Madera Chakra avatars are weaker than then Kisame's actual body

[Nerosmoke]

Do people belive madera is stronger then Kisame? Kisame was able to tank a after noon tiger from 7th Gate Might guy when Gays tiger when blasting sunaoo destroyed Madera making him regen.

 

[InfiniteMugen]

Heh...

 

[Avery Uchiha]

Bad troll, do a better job next time.

 

[Rikudou Tobi]

Well flesh is a lot more denser than chakra so it would make sense that he'll live.

 

[SumnNarutoRelated]

Well flesh is a lot more denser than chakra so it would make sense that he'll live.

what lol

 

[Rikudou Tobi]

what lol

I mean like say for instance when Tsunade did a full swing punch to armless Orochimaru's face, he didn't explode or crumble into pieces but when Tsunade punched ribcage susano'o it started to crack and chip into pieces.
That doesn't mean Oro's face>Susano'o but the reason why it stayed in tact is because it's suppose to.

Same instance with Kisame's body and Legged Susano'o.

 

[SumnNarutoRelated]

I mean like say for instance when Tsunade did a full swing punch to armless Orochimaru's face, he didn't explode or crumble into pieces but when Tsunade punched ribcage susano'o it started to crack and chip into pieces.
That doesn't mean Oro's face>Susano'o but the reason why it stayed in tact is because it's suppose to.

Same instance with Kisame's body and Legged Susano'o.

oh ok. this makes sense.

but this is another reason why science doesn't belong in anime. Because if something can break a susanoo, that same thing should shatter a face without any trouble.

 

[Char Aznable]

oh ok. this makes sense.

but this is another reason why science doesn't belong in anime. Because if something can break a susanoo, that same thing should shatter a face without any trouble.

Just like Sasuke's Amaterasu (flames as hot as the sun) should've turned Gaara's sand into glass when they fought at the Gokage Summit, but it didn't happen.

Kishi don't logic and Kishi don't science.

 

[Nerosmoke]

oh ok. this makes sense.

but this is another reason why science doesn't belong in anime. Because if something can break a susanoo, that same thing should shatter a face without any trouble.

Thing is Kisame face was fine after being hit by the after noon tiger and Madera was destoryed with Sunaoo.

 

[Mori Jin]

Madara > Any version of Kisame.

 

[Nerosmoke]

Madara > Any version of Kisame.

If Madera is better why was he not able to tank the after noon tiger?

 

[Mori Jin]

If Madera is better why was he not able to tank the after noon tiger?

Didn't need to

 

[Jinrou]

Just like Sasuke's Amaterasu (flames as hot as the sun) should've turned Gaara's sand into glass when they fought at the Gokage Summit, but it didn't happen.

Kishi don't logic and Kishi don't science.

But Science was exactly what Kishi used for Gaara to be able to trap/defeat Joki boy though xD

 

[Nerosmoke]

But Science was exactly what Kishi used for Gaara to be able to trap/defeat Joki boy though xD

I think Gaara has specal sand.

 

[Jinrou]

I think Gaara has specal sand.

No he doesn't. I can't recollect how it all went down.. But i vaguely remember him using the real life science type application of gold dust to bring down Joki boy.

 

[Nerosmoke]

No he doesn't. I can't recollect how it all went down.. But i vaguely remember him using the real life science type application of gold dust to bring down Joki boy.

That was gold. Gaaras sand is specal and never said whats in it.

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I've noticed on more than a few occasions that alot of people don't realize that Gaara has two types of sand that he has at his disposal. I shall educate you all who thinks differently (no offence ._.) There will be really small feats listed as well.

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The sand in Gaara's gorde is specially made.

Deidara explains Gaara's Special Sand in very accurate detial.[

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] The sand in Gaara gorde has been mixed with lots of chakra. The sand in his gorde is extremely fast, and has even

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. The flames said to burn away anything it touches even fail against Gaara's Special Sand/Ultimate Defense, as it doesn't burn away the sand.

When using his Special Sand, Gaara's attack and defense speed are alike. Gaara blocked Deidara's bomb while being completely distracted by trying to catch his breath.[

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Gaara's SS is even suggested to be stronger than Shukaku's, as Gaara

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When debating with Gaara, I've had an opponent say that he only has the amount of sand in his Gorde at his disposal. I'll explain just how wrong that is.

It's but a simple matter for Gaara to create his own sand. To make more sand, Gaara

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the minerals in the earth. Although this sand doesn't have as much chakra molded in it as his Special Sand, it does posses incredible durabilty.

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was able to successfully gaurd the entire center of Sunagakure from Deidara's strongest chakra level that's

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. By using harder and thicker minerals, Gaara protected all of his citizens. The sand that was thought to be Shukakau's hand is actually Gaara

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. By doing so, Gaara increaes his sand's sharpness.

The amount of sand Gaara can control is quite impressive as well. By just

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, he used and inserted his chakra into sand

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. This also expresseses how far his reach goes.

 

[Jinrou]

That was gold. Gaaras sand is specal and never said whats in it.

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haha.. Awesome quote. I'm always up for some Gaara the Kazekage praise but you have to realize my first post was referring to Gold dust and Science.

And i was pretty sure it was common knowledge Gaara infuses chakra into the sand in his gourd but it doesn't change the characteristics of the sand. It only makes the sand move faster and makes it stronger/more durable. So if you think that makes it special then that's ok.. I only see it as a faster and more durable sand because of chakra.

That part about Gaara having control > Shukaku seems so-so. He was losing the sand battle against his dad's gold until he used an aerial distraction which made Rasa lose focus on the gold he was controlling and Gaara used that small time-frame to raise his sand.

Its been stated many times in the manga that a bijuu's powers can only be harnessed in an efficient manner while in a Jinchuriki anyways.

Also that part about raising his hand and sending chakra outside the village. That seems incorrect. Gaara seems able to manipulate sand from everywhere chakra or not seeing as there are sand particles in the air also. [

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[Nerosmoke]

haha.. Awesome quote. I'm always up for some Gaara the Kazekage praise but you have to realize my first post was referring to Gold dust and Science.

And i was pretty sure it was common knowledge Gaara infuses chakra into the sand in his gourd but it doesn't change the characteristics of the sand. It only makes the sand move faster and makes it stronger/more durable. So if you think that makes it special then that's ok.. I only see it as a faster and more durable sand because of chakra.

That part about Gaara having control > Shukaku seems so-so. He was losing the sand battle against his dad's gold until he used an aerial distraction which made Rasa lose focus on the gold he was controlling and Gaara used that small time-frame to raise his sand.

Its been stated many times in the manga that a bijuu's powers can only be harnessed in an efficient manner while in a Jinchuriki anyways.

Also that part about raising his hand and sending chakra outside the village. That seems incorrect. Gaara seems able to manipulate sand from everywhere chakra or not seeing as there are sand particles in the air also. [

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]. Dat Gaara.. So cool. Omg!

I think the sand he was holding down was the normal sand. and the sand around his body was the specal sand. that being said. gaaras sand is not sand it's a special mix of unknown material as sand turns to glass and normal durt does not,