Would the U.S. Last is if it was all white?

[HowDidIGetPrem]

For the record I’m pro multiculturalism. I don’t believe in an ethnostate.
As I see it, most people are more aligned to their state than the actual United States. I live in Texas. Maybe just the major states do this.
Only when I here white minority, do I hear a call of white unification in a national level.
Why do we have senators and representatives? Because states have different priorities. Get rid of the minorities and guess what? Nothing changes. California has nothing to do with Maryland. There can be no unification under one culture. The states will break up and form a confederate style government. Which will just cause another form of separatism.
We will have Yankees vs southerners. We will have the educated vs laymen. Technos vs agriculturalists.

Why would states break up with nothing to fight over? The farmers of long ago aren't so common now and definitely don't encompass a huge chunk capable of splitting. It's so entwined with factories and processing that the two couldn't possibly face-off.
Our differences in culture by state isn't even in morals so much as food and tradition.

 

[HowDidIGetPrem]

This argument just gets you nowhere. It's pure speculated thoughts.

No, just no.

This is not gonna happen, period.

What's the point of opposing a hypothetical like this? I think it's a great question because so many things come into play.

 

[Yeah right]

Why would states break up with nothing to fight over? The farmers of long ago aren't so common now and definitely don't encompass a huge chunk capable of splitting. It's so entwined with factories and processing that the two couldn't possibly face-off.
Our differences in culture by state isn't even in morals so much as food and tradition.

States would break apart by the same reason the civil war started. Threats through economic disparity.
Going with the last part of your post, explain the difference you see from let’s say... Mexico.

 

[HowDidIGetPrem]

States would break apart by the same reason the civil war started. Threats through economic disparity.
Going with the last part of your post, explain the difference you see from let’s say... Mexico.

The civil war sprung up because the north wanted to get rid of their money makers. Without slaves, plantation owners would have never felt pressure from the north even if they could see the disparity. Another major difference is confederate supporters felt that it was more than something economical and infringement on their rights. Any actual disparity would just make people view it like any of the hundreds of jobs that weren't making men millionaires.


You've got to explain the part about Mexico because I barely know US history and not a smidge of Mexican.

 

[Yeah right]

The civil war sprung up because the north wanted to get rid of their money makers. Without slaves, plantation owners would have never felt pressure from the north even if they could see the disparity. Another major difference is confederate supporters felt that it was more than something economical and infringement on their rights. Any actual disparity would just make people view it like any of the hundreds of jobs that weren't making men millionaires.


You've got to explain the part about Mexico because I barely know US history and not a smidge of Mexican.

Civil war started for several reasons. What I wanted to focus on was how groups hate it when they have no control over what they want to see happen. Lincoln was able to be elected without any southern state voting for him. What would you think would happen if that occurred again in a all white country. Each side of the U.S. would want different things because each part of the U.S. has different economic influences.

You say that states only differ in food and traditions. So find a country around the United States that you do know that is not 100% and compare and contrast why they can not mix.

 

[kimb]

You don't know this, that's just an assumption. I'd advise you to be very careful.

However, I do feel as though if whites(europeans) never INTERFERED with any of the other continents. Things would be a lot better, and a lot more peaceful.

Interference and selfish desires are the main reasons behind all of this dysfunction.

Stop the interference...stop ruining the natural process of things.

America, today, is simply reaping what it's sowed. You "stole" it, it doesn't belong to you...simple as that.Anyone can jump in, and you've made that very clear. Stop "taking credit" for things, and acting as if it's OTHERS that's ruined your country...when it's simply "karma"...this is what they get.

Yes, I do know this. Evidence points racially homogenous societies being more cohesive than racially diverse societies.

And this word, "stole"? Do you know conquest was not exclusive to the west? We respect all other nation states that have acquired their lands and established their borders through conquest, but for some reason, America is the only that can never live down their past, dispite the fact that America being the first and largest force behind putting an end to conquest and colonialism.

You sound like a product of an U.S. education institution.

 

[Yeah right]

Yes, I do know this. Evidence points racially homogenous societies being more cohesive than racially diverse societies.

And this word, "stole"? Do you know conquest was not exclusive to the west? We respect all other nation states that have acquired their lands and established their borders through conquest, but for some reason, America is the only that can never live down their past, dispite the fact that America being the first and largest force behind putting an end to conquest and colonialism.

You sound like a product of an U.S. education institution.

Any the size of the U.S? Most are max the size of Texas. That’s why I think it will all break apart.

 

[Dreckerplayer]

Yes, I do know this. Evidence points racially homogenous societies being more cohesive than racially diverse societies.

No you don't. I know a charlatan ACT when I see one.

And this word, "stole"? Do you know conquest was not exclusive to the west? We respect all other nation states that have acquired their lands and established their borders through conquest, but for some reason, America is the only that can never live down their past, dispite the fact that America being the first and largest force behind putting an end to conquest and colonialism.

Oh hush, bunch of excuses.

You sound like a product of an U.S. education institution.

So rehearsed.

Again, you don't know what you're talking about, you're just manipulating information. Just a bunch of jumbled up twisted selective information.

lmao " you sound like a product of an U.S education institution"...you sound absolutely RIDICULOUS and that comment sounds so premeditated.

Just another solemnly pompous self-entitled genius that makes stuff up and manipulates information...

You just "assume" things.

 

[A Person]

Does not matter whether the people are slave trading cannibals or claim they are dictators and call themselves communists, see china. Prosperity of state is related to free market and enforcement of laws/contracts.

Also multiculturalism is a meme. Countries try hard to make people commit to some ideals above all else irrespective of their religion and culture like freedom and democracy in case of America.

