Kurotsuchi 4 Tsuchikage and the strongest kunoichi in the world currently

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Kurotsuchi beats her.

She could barely handle fighting Shin and i'm expected to believe she's capable of fighting a kage who managed to restrict and land blows on Kenshiki.
 

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Sakura doesn't neg Kuro, I'm objective enough to say that it could go either way high diff. I lean twords Sakura because she has more chakra, stamina by feats, regeneration and legendary summon immune to physical attacks. Sakura managed to land a clean blow on a MS user who had the means to perceive her and counter her movements so let's not.
 

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Not every versus has to be to the death, even if that were to be the case, it's a non-factor.

In Taijutsu Kurotsuchi would have no issue fighting Sakura. This is more than obvious.

In Ninjutsu, Sakura has roughly 5 justu, not counting her cherry blossom attacks (which are just really strong punches/kicks) and academy jutsu. One of which includes summoning (katsuyu) and basic healing. Her main offensive ninjutsu is her seal which is used to enhance her attacks.

Kurotsuchi has 6 Ninjutsu of varying elements and KKG. All of which can be used to restrict movement and flank and/or cause serious damage.

There's not a single feat implying Sakura has the strength to break free of Yōton: Kaisekifū no Jutsu, much less any of her other jutsu. Especially given the fact that Shin was capable of restricting her movements with nothing more than Kunai.



People are comparing a Kage to a medical Jonin in a fight. A Kage with a move-set that specifically screws Sakura over in CQC.
 
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Kurotsuchi beats her.

She could barely handle fighting Shin and i'm expected to believe she's capable of fighting a kage who managed to restrict and land blows on Kenshiki.

Its not about 1 vs 1 its overall .

Kurotsuchi has good CQC feats not inferior to Sakura's anyway.

She has ranged jutsus ( unlike Sakura) , defensive jutsus ( unlike Sakura) , she can move underground and launch surprise attacks on her enemies ( unlike Sakura), has powerful sealing jutsus, 3 nature elements and 1 KKG compared to Sakura's none nature element or KKG , or sealing jutsu ( those you used against opponent not on yourself).

Overall she is stronger as heavily implied by Shikamaru.
 

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What is up with the slew of VS threads lately? The common factor is the OP’s aren’t interested in intelligent debate surrounding their characters battling others. It’s a wank fest where the OP tells everyone to piss off because their character is the best and magically counters every single check the community can come up with.

I still think Sakura pulls off the win in this one given what we know about her. Claiming she lacks the Jutsu to fight Kurotsuchi is ignorant when we consider it took 700 chapters for Naruto to use a basic Earth Style Technique. Just because they aren’t part of her fighting style doesn’t mean she couldn’t make use of other techniques. Never thought I’d see the day I defended Sakura, but come on.
 

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What is up with the slew of VS threads lately? The common factor is the OP’s aren’t interested in intelligent debate surrounding their characters battling others. It’s a wank fest where the OP tells everyone to piss off because their character is the best and magically counters every single check the community can come up with.

I still think Sakura pulls off the win in this one given what we know about her. Claiming she lacks the Jutsu to fight Kurotsuchi is ignorant when we consider it took 700 chapters for Naruto to use a basic Earth Style Technique. Just because they aren’t part of her fighting style doesn’t mean she couldn’t make use of other techniques. Never thought I’d see the day I defended Sakura, but come on.
Prior to earth style, Naruto had massive chakra reserves, a forbidden jutsu, Kurama chakra boosting his physcial capabilities, summons, and a jutsu created by his father. That was only in part 1.

He went on to add Wind elements to his rasengan.
Gain a higher form via Sage mode allowing him to sense
Gained control of Kurama allowing even more power and happened to be a reincarnation of a powerful being.


You're the one being ignorant with what your saying @bold. With all Naruto had going for him, he didn't need earth style as much as Sakura needs jutsu to combat Kurotsuchi. It's not even a stomp. But the favor is within Kurotsuchi's odds given her moveset and attack goals.

Sakura is 9/10 looking to break your bones or poison you. Both of which are going to require CQC. If all else fails she can rely on her outlasting her opponent via healing.

That's Sakura's attack goals:
-Poison you (have to be within range)
-Break you (CQC)
-Outlast you

Kurotsuchi isn't a slouch in CQC and has more and enough means to restrict her movements if not, outright stop her.

