yourself, to then use senjutsu chakra. Juubi Jinchuurikis and RSM users both get the ability to use Rikudo senjutsu. Seeing as how RSM came from the Sage, so did the rikudo senjutsu chakra. Naruto is not the Juubi Jinchuuriki, only 3 Juubi Jinchuurikis within the Naruto Manga, and Naruto is not included.

Bring manga panels or scans. Novels are not canon, nice try. No wonder you're confused.

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Six Paths Sage Mode (六道仙人モード, Rikudō Sennin Mōdo), Sage Justu / Ninjutsu used by Naruto. Most of this page is too blurry to read, so I can only translate some of it.

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The big header basically says it's a gift from the ancestor of shinobi that grants a supernatural mental state allowing for the complete, universal comprehension of all things.




From what I can make out of the main body of text, it says that this is a technique that allows the user to quickly grasp the nature of chakra with the skill of a well-studied, highly sensitive master. It also seems to have a bunch of philosphical stuff about the Sage of Six Paths which is hard to make out because I can only read about half of it.




Top caption says that the caster has an unconcious/automatic mastery of the Sage of Six Path's "ability to levitate" (浮遊する能力, fuyū suru nōryoku).




Second caption says, "Kicking a Truthseeker Orb! Surpassing Kurama Mode, his vast chakra lets him perform this risky stunt!"




Third caption says, "His reaction speed meets or exceeds that of Madara in his Ten Tails Jinchuriki Form. It's the height of sensory ability!"

@Underlined: He got it from the Sage. Sage Mode or Rikudo Sage Mode users (Naruto in this case) by default use senjutsu chakra or Rikudo senjutsu chakra. It all came from the Sage. I don't really care if you believe it or not but that's a fact in the Manga and Databook




Don't quote me if you're going to be using non-canon material to try and make point.

No offense, but you came up with some laughable head canon there. I mean it’s really funny how you’re intentionally ignoring the facts I presented not only in my comment that you responded to, but in the post itself. Let me break this down for you. Don’t blink, try to take notes, and if you really want to surprise me tell me why I’m wrong(with proof of your claims).


The only reason hagoromo was able to give the Naruto sage mode. Was because Naruto

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Part of which was later confirmed to be

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I’ve said this already, but by simply having the power of all biju,

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This part is very important for you to understand,

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Conclusion: Naruto awaken six paths senjutsu, and did so before this happened, aka before he got it six paths sage mode. Lol.

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@Bold This scan is also in my post. Just goes to show how much you must’ve skipped over/ignored. Shikamaru’ novel(orange outline) is the source the novel page.

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[LordRaikage]

didn't read

naruto negs all

 

[Hag0r0m0 0tsutsuki]

didn't read

naruto negs all

You should read it.

 

[Darth AniCetuS]

Asura became the new leader of ninshu. Why would he not use it. Furthermore the scan that states how he attained power describes ninshu to a T. Plus, you can’t possibly replace ninshu with a more credible answer. Can you?

Lol he attained those power before he was made the leader of ninshu so again no. Come back when you have actual scans cuz that's in no way ninshu.

 

[Hag0r0m0 0tsutsuki]

Lol he attained those power before he was made the leader of ninshu so again no. Come back when you have actual scans cuz that's in no way ninshu.

In Asura’ case, he received six paths sage senjutsu and six paths sage mode through ninshu(Wait really? YES). Hagoromo, who was the juubi jinchuriki at the time, used ninshu to link with asura, sharing his six paths senjutsu and giving him six paths sage mode. This is supported by:

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• The reason Hagoromo could recall the event. He was obviously present when they clashed, so he had to have linked with asura via ninshu. On top of that, the qualities that made hagoromo choose Asura as the leader of ninshu are the same for why he was chosen to receive six paths sage mode. Go figure.

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the way Naruto shared kurama chakra with the allied shinobi forces, and the way minato shared his half of kurama with Naruto. Ninshu is very much capable of having hagoromo cooperate with Asura by sharing six paths senjutsu.

Now before you jump out the window screaming how the scan says he awaken power, he rivaled Indra. To that I say yes, he in fact did. The linked chakra from those around Asura all went to him, and inside of him awaken said powers. If you don’t like my answer, feel free to refute and suggest some other power that works by linking people having them cooperate and working together as the reason for Asura achieving six paths sage mode. All while making sense to the story and using canon material as support. Just as I did.

 

[Darth AniCetuS]

In Asura’ case, he received six paths sage senjutsu and six paths sage mode through ninshu(Wait really? YES). Hagoromo, who was the juubi jinchuriki at the time, used ninshu to link with asura, sharing his six paths senjutsu and giving him six paths sage mode. This is supported by:

• Hagoromo’ account of Asura’ rise to power during his talk with Naruto. His description of what happened matches ninshu through and through.

• The reason Hagoromo could recall the event. He was obviously present when they clashed, so he had to have linked with asura via ninshu. On top of that, the qualities that made hagoromo choose Asura as the leader of ninshu are the same for why he was chosen to receive six paths sage mode. Go figure.

