Was Sarada vs shinki to happen?

[Darth AniCetuS]

How is Gaara restricted if Gaara is not using his true power in the first place. Having a bijuu fight for you is not a display of someone's own power. Gaara was losing against Sasuke and used a cheap cop out and let the bijuu take over his emotions and humanity so he can fight a tired Sasuke. The excuses naruto fanboys go through to defend such an act is hilarious. To release the power of a tailed beast against a tired opponent and call it a legitimate win is down right pretentious on your part

The ability to use a bijuu and its chakra is a jin's power just like the sharingan is of the uchiha's. Its just too sad that uchiha faps are too triggered to acknowledge facts and have to make these stupid excuses to make themselves feel better lol.

 

[Shogo Makishima]

The ability to use a bijuu and its chakra is a jin's power just like the sharingan is of the uchiha's. Its just too sad that uchiha faps are too triggered to acknowledge facts and have to make these stupid excuses to make themselves feel better lol.

It's not their own power if the user can't even remain conscious to retain such abilties and especially if the user isn't even in control of his or her actions. I'm well aware of a jinchuriki status but I'm also aware the bijuu itself is a living creature with their own will

 

[Darth AniCetuS]

It's not their own power if the user can't even remain conscious to retain such abilties and especially if the user isn't even in control of his or her actions. I'm well aware of a jinchuriki status but I'm also aware the bijuu itself is a living creature with their own will

Well how the bijuu's power is used may differ but it is the jin's power as long as the jin is able to force it out of the bijuu regardless of their will or control them and make them cooperate. That's the entire reason the jins were created. To contain the bijuu and use its power for their own as per the manga and here you are telling me different lol.

 

[Shogo Makishima]

Well how the bijuu's power is used may differ but it is the jin's power as long as the jin is able to force it out of the bijuu regardless of their will or control them and make them cooperate. That's the entire reason the jins were created. To contain the bijuu and use its power for their own as per the manga and here you are telling me different lol.

Jins were used as military weapons so the bijuu itself can launch attack on other nations.

Nothing was said as a Jin, the bijuu was to be used for their own personal gain or intentions until a perfect Jin came along with full control over their bijuu. Simple difference between Jins with control over their bijuu and Jins who give up their free will.

 

[Darth AniCetuS]

Jins were used as military weapons so the bijuu itself can launch attack on other nations.

Nothing was said as a Jin, the bijuu was to be used for their own personal gain or intentions until a perfect Jin came along with full control over their bijuu. Simple difference between Jins with control over their bijuu and Jins who give up their free will.

@Bold There are no examples for that other than maybe Rin which again was setup by Madara to begin with. None of the villages wanted to loose their bijuus or jin as that would've left them defenseless against an invasion.

Well Killer Bee disagrees and all the other Jins out there except maybe Gaara who was deemed to be uncontrollable and was thus kind of used as such during the Konoha invasion but even then the sand village didn't intend for Gaara to die and let Shukaku loose as the bijuu's were a very important weapon and acted as a deterrence during peace time.

 

[Shogo Makishima]

@Bold There are no examples for that other than maybe Rin which again was setup by Madara to begin with. None of the villages wanted to loose their bijuus or jin as that would've left them defenseless against an invasion.

Well Killer Bee disagrees and all the other Jins out there except maybe Gaara who was deemed to be uncontrollable and was thus kind of used as such during the Konoha invasion but even then the sand village didn't intend for Gaara to die and let Shukaku loose as the bijuu's were a very important weapon and acted as a deterrence during peace time.

Why do you think Gaara was under orders by his sand village. The only way to get Gaara back under control was for someone to knock the shukaku control out of him: the sand village had a way of controlling Gaara and using the bijuu for their own gain but this does not equate for the person hosting the bijuu. The chunin exams is about using your own power not having a bijuu figh for you while you sleep

 

[Darth AniCetuS]

Why do you think Gaara was under orders by his sand village.

Does it matter why he was? The only thing that matters is that he was restricted in that fight.

The only way to get Gaara back under control was for someone to knock the shukaku control out of him:

Well that's definitely one way but who was around Gaara when he used the jutsu? Temari and maybe Kankuro following behind them and we already know both were scared of his normal form lol and Temari was planning to run away after he went into his released form. And we also know Gaara had no desire to die. So why do you think Gaara would use a jutsu were he had know control over its end unless he actually did have control. So doubt that that was the only way.

the sand village had a way of controlling Gaara and using the bijuu for their own gain but this does not equate for the person hosting the bijuu.

Lol the only reason Gaara was treated like a pariah by his dad was because he had given up on being able to control Gaara so no.

