Sarada abilities with 1 Tomoe Explained.

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While most people are stating that Sarada's new abilities are far fetched since it's only 1 Tomoe. We must remember that in this manga Ocular abilities of the Sharingan can be performed with a lessor eye with a few key components.

But Mellanoma what are you talking about?

Well, to simplify it with examples let me explain.

Through the series Sharingan abilities have been replicated with lower level eyes simply by the user having

1) Potent Chakra
2) Powerful chakra Control
3) Other Alterations



The reason Sarada is capable of performing such amazing feats with 1 tomo is due to the fact that:

1) Her Father has the most potent/powerful chakra in the series

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2) Her mother's chakra control is perfect

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This Chakra mixture of potency and perfect control is why Sarada is capable of performing abilities no other person can perform with 1 tomoe.


But Mellanoma! It's not canon for lesser eyes to do stronger abilities.

INCORRECT!!

The manga has shown us multiple times what a lesser eye can do when the user of said eye has Potent Chakra AND/OR Perfect chakra control.


1) MS Kakashi using Perfect susanoo (EMS Ability) WITH Obito's powerful Chakra

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2) Obito Opening non Kamui dimension (Rinnegan Ability) WITH Sakura's Chakra
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Sakura is boss as always. Anyone who has any doubts if it was sakura's chakra which led obito to open the portal, then explain why obito's eyes bled this time and not in any of his past kamui usages. Nice thread. Sakura's chakra so perfect and potent.
 

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Agreed.

Most of people's assumptions on the Sharingan's abilities are based on their understanding. There were never any real limit or ability stated with each tomoe.

Anyway Sasuke is the sage of 6 paths she's his daughter so she'd be similar to Indra was. She'd naturally be stronger in her abilities because of it.

As for chakra control Kakashi mentioned that somebody who could learn tree climbing perfectly could learn nearly any jutsu. A medics chakra control is at the highest level and CES is an application of that advanced chakra control. Sarada has CES so has extremely advanced chakra control.

Coupling the Sharingan's abilities, being the child of the sage of 6 paths with perfect chakra control I wouldn't expect anything less from her tbh.
 
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Agreed.

Most of people's assumptions on the Sharingan's abilities are based on their understanding. There were never any real limit or ability stated with each tomoe.

Anyway Sasuke is the sage of 6 paths she's his daughter so she'd be similar to Indra was. Shed naturally be stronger in her abilities because of it.

As for chakra control Kakashi mentioned that somebody who could learn tree climbing perfectly could learn nearly any jutsu. A medics chakea control is at the highest level and CES is an application of advanced chakra control. Sarada has CES so has extremely high chakra control.

Coupling the Sharingan, being the child of the sage of 6 paths with perfect chakra control I wouldn't expect anything less from her.
Yeah its the hyuga fanbase misconception. Sharingan was said to be able to copy every jutsu ignoring both hand seals and chakra which 99.9% shinobi use to perform ninjutsu. I dont why they say one tomoe cant do what it did when the db doesnt give any limitations. Matter of fact it says sharingan can use other jutsus by copying limitlessly. Otherwise a non uchiha like kakasgi cannot copy 1000 techniques lmao. How much is that? A true uchiha would copy a billion techniques if necessary and they have the geniusness to master all the copied techniques as sasuke stated so that makes them the unrivalled deadly combo in ninja history. I'm just thinking if any one can beat a madara + shisui + itachi + Sasuke + fugaku combo like seriously. Even if all the clans team together they'll still lose. Uchihas can control nine tails, can control 80000 people at the same time(itachi can according to Ao), can control someone without them knowing, can control nine tails psyche and can control a man atleast(sasuke controlled a yotsuki clan member of hidden cloud village), superior as hell ninjutsu, if they lack some jutsu they can just copy it, thier children with one tomoe can start copying and practicing high difficulty jutsu at a young age, has higher than shikamaru intellect( shikamaru himself admitted sasuke was leagues anove him in geniusness). What else do you need to be the big hax machine of an entire verse? And here some intellectual sages are trying to debate whether one tomoe feats are plothole or not, ignoring avatar transmigration and hyakugou perfect chakra control and potency which allowed obito travel a foreign dimension of the rinne-sharingan with base Mangekyou lmfao.
 
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Great post.