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[Yeah right]

Does not matter whether the people are slave trading cannibals or claim they are dictators and call themselves communists, see china. Prosperity of state is related to free market and enforcement of laws/contracts.

Also multiculturalism is a meme. Countries try hard to make people commit to some ideals above all else irrespective of their religion and culture like freedom and democracy in case of America.

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So you give an antiquated guy’s opinion? Does anyone remember the old guy’s opinion where he thought rule by Divine right was the only secure way of government? Let’s use him as our basis for governance.

Also, bro, Aristotle is a meme. You are the vehicle for its tansmission.

Anyone have data to support their position or historical context for speculation!?

 

[Dreckerplayer]

Does not matter whether the people are slave trading cannibals or claim they are dictators and call themselves communists, see china. Prosperity of state is related to free market and enforcement of laws/contracts.

Also multiculturalism is a meme. Countries try hard to make people commit to some ideals above all else irrespective of their religion and culture like freedom and democracy in case of America.

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So "Aristotle" says ANYTHING, and you just believe it?

I think misconceptions cause dysfunction. We don't all have to be alike, but we certainly all have to live.

 

[kimb]

No you don't. I know a charlatan ACT when I see one.


Oh hush, bunch of excuses.


So rehearsed.

Again, you don't know what you're talking about, you're just manipulating information. Just a bunch of jumbled up twisted selective information.

lmao " you sound like a product of an U.S education institution"...you sound absolutely RIDICULOUS and that comment sounds so premeditated.

Just another solemnly pompous self-entitled genius that makes stuff up and manipulates information...

You just "assume" things.

You literally said nothing here, just conflated vitriol. There's nothing to respond to.

You're truly a cancer to this forum. You rarely add anything to the conversation in threads; you act provocative and lob slews of fabricated accusations and ad hominems that get people riled up and triggered -- maybe out of a desire for attention, maybe some sort of histrionic disorder, or maybe you truly believe what you say; who knows -- doesn't really matter.

Anyone who becomes accustom to your vitriol either ignore it, or mock it because they know it holds no weight. You literally direct the same 5 to 6 insults to everyone you encounter, and it becomes obvious that your responses are algorithmic. We give an input, and respond with a predictable output.

You've become a meme at this point.

 

[SamAdams]

The United States is too big to be one culture, one ideology, one whatever.

Didn't the civil war start because two different white groups didn't agree with each other? This was before immigrants.

You see it with eastern, middle, southern, northern, and western Americans. Wouldn't the U.S. eventually break apart into smaller nations.

China would disagree with you and they have a billion more people of the same race than America does.
Ultimately it comes down to values and as you can see America’s multiculturalism hasn’t made it a better place.

 

[JStar King]

China would disagree with you and they have a billion more people of the same race than America does.
Ultimately it comes down to values and as you can see America’s multiculturalism hasn’t made it a better place.

Same race but still has people who have different values and religious cultures. For example, the Hui people.

 

[Yeah right]

China would disagree with you and they have a billion more people of the same race than America does.
Ultimately it comes down to values and as you can see America’s multiculturalism hasn’t made it a better place.

Give further details on why multiculturalism has not made it a better place?
I thought everything across the board, from murder to small crimes have gone down.

I’m glad to hear that China has no seperatistism or inner turmoil that is bubbling. I’m also glad that even the poorest of poor in China are happy and live an equal lifestyle and have representative government that watches out for them and fulfills their needs.

 

[Ansatsuken]

I don't mean to come off as racist or anything, but if it were all white, it'd be much more preferable and advanced than it is now. A large part of Republican support rises out of dislike of immigration, racism, and vile profiling of some enemy. This eliminates those reasons by a decent extent and leaves them with a party that would rather not try to discredit science and vilify socialism. I wonder what crime would look like though. I imagine there would be a lot more poor whites than there are now.

Lol white Americans become lazier and lazier and less educated and obese over times so 100% white population doesn't guarantee the success Uncle Sam had today. White Americans of today are not same as white Americans of 70 or 50 or 40 years back then.

What determine the success of one country and maintaining the level of success is not just politics but the cream of the country aka population

 

[HowDidIGetPrem]

Lol white Americans become lazier and lazier and less educated and obese over times so 100% white population doesn't guarantee the success Uncle Sam had today. White Americans of today are not same as white Americans of 70 or 50 or 40 years back then.

What determine the success of one country and maintaining the level of success is not just politics but the cream of the country aka population

Politics influence the cream.

 

[Ansatsuken]

Politics influence the cream.

And the politics also drive by the same cream and producing the same outcome. Immigrants from all over the world have benefited USA. Unless racially homogenous white majority USA (99%) akin to China have homogenous people mentality like Asian people or some west European county is where I can see this hypothetical majority white USA can be a stable country in the long run and always looking for a betterment and success for long term. But seeing current white American in USA they really not having any uniformity but more individualistic. That drives them.

 

[Yeah right]

And the politics also drive by the same cream and producing the same outcome. Immigrants from all over the world have benefited USA. Unless racially homogenous white majority USA (99%) akin to China have homogenous people mentality like Asian people or some west European county is where I can see this hypothetical majority white USA can be stable and always looking for a betterment and success. But seeing current white American in USA they really not having any uniformity but more individualistic. That drives them.

USA is all about individualism. They forsake family (pointing to retirement home) family divorce is like 60%, 30% seek higher education, value money and social status.

 

[Ansatsuken]

USA is all about individualism. They forsake family (pointing to retirement home) family divorce is like 60%, 30% seek higher education, value money and social status.

So I think there will be more miss than a hit lol.