The chunin exams is about using your own power not having a bijuu fight for you while you sleep

@Bold In that case Naruto would've been disqualified but he wasn't so again a no. And while the bijuu is sealed inside the jin, its their power as long as they could use it no matter the means.

 

[Vulpini]

Monthly release and the pacing is so slow next time we see Shinki in the manga he'll probably be the Kazegake already.

OT: Yeah, I think it Sarada vs. Shin was supposed to happen in the semi finals. Sadly, it got interrupted.

Sarada vs. Shinki and Mitsuki vs. Shikadai, if I remeber correctly.

Chunin exams finals would've been Sarada vs. Mitsuki. lol

 

[Shogo Makishima]

Does it matter why he was? The only thing that matters is that he was restricted in that fight.



Well that's definitely one way but who was around Gaara when he used the jutsu? Temari and maybe Kankuro following behind them and we already know both were scared of his normal form lol and Temari was planning to run away after he went into his released form. And we also know Gaara had no desire to die. So why do you think Gaara would use a jutsu were he had know control over its end unless he actually did have control. So doubt that that was the only way.



Lol the only reason Gaara was treated like a pariah by his dad was because he had given up on being able to control Gaara so no.



@Bold In that case Naruto would've been disqualified but he wasn't so again a no. And while the bijuu is sealed inside the jin, its their power as long as they could use it no matter the means.

Fail point u just said temari and kankuro were scared of Gaara in that form. Gaara lacked self control since the bijuu would be in control and not Gaara. Where does it show Gaara has any sort of control over his bijuu if he needed to be asleep so the bijuu powers would come out.

Difference between Gaara and naruto was so obvious idk if this even deserves a serious reply

 

[Darth AniCetuS]

Fail point u just said temari and kankuro were scared of Gaara in that form. Gaara lacked self control since the bijuu would be in control and not Gaara. Where does it show Gaara has any sort of control over his bijuu if he needed to be asleep so the bijuu powers would come out.

Difference between Gaara and naruto was so obvious idk if this even deserves a serious reply

From what I've been reading from your posts, its your understanding that's failing lol. Temari and Kankuro were scared of him because he was mentally unstable and killed on a whim. But when it came to controlling the bijuu's power, he controlled it quite well all throughout the chunnin arc. No one even got wind of the fact that he was sand's jin. As for controlling his bijuu's powers, your understanding is lacking again.
There are various stages of controlling the bijuu as we've seen from his fight with Sasuke and Naruto. He was the one who released those stages and not the bijuu. If that's not control lol then I don't know what is. As for the Feigning Sleep Technique, it was him again who initiated the technique and knew full well what it would do. So again he was in control.

 

[Shogo Makishima]

From what I've been reading from your posts, its your understanding that's failing lol. Temari and Kankuro were scared of him because he was mentally unstable and killed on a whim. But when it came to controlling the bijuu's power, he controlled it quite well all throughout the chunnin arc. No one even got wind of the fact that he was sand's jin. As for controlling his bijuu's powers, your understanding is lacking again.
There are various stages of controlling the bijuu as we've seen from his fight with Sasuke and Naruto. He was the one who released those stages and not the bijuu. If that's not control lol then I don't know what is. As for the Feigning Sleep Technique, it was him again who initiated the technique and knew full well what it would do. So again he was in control.

That's not control. Releasing the Bijjus chakra because of the mental instability caused by his bijuu is not control not at all.having the bijuu roam free while you sleep again is it control over the bijuu. No matter how you try to twist the facts Gaara is not the one pulling the strings when he transforms

 

[Darth AniCetuS]

That's not control. Releasing the Bijjus chakra because of the mental instability caused by his bijuu is not control not at all.having the bijuu roam free while you sleep again is it control over the bijuu. No matter how you try to twist the facts Gaara is not the one pulling the strings when he transforms

Again you lack understanding. Sure he was unstable and easy to trigger, but its not his unstability that released the Bijuu but his anger over him being injured which pissed him bad. Go read the manga again before coming back with your lame ass assumptions. If there's any twisting of facts then its from your end not mine cuz its all in the manga.

@Bold Yeah it is when you're the one who initiate it of your own decision and know what it does. He let the bijuu fight for him like a summon.

 

[Shogo Makishima]

Again you lack understanding. Sure he was unstable and easy to trigger, but its not his unstability that released the Bijuu but his anger over him being injured which pissed him bad. Go read the manga again before coming back with your lame ass assumptions. If there's any twisting of facts then its from your end not mine cuz its all in the manga.