• The way ninshu was stated and shown to work. Between Madara’ statement, the way Naruto shared kurama chakra with the allied shinobi forces, and the way minato shared his half of kurama with Naruto. Ninshu is very much capable of having hagoromo cooperate with Asura by sharing six paths senjutsu.

Now before you jump out the window screaming how the scan says he awaken power, he rivaled Indra. To that I say yes, he in fact did. The linked chakra from those around Asura all went to him, and inside of him awaken said powers. If you don’t like my answer, feel free to refute and suggest some other power that works by linking people having them cooperate and working together as the reason for Asura achieving six paths sage mode. All while making sense to the story and using canon material as support. Just as I did.

Making claims without proof is nothing but speculation and fanfic. Come back when you have the scans.

Till then your's is just an assumption.

 

[Glad Of War]

Isn't this like the third site you've posted this?

DBU, NF, and NB.

On each of them, there's an overwhelming support on Naruto still having RSM. Only you, and a couple of Sasuke fanboys think otherwise.

 

[Hag0r0m0 0tsutsuki]

Making claims without proof is nothing but speculation and fanfic. Come back when you have the scans.

Till then your's is just an assumption.

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[Hag0r0m0 0tsutsuki]

Isn't this like the third site you've posted this?

DBU, NF, and NB.

On each of them, there's an overwhelming support on Naruto still having RSM. Only you, and a couple of Sasuke fanboys think otherwise.

You clearly misunderstood the post. I know factually that naruto still has six paths sage mode. I know this for several reasons, one being that the manga shows exactly what hagoromo took back from naruto and sasuke. That isnt the point of this post, or any of my other post you may have read.

 

[MathGuy]

<div class="bbWrapper">Even if Six Paths Sage Mode does require chakra from all the bijuu, Naruto still has fragments of each of their chakra:<br /> <div class="bbCodeSpoiler"> <button type="button" class="bbCodeSpoiler-button button" data-xf-click="toggle" data-xf-init="tooltip" title="Click to reveal or hide spoiler"><span class="button-text"> <span>Spoiler</span> </span></button> <div class="bbCodeSpoiler-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--spoiler"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="messageHide messageHide--image"> You must be registered for see images </div></div> </div> </div> </div>Although I've always been under the impression the sole indicator of Six Paths Sage Mode is the Kyuubi Sage Mode eyes without the pigmentation and the nine magatama were just a product of his chakra cloak using chakra from all the bijuu. Naruto did kick Madara's truth seeking ball with only the eyes after all.<br /> It seems to me that any claims that Naruto hasn't entered So6P mode after VotE2 would have to explain why he has the same eyes as when he first entered So6P mode.</div>

 

[Hag0r0m0 0tsutsuki]

Even if Six Paths Sage Mode does require chakra from all the bijuu, Naruto still has fragments of each of their chakra:

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Although I've always been under the impression the sole indicator of Six Paths Sage Mode is the Kyuubi Sage Mode eyes without the pigmentation and the nine magatama were just a product of his chakra cloak using chakra from all the bijuu. Naruto did kick Madara's truth seeking ball with only the eyes after all.
It seems to me that any claims that Naruto hasn't entered So6P mode after VotE2 would have to explain why he has the same eyes as when he first entered So6P mode.

The rings around the eyes are relevant for normal sage mode, not for six paths sage mode that uses six paths senjutsu.

Six paths senjutsu causes different physical effects and had it's own indicators. I provided that info in the OP and in previous replies.

 

[Hag0r0m0 0tsutsuki]

Naruto lost six paths senjutsu, but he still has six paths sage mode.

Just like you need to gather normal senjutsu before entering normal sage mode, Naruto needs to 'gather' six paths senjutsu before entering six paths sage mode. He can't currently do this because for one reason or another he's only able to use kurama right now.

You wouldn't say Naruto lost normal sage mode if he went a day without gathering senjutsu. All he'd need to do is gather enough senjutsu again and he'd enter sage mode. Furthermore minato, who hadn't gathered senjutsu in over a decade, did just that during the 4th war and still went sage mode. Likewise, if naruo was to return to using the power of the other 8 biju with kurama, he'd 'regather' six paths senjutsu, and enter six paths sage mode.

 

[Michael]

Naruto Wrecks

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[Hag0r0m0 0tsutsuki]

Naruto Wrecks

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Cool pic.

 

[Uverdore9]

Naruto doesn't have Truth Seeking Balls; at least that much is clear as crystal.

 

[Michael]

Naruto doesn't have Truth Seeking Balls; at least that much is clear as crystal.

Naruto simply Isn't using the techniques, doesn't mean he can't.

 

[Hag0r0m0 0tsutsuki]

Naruto simply Isn't using the techniques, doesn't mean he can't.

Regardless if they’re there or not, those 8 biju vestiges are functionless right now. He needs them for six paths senjutsu. Getting them to work(or getting them back) is the only thing preventing him from using six paths sage mode. The form isn’t lost, just not being used is all.