Can we all agree

[salamander uchiha]

-Yes Minato's a coward and I'm making excuses-

Thanks for agreeing.

 

[MightGai]

Actually, no. Gudoudama's shield is better in my opinion, not only it doesn't have a time limit, it's overkill for pretty much 95% of NV

 

[Darth AniCetuS]

Thanks for agreeing.

Concession accepted...

 

[salamander uchiha]

Concession accepted...

I've already accepted your concession

 

[Uverdore9]

Yata mirror. Said to repel every attack. Hype's been proved it's repelled Kusanagi Blade which pierced Naruto's RSM cloak and Madara's Juubi form yet repelled away by Yata mirror. Kamui can be blocked by an astral attack blocking material/repelled by repulsion mirrors/evaded with speed. Once caught is the end but as Databook states but only on Physical things.

 

[Oblivionx]

Well it is best defense. That is without any doubt. Intangibility is near impossible to beat. And yes his MS is most OP though hashirama's cells made it far more op than it was.

 

[Uverdore9]

Well it is best defense. That is without any doubt. Intangibility is near impossible to beat. And yes his MS is most OP though hashirama's cells made it far more op than it was.

Intangibility is not. Dan has intangibility yet not considered the best/anything. Kamui has it's limits. It couldn't pass through the Reverse Trigrams Sealing technique of Danzo. He had to flee before it was cast. Among other things such as Amaterasu despite the blood signal.

 

[Darth AniCetuS]

I've already accepted your concession

Couldn't counter my post. Gives excuses. Holds the L. Loses his mind and posts more nonsense.

Typical Salamander....:salt:

 

[salamander uchiha]

Couldn't counter my post. Gives excuses. Holds the L. Loses his mind and posts more nonsense.

Typical Salamander....:salt:

Comes back with BS which doesn't require countering, couldn't give a legit reason why Minato chose thw cowards way out. Instead makes excuses and expects a counter for fanfic.

Typical AniCetuS...:salt:

 

[Darth AniCetuS]

Comes back with BS which doesn't require countering, couldn't give a legit reason why Minato chose thw cowards way out. Instead makes excuses and expects a counter for fanfic.

Typical AniCetuS...:salt:

Posts fanfic that Minato is a coward when the fact is that he's respected in the entire NV as a hero. Gets triggered when his BS is pointed out to him. Couldn't counter so gives silly excuses. Makes a fool out of himself in the process :lol

 

[salamander uchiha]

Posts fanfic that Minato is a coward when the fact is that he's respected in the entire NV as a hero. Gets triggered when his BS is pointed out to him. Couldn't counter so gives silly excuses. Makes a fool out of himself in the process :lol

Respected for what? Taking the cowards way out, instead of living to raise his son, possibly beat Obito and protect his village. He must be a hero right keep telling yourself that because thats all you've got to cling onto.:lol.

 

[Mori Jin]

You're so stupid. Tobi didn't even use kamui otherwise where is the warp? Stupid kid. :lol

So you're saying Obito's intangible ability (or phasing ability) is not part of kamui?

Minato dealt the "warp"

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Minato dealt with the phasing ability as well

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He dealt with both, Obito ran like the coward he is. Don't get mad over Mangafacts kid.

 

[Darth AniCetuS]

Yeah wrong. The world didn't know who the criminal attacking Minato was/whether Minato even fought a guy controlling Nine Tails. World thought Minato's only opponent was Nine tails thus hailed him a hero. He had Hiruzen's help on that so weak feat.

If the world knew what exactly had happened, that he fought someone else to wrest control of kyubi and then sealed it inside his son and sacrificed himself in the process then he'd be hailed as a even greater hero. As for why he made that decision then I've already explained that in my earlier posts.
Still if you wish to debate this further then take this in a separate thread and I'll be happy to reply further.

 

[Rikudou Tobi]

So you're saying Obito's intangible ability (or phasing ability) is not part of kamui?

Minato dealt the "warp"

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Intangible kamui is not Transfer kamui unless you want to argue that Kakashi's kamui is the same as warp Kamui too?

Minato dealt with the phasing ability as well

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That's not phasing you dumbass. 14 year old Tobi's phasing dealt with Minato:

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Needed help from Prime Hiruzen:

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Obito's hand speed dealt with FTG 3 (no kamui needed) :lol

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He dealt with both, Obito ran like the coward he is. Don't get mad over Mangafacts kid.

Obito killed his wife, orphan his son, and killed Minato while taking his leave. Read the manga kid because my post just dealt with yours.

 

[Uverdore9]

14 year old Obito literally faced the whole village. Had Nine Tails to control while beating Fourth easily. The Sfx and question mark signs in the split second last attack proves Obito's faster in movement speed than Minato. A 14 year old Obito.

 

[Calpal]

I think we can all agree obito was high tier. But obito with both of his eyes would have roflstomped w the strongest.
Double kamui ms was so strong the writer had to seperate the eyes from eachother before the tech was even unlocked. Lol

 

[Uverdore9]

I think we can all agree obito was high tier. But obito with both of his eyes would have roflstomped w the strongest.
Double kamui ms was so strong the writer had to seperate the eyes from eachother before the tech was even unlocked. Lol

Contradictory to what people think. Kamui single eye alone isn't that OP. Things like Amaterasu and Reverse Trigrams Sealing showcased by Danzo had Obito flee from spot. Kamui can't bypass certain things like that proven by canon.

 

[Darth Natsu Shazneel]

Its a jutsue Jiriyia should have learned for research.

 

[Char Aznable]

14 year old Obito literally faced the whole village. Had Nine Tails to control while beating Fourth easily. The Sfx and question mark signs in the split second last attack proves Obito's faster in movement speed than Minato. A 14 year old Obito.

Obito, bonded with Spiral Zetsu, possessing intel on Minato and his jutsus, armed with FTL teleportation and intangibility, and a berserker Kurama, attacked the village.


Meanwhile, Minato had to protect his newborn son, wife, the villagers, fight Obito, figure out his jutsu's ability and win the day by causing Obito to run for the hills.

Obito had all the power and momentum to win and he still lost.

 

[Uverdore9]

Obito, bonded with Spiral Zetsu, possessing intel on Minato and his jutsus, armed with FTL teleportation and intangibility, and a berserker Kurama, attacked the village.


Meanwhile, Minato had to protect his newborn son, wife, the villagers, fight Obito, figure out his jutsu's ability and win the day by causing Obito to run for the hills.

Obito had all the power and momentum to win and he still lost.

Minato had the whole support of the village. Another hokage and his team was pushing out the Nine Tails. Obito never knew FTG version 2. Obito never used his Gedo Mazou, Wood Element, Genjutsu which controlled three tailed jinchuuriki. The Sfx signs show a lot of question marks in Minato's head during the fight. If you didn't know question marks during frontier battles show the level of difficulty an opponent has in reaction speed/movement speed. Minato's movement speed lacked short of Obito's. Controlling nine tails took the toll on obito and he himself stated he underestimated Minato meaning he wasn't going all out because he had to keep the Nine tails in control/at least he thought he was still controlling him. Minato still said a holding back obito made the fight a split-second difference of who's faster and Minato never even won that split second speed contest. He had to use FTG 2 to trick him and obito was surprised and caught off guard. You should know by now how many leagues above obito is over Minato.