I might seem overly critical though.. but wasn't Perfect Susanoo said to be the ultimate MS ability in a databook? I think i read so in a thread a few days ago..

And that Sakura bit wasn't particularly based on control. Obito did think he would be able to bring Sasuke back [ ] but was certain he didn't have the chakra for it. [ ].. They were lucky Kaguya opted to enter the root dimension also [ ]

Also Mirai's genjutsu? Do you think it was an S-rank level gen.. because Sakura for all her lack of fighting ability was able to resist and cancel an A-ranked genjutsu in p1 due to her exceptional CC.
 

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Great post.

I might seem overly critical though.. but wasn't Perfect Susanoo said to be the ultimate MS ability in a databook? I think i read so in a thread a few days ago..

And that Sakura bit wasn't particularly based on control. Obito did think he would be able to bring Sasuke back [ ] but was certain he didn't have the chakra for it. [ ].. They were lucky Kaguya opted to enter the root dimension also [ ]

Also Mirai's genjutsu? Do you think it was an S-rank level gen.. because Sakura for all her lack of fighting ability was able to resist and cancel an A-ranked genjutsu in p1 due to her exceptional CC.
Mirai and her mother are genjutsu specialist. They’re above S rank
 

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There is no real explanation to filler feats, call me when Sarada do something similar in the source material. Until then, it's most likely filler :)
 

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No it's not like that

This so called lesser eyes met the requirment to used such power.

1) Kakashi is using PS. Its well known fact that MS is the level needed to unlock PS. Uchina needs an EMS to overcome MS's defect. But with Rikudou chakra *not Obito strong chakra* Kakashi can use PS using MS.

2) Obito need to sync his Kamui with yomotsu hirasaka to allow him an access to Kaguya's dimensions. Without syncing his Kamui first he couldn't accessing Kaguya's dimension.

But both have its capability established but in the case of 1 tomoe its not. So we call it asspull
 

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No it's not like that

This so called lesser eyes met the requirment to used such power.

1) Kakashi is using PS. Its well known fact that MS is the level needed to unlock PS. Uchina needs an EMS to overcome MS's defect. But with Rikudou chakra *not Obito strong chakra* Kakashi can use PS using MS.

2) Obito need to sync his Kamui with yomotsu hirasaka to allow him an access to Kaguya's dimensions. Without syncing his Kamui first he couldn't accessing Kaguya's dimension.

But both have its capability established but in the case of 1 tomoe its not. So we call it asspull
Where does it say one tomoe cant copy?
 

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No it's not like that

This so called lesser eyes met the requirment to used such power.

1) Kakashi is using PS. Its well known fact that MS is the level needed to unlock PS. Uchina needs an EMS to overcome MS's defect. But with Rikudou chakra *not Obito strong chakra* Kakashi can use PS using MS.

2) Obito need to sync his Kamui with yomotsu hirasaka to allow him an access to Kaguya's dimensions. Without syncing his Kamui first he couldn't accessing Kaguya's dimension.

But both have its capability established but in the case of 1 tomoe its not. So we call it asspull
That was just in Sasukes case. Sasuke and Sarada are different. And this scan explain why Sarada can copy, Sasuke needed a personal connection to motivate him , Sarada doesn't because of the chakra control


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But Sakura was definitely needed to access Kaguya dimension, it's a fact that byakugou amplify attacks, see Tsunade and onooki, because they where too far away for obito alone
 

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That was just in Sasukes case. Sasuke and Sarada are different. And this scan explain why Sarada can copy, Sasuke needed a personal connection to motivate him , Sarada doesn't because of the chakra control


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But Sakura was definitely needed to access Kaguya dimension, it's a fact that byakugou amplify attacks, see Tsunade and onooki, because they where too far away for obito alone
Yeah okay..I never took Naruto serious anymore.
 

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That was just in Sasukes case. Sasuke and Sarada are different. And this scan explain why Sarada can copy, Sasuke needed a personal connection to motivate him , Sarada doesn't because of the chakra control


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But Sakura was definitely needed to access Kaguya dimension, it's a fact that byakugou amplify attacks, see Tsunade and onooki, because they where too far away for obito alone
Onoki didnt have the guts to use particle element before tsunade's chakra was given to him or it's a plothole.
 
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