@Bold Yeah it is when you're the one who initiate it of your own decision and know what it does. He let the bijuu fight for him like a summon.

Agreee to disagree? Because I don't see how giving something over your conscious is the same as self control over a bijuu. The bijuu is fighting for you and you're not controlling its power it's slowly corroding your mind and you slowly give up your free will each time you use its power. Garra takes it to another level and lets the bijuu fight for him is not what he chunin exam is about he would have been immediately disqualified if that's how he were to use his Jin powers.


And running away from a fight to recooperate and let the bijuu fight for you is a pathetic win. Sasuke was the real winner of the fight if we're being realistic

 

[Darth AniCetuS]

Agreee to disagree? Because I don't see how giving something over your conscious is the same as self control over a bijuu. The bijuu is fighting for you and you're not controlling its power it's slowly corroding your mind and you slowly give up your free will each time you use its power. Garra takes it to another level and lets the bijuu fight for him is not what he chunin exam is about he would have been immediately disqualified if that's how he were to use his Jin powers.

That's fine by me. Anyway it is self control when you're the one initiating the technique knowing full well what it'll do. As I said just like a summoning Gaara's technique allows him to summon his bijuu out and fight for him.

@Bold He used the power of his free will. He wasn't forced by the bijuu inside to do it.

And I see nothing wrong with the bijuu fighting for you when you want them to while you relax. And we're not discussing just the chunnin exam but the entire fight so please stop bringing up the chunnin exam excuse.

And running away from a fight to recooperate and let the bijuu fight for you is a pathetic win. Sasuke was the real winner of the fight if we're being realistic

Again stop making excuses. Everyone knows Gaara wouldn't be in that position were he to use his full power from the start but he was restricted and Sasuke lost much before Gaara brought out Shukaku to fight for him. Gaara wouldn't even have to bring out Shukaku had Naruto not intervened and finished off Sasuke after toying with him a bit more. Sasuke lost that fight miserably.

 

[Shogo Makishima]

That's fine by me. Anyway it is self control when you're the one initiating the technique knowing full well what it'll do. As I said just like a summoning Gaara's technique allows him to summon his bijuu out and fight for him.

@Bold He used the power of his free will. He wasn't forced by the bijuu inside to do it.

And I see nothing wrong with the bijuu fighting for you when you want them to while you relax. And we're not discussing just the chunnin exam but the entire fight so please stop bringing up the chunnin exam excuse.



Again stop making excuses. Everyone knows Gaara wouldn't be in that position were he to use his full power from the start but he was restricted and Sasuke lost much before Gaara brought out Shukaku to fight for him. Gaara wouldn't even have to bring out Shukaku had Naruto not intervened and finished off Sasuke after toying with him a bit more. Sasuke lost that fight miserably.

Except the thread is about the chunin exams and no having a bijuu fight for you is it control over the bijuu nor does it give Gaara control over his bijuu for letting it fight for him. There's no proof Gaara can stop the technique at any given moment since he goes to sleep when the bijuu controls him. Gaara isn't restricted from using his full power you just said he has control over when the bijuu can be released? :lol: Gaara couldn't use it because Sasuke stopped him before he can bring it out . Gaara was defeated in the arena and ran away it's not an excuse but a fact

 

[Darth AniCetuS]

Except the thread is about the chunin exams and no having a bijuu fight for you is it control over the bijuu nor does it give Gaara control over his bijuu for letting it fight for him. There's no proof Gaara can stop the technique at any given moment since he goes to sleep when the bijuu controls him.

@Bold The thread is about Sarada vs Shinki fight during the chunnin exams not Gaara vs Sasuke and that fight was interrupted in the middle.

Bijuu fighting for you is control indeed when the bijuu just can't break free of the jin. And there's no proof that he can't stop the jutsu either but logically nobody especially someone like Gaara who wanted to live would cast a jutsu that they can't come out off. The whole idea is stupid to even imagine. My guess would be that the jutsu ends after a certain time and maybe the caster can even set how long the jutsu stays active.

Gaara isn't restricted from using his full power you just said he has control over when the bijuu can be released? :lol: Gaara couldn't use it because Sasuke stopped him before he can bring it out . Gaara was defeated in the arena and ran away it's not an excuse but a fact

@Bold

Gaara was restricted to bring it out even though he was pissed at being wounded he controlled it. Sasuke stopped nothing. And when Gaara did bring it out, it didn't take long for Sasuke to be lying down on the ground. Sasuke simply couldn't do a thing.
And Gaara didn't run away, the leaf's invasion started in the middle of their fight but if it hadn't and if Gaara was pushed then he'd have made a show of Sasuke in front of everyone. In that regard Sasuke was lucky lol.