Kurotsuchi attack goals are more than that of Sakura.
-Seal you
-Break you (CQC)
-Assassinate you (Doton: Moguragakure no Jutsu)
-Kill you (Lava release/Water Release)

And she has more than enough means to do all of the above.
 
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I have right to use anime I don't care if it is filler ,BTW entire Sakura anime fight against Shin is filler but I never accused you for using them.


You do understand that including filler feats in any argument automatically is the equalivent to giving yourself an L right? Like damn grasshopper your suppose to let your opponent try and kill your argument, not kill your own.

Not sure where I said Sakura can't react on acid :wut:
You implied it by posting a scan that followed with "Kuro can spit acid" as if her spitting the acid is indicative to her superiorness to Sakura.

You said this " Sakura managed to land a clean blow on a MS user who had the means to perceive her and counter her movements so let's not "

Kurotsuchi managed to land clean blow on a Byakugan user who had the means to perceive her and counter her movements so lets not
The difference is that Kuro's opponent didn't have the ocular means to see her coming from beneath the earth while Sakura's had the 12× the means to see her charge him.
Anyway Kinshiki >>> Shin .
Anyway, Sakura could've done the same thing to Kinshiki if she were uproot from the earth in silence.

Out maneuvering 12 active MS head on while screaming cha!>>>>>sneaking Kinshiki from under the earth.

Shikamaru statement and Kurotsuchis jutsus arsenal make her stronger overall .
Fanfic.

He said nothing about anyone's arsenal overall, he divulged on the dynamic of the team and how it was the best to rescue Naruto.
 

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I love how they realized that Hinata is no match for Sakura so they use other Kunoichis to try their chances. Love it.
-Sakura is one of the strongest females in the series. (that's like top 10 by default given the few females in the series)

-Hinata isn't a shinobi anymore and the argument of who beats who had been obvious for some time now unless feats are presented. Prior it was more of a debate but as of now there's a lack of feats.

- You're bringing up Hinata rather than being constructive. Which isn't conducive to the topic of this thread. I say that because the OP was about how Kurotsuchi is the strongest kunoichi and rather than try to debunk this you bring up someone irrelevant(Hinata).
 

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Out maneuvering 12 active MS head on while screaming cha!>>>>>sneaking Kinshiki from under the earth.
>claims she out maneuvers 12 MS sharingan

> Cannon feats show her failing too do so in her fight with him at the hide out and shows him able to tag her in combat by lunging a knife into her arm



Oh the irony
 

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-Sakura is one of the strongest females in the series. (that's like top 10 by default given the few females in the series)

-Hinata isn't a shinobi anymore and the argument of who beats who had been obvious for some time now unless feats are presented. Prior it was more of a debate but as of now there's a lack of feats.

- You're bringing up Hinata rather than being constructive. Which isn't conducive to the topic of this thread. I say that because the OP was about how Kurotsuchi is the strongest kunoichi and rather than try to debunk this you bring up someone irrelevant(Hinata).
Nah. You couldn't know because you are repeadly banned the OP just posted the same thread yesterday about Tsunade not being the most powerful Kunoichi because Temari is.

Anyone can see through his intention here.
 

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Again.

Hinata is a sensor-type shinobi from a sensor/scout team. (Kiba/Shino/Hinata) they saw her strong points.

Sakura is a medical-type shinobi from a artificially created team (Uchiha Orphan/Jinchuriki).

Kurotsuchi was a 18 year old Jonin and Bodyguard to the third Tsuchikage (Onnoki)



People seriously have to learn their lanes. Just because you have CQC chops (CES and Gentle Fist) doesn't mean you can fight someone who are actual infantry (aka front lines).


There's a reason she was placed in the Sentō Kinkyori Butai during the war.

Sakura was placed on the Sentō Kinchūkyori Butai to support the Sentō Kinkyori Butai. (But with Kakashi as commander and Gai as backup it may as well been the reverse).


Sakura is strong as shit, but she is a medic first and foremost (even when she doesn't think so)

Hinata is a sensor first no matter what Clan shes from and what Taijutsu she has.

Kurotsuchi isn't like those two.

Tsunade is closer to Kurotsuchi due to experience, role and jutsu.
 
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>claims she out maneuvers 12 MS sharingan
The manga presented as such.

Cannon feats show her failing too do so in her fight with him at the hide out and shows him able to tag her in combat by lunging a knife into her arm
Doesn't negate her previous feat that she did in fact out maneuver them (the 12x sharningan) previously. Her having blades in her arm and seeing a moving attack coming for her and not her twords it is a different scenario.


Nice try, that's all you get.
 

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The manga presented as such.



Doesn't negate her previous feat that she did in fact out maneuver them (the 12x sharningan) previously. Her having blades in her arm and seeing a moving attack coming for her and not her twords it is a different scenario.


Nice try, that's all you get.
She didn't outmaneuver 12 MS sharingan.

She hit him faster than his body could react to.

You're implying she's faster than MS sharingan. If that was the case then she would be a serious threat to someone like Taka Sasuke.
 

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Doesn't negate her previous feat that she did in fact out maneuver them (the 12x sharningan) previously. Her having blades in her arm and seeing a moving attack coming for her and not her twords it is a different scenario. .
It does.

If she had the speed to do that outright, Then shin is fucked, End of. She does what you claim she can do, Lands another punch in exactly the same way, Low diff, GG, Shin dead, Sasuke arrives beats little shin, all go home.
Not only did she fail to do that, Shin's eyes were able to follow and track her enough to land a hit on her. Both and manga and the anime support her not having the speed to blitz his sharingan.


It's really simple common sense.
 

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She didn't outmaneuver 12 MS sharingan.
Yes she did, all 12 of his eyes were pointed in the direction that Sakura attacked him from and each eye was active. Shins eyes instantly rolled to the back of his head responding to Sasukes Katon meanwhile Sakura attacked him dead on, they should've picked her up.

She hit him faster than his body could react to.
Correction, got close enough to shin and landed a hit before his eyes could perceive her.
 

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Prior to earth style, Naruto had massive chakra reserves, a forbidden jutsu, Kurama chakra boosting his physcial capabilities, summons, and a jutsu created by his father. That was only in part 1.

He went on to add Wind elements to his rasengan.
Gain a higher form via Sage mode allowing him to sense
Gained control of Kurama allowing even more power and happened to be a reincarnation of a powerful being.


You're the one being ignorant with what your saying @bold. With all Naruto had going for him, he didn't need earth style as much as Sakura needs jutsu to combat Kurotsuchi. It's not even a stomp. But the favor is within Kurotsuchi's odds given her moveset and attack goals.

Sakura is 9/10 looking to break your bones or poison you. Both of which are going to require CQC. If all else fails she can rely on her outlasting her opponent via healing.

That's Sakura's attack goals:
-Poison you (have to be within range)
-Break you (CQC)
-Outlast you

Kurotsuchi isn't a slouch in CQC and has more and enough means to restrict her movements if not, outright stop her.

Kurotsuchi attack goals are more than that of Sakura.
-Seal you
-Break you (CQC)
-Assassinate you (Doton: Moguragakure no Jutsu)
-Kill you (Lava release/Water Release)

And she has more than enough means to do all of the above.
Lava release has succeeded 1 out of a 1000 times it was used lmao. And how fast is it? Definitely slower than the Fireball jutsu since it's heavier, and how many times the Fireball jutsu burned anyone? So Lava release is useless, much like Water release if Sakura's punch can push away a heavy falling debris and obliterate it even.

CES >>> Suition and useless Lava Release with almost 0.08 success rate.
 
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It does.

If she had the speed to do that outright, Then shin is fucked, End of. She does what you claim she can do, Lands another punch in exactly the same way, Low diff, GG, Shin dead, Sasuke arrives beats little shin, all go home.
Not only did she fail to do that, Shin's eyes were able to follow and track her enough to land a hit on her. Both and manga and the anime support her not having the speed to blitz his sharingan.
It does not.

Sakura blitzed Shin with an initial attack by managing to out pace the preception of his eyes initially. When Sakura laid shin out it wasn't in the jux of a battle or a 1v1 fight... it was a skillful, swift and deadly surprise attack that took Stealth. Sakura losing the fight to shin in the arena your reverting it back to simply means in a drawn out battle she's not even matched against shin and I've never claimed the opposite.

Again Sakura out maneuver the preception of 12 MS eyes with her initial attack on shin in the manga and it's a noteworthy feat considering Kuros surprise attack.
 

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Kurotsuchi wins imo.

Yes she did, all 12 of his eyes were pointed in the direction that Sakura attacked him from and each eye was active. Shins eyes instantly rolled to the back of his head responding to Sasukes Katon meanwhile Sakura attacked him dead on, they should've picked her up.



Correction, got close enough to shin and landed a hit before his eyes could perceive her.

Now I know you're rastsa. That deepthroat comment and then your username being Melanin.
 
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