 

[Shogo Makishima]

@Bold The thread is about Sarada vs Shinki fight during the chunnin exams not Gaara vs Sasuke and that fight was interrupted in the middle.

Bijuu fighting for you is control indeed when the bijuu just can't break free of the jin. And there's no proof that he can't stop the jutsu either but logically nobody especially someone like Gaara who wanted to live would cast a jutsu that they can't come out off. The whole idea is stupid to even imagine. My guess would be that the jutsu ends after a certain time and maybe the caster can even set how long the jutsu stays active.



@Bold

Gaara was restricted to bring it out even though he was pissed at being wounded he controlled it. Sasuke stopped nothing. And when Gaara did bring it out, it didn't take long for Sasuke to be lying down on the ground. Sasuke simply couldn't do a thing.
And Gaara didn't run away, the leaf's invasion started in the middle of their fight but if it hadn't and if Gaara was pushed then he'd have made a show of Sasuke in front of everyone. In that regard Sasuke was lucky lol.

The idea of a bijuu running rampant and Gaara mind who is not only sleeping but completely unstable won't be able to stop his own jutsu is stupid for you to imagine?

Lmfao where is your logic kid?

Lmfao the opposite sounds stupid when you stop and think about it. How was Gaara going to defeat Sasuke if he's crying from being wounded one second and then his mind went completely blank the next. Someone needs to read the manga as Gaara left the fight and couldn't continue that's why he retreated or else he would have release the bijuu right then and there

 

[Darth AniCetuS]

The idea of a bijuu running rampant and Gaara mind who is not only sleeping but completely unstable won't be able to stop his own jutsu is stupid for you to imagine?

And the same unstable person able to hide his identity of being a jin so well despite his unstablity. He was unstable not dumb. I hope you know the difference...

Lmfao where is your logic kid?

I get it why have to deal with this stupidity lol. Some people are simply too dumb to understand plain and simple logic...:lol

Lmfao the opposite sounds stupid when you stop and think about it. How was Gaara going to defeat Sasuke if he's crying from being wounded one second and then his mind went completely blank the next. Someone needs to read the manga as Gaara left the fight and couldn't continue that's why he retreated or else he would have release the bijuu right then and there

He wasn't crying the entire chapter lol. Sasuke was lucky to be not humiliated in front of everyone. That too after he learnt such a cool jutsu from Kakashi. Had Gaara not pulled back his partial transformation, it'd have been game over for Sasuke. Guess Gaara revealing his identity as a jin would've made the sand's intention clear before they actually wanted and thus he gained his composure controlled the transformation but felt its effects.

 

[Shogo Makishima]

And the same unstable person able to hide his identity of being a jin so well despite his unstablity. He was unstable not dumb. I hope you know the difference...



I get it why have to deal with this stupidity lol. Some people are simply too dumb to understand plain and simple logic...:lol



He wasn't crying the entire chapter lol. Sasuke was lucky to be not humiliated in front of everyone. That too after he learnt such a cool jutsu from Kakashi. Had Gaara not pulled back his partial transformation, it'd have been game over for Sasuke. Guess Gaara revealing his identity as a jin would've made the sand's intention clear before they actually wanted and thus he gained his composure controlled the transformation but felt its effects.

Right equating Gaara mental stability with the fact he was able to hide his gen powers through the exam means he is fully capable of containing his bijuu right?


O wait your dumbass forgot he unleashed the beast against Sasuke before the plan was even suppose to begin I wasn't completely sure if you were a trolll before but now I see that you are.

The mentally unstable kid who is asleep now has full control over a powerful bijuu who is making him that way lamo retards say the dumbest things.

 

[Darth AniCetuS]

Right equating Gaara mental stability with the fact he was able to hide his gen powers through the exam means he is fully capable of containing his bijuu right?

Well didn't he? He only used it when he wanted to.

O wait your dumbass forgot he unleashed the beast against Sasuke before the plan was even suppose to begin I wasn't completely sure if you were a trolll before but now I see that you are.

@Bold Exaclty, he unleashed it....

But then pulled it back ofc. I am the one posting facts here lol. I know you're triggered, have been for long but don't make yourself look even more stupid by calling me a troll when you're the one posting your delusional fapfic here.

The mentally unstable kid who is asleep now has full control over a powerful bijuu who is making him that way lamo retards say the dumbest things.

Calm down no need to be triggered over facts lol but I never said or agreed to what you're trying to imply here. And I agree @Bold and concession accepted.
Can't help if people are dumb. Still I tried...:th: