Can the Gentle Fist obliterate a Susanoo?

[Rock Slayer]

Thus seems to be the case from Nejis statement

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Maybe obliterate is too exaggerated, but it can possibly cut through the chakra a Susanoo is made of.

 

[Made in Heaven]

Read the manga

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[salamander uchiha]

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That's not a GF technique please read the manga he'll it's not even a Byakugan technique.

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No active Byakugan when it's used.

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The following page no active Byakugan until Naruto starts surrounding her. So it's confirmed that it's not a Byakugan jutsu anyway. No active Byakugan with it's use but their is an active rinnesharingan. At least we know what the perfect dojutsu is:bdpf:

 

[Belserion]

Ototsuki level Gentle Fist can.(Hanabi is Ototsuki level you know)

 

[salamander uchiha]

Ototsuki level Gentle Fist can.(Hanabi is Ototsuki level you know)

Of course Hnabai Hime can

 

[unknownvillain1254]

That's not a GF technique please read the manga he'll it's not even a Byakugan technique.

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No active Byakugan with it's use but their is an active rinnesharingan. At least we know what the perfect dojutsu is:bdpf:

Yes it is the fundamentals are and completely do the same and even in the description it says a form of gentle fist

 

[DeadManWonderLand]

The Eight Trigrams Twin Lions Crumbling Attack is classified as a chakra absorption technique so if it was to scale you would see the same effects that Oonoki's dust release had on Susanoo where any spot the attack landed, it would leave behind an opening in the Susanoo itself.

 

[salamander uchiha]

Yes it is the fundamentals are and completely do the same and even in the description it says a form of gentle fist

No it doesnt stop making up fanfic. The Hyuga have developed a GF tech based off the 80 vacuum palms called the vacuum palm. If it was a GF tech the Hyuga would still be using it even at a weaker level and wouldn't need to make their own technique.

 

[DeadManWonderLand]

Yes it is the fundamentals are and completely do the same and even in the description it says a form of gentle fist

If i had remembered the name to this justu i would have mentioned this as well.This is a clear example of susanoo being taken down t

 

[Reviewing Logic]

That's not a GF technique please read the manga he'll it's not even a Byakugan technique.

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No active Byakugan with it's use but their is an active rinnesharingan. At least we know what the perfect dojutsu is:bdpf:

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I wonder which images has her using precision strikes and which one (ahem your image) she is not.

You can use GF without having your byakugan on it is just less accurate.

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[Made in Heaven]

That's not a GF technique please read the manga he'll it's not even a Byakugan technique.

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No active Byakugan when it's used.

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The following page no active Byakugan until Naruto starts surrounding her. So it's confirmed that it's not a Byakugan jutsu anyway. No active Byakugan with it's use but their is an active rinnesharingan. At least we know what the perfect dojutsu is:bdpf:

Hinata using Air Palm without Byakugan.

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Hinata using Twin Lions Surging Shot without Byakugan.

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Madara using Susano'O without Mangekyo Sharingan.

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Try another excuse. :lol

No it doesnt stop making up fanfic. The Hyuga have developed a GF tech based off the 80 vacuum palms called the vacuum palm. If it was a GF tech the Hyuga would still be using it even at a weaker level and wouldn't need to make their own technique.

Vacuum Palm is a weaker version of Vacuum Attack, the Databook straight up says the techniques are similar but have a wide gulf in power.

 

[Styles]

Hell nah..... Unless they're Kaguya or have chakra similar to hers or more than the Susano'o user.

 

[Reviewing Logic]

Hell nah..... Unless they're Kaguya or have chakra similar to hers or more than the Susano'o user.

the title says GF so the style not the user

this isn't HYUGA fist and Kaguya was the first GF user on Earth

 

[Michael]

No it doesnt stop making up fanfic. The Hyuga have developed a GF tech based off the 80 vacuum palms called the vacuum palm. If it was a GF tech the Hyuga would still be using it even at a weaker level and wouldn't need to make their own technique.

The name of Kaguya's technique is eighty gods vacuum palm, it is gentle fist albeit god tier.

 

[Rock Slayer]

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Nice! Kaguya is officially the OP Queen of the Byakugan.

 

[Reviewing Logic]

The name of Kaguya's technique is eighty gods vacuum palm, it is gentle fist albeit god tier.

or rather original tier since the Hyuga inherited it, or more precisely Hamura's descendents

we don't know if Toneri's clan also has the style and if Kaguya had it that means other Otsutsuki might have it as well

 

[salamander uchiha]

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I wonder which images has her using precision strikes and which one (ahem your image) she is not.

You can use GF without having your byakugan on it is just less accurate.

Read the response below and Kaguya uses hair needles(I think) to seal Sasuke's points. And when she does use Byakugan it's against multi dimerectional attacks. Anyeay still waiting for the proof that vacuum fists is a GF jutsu.

Hinata using Air Palm without Byakugan.

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Hinata using Twin Lions Surging Shot without Byakugan.

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Madara using Susano'O without Mangekyo Sharingan.

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Try another excuse. :lol

Vacuum Palm is a weaker version of Vacuum Attack, the Databook straight up says the techniques are similar but have a wide gulf in power.

No vacuum palm isn't a weaker version of 80 vacuum fist because the Hyuga van tone down the power output of a jutsu and they wouldn't need to invent a jutsu based off of it to produce similar effects. Try again and come back with some actual proof of it being a GF technique not hopes.

Nobody disputed that GF jutsu can be used without the Byakugan. However the databook mentions the jutsu is used with the perfect dojutsu. The only dojutsu active in all instances is the rinne sharingan. In fact kaguya only activates the Byakugan ehen she's faced on multiple sides.

The name of Kaguya's technique is eighty gods vacuum palm, it is gentle fist albeit god tier.

No it's not the databook doesn't refer to it as a GF technique unless you have the scan.

 

[unknownvillain1254]

No it doesnt stop making up fanfic. The Hyuga have developed a GF tech based off the 80 vacuum palms called the vacuum palm. If it was a GF tech the Hyuga would still be using it even at a weaker level and wouldn't need to make their own technique.

How good they basic off of 80 vacuum Palms when they want even alive during this time. When she was alive

 

[Made in Heaven]

No vacuum palm isn't a weaker version of 80 vacuum fist

Databook says otherwise.

because the Hyuga van tone down the power output of a jutsu and they wouldn't need to invent a jutsu based off of it to produce similar effects.

The Vacuum Palm is toned down in comparison to Vacuum Attack due to lower chakra levels, no Rikudo Chakra, and the lack of shape manipulation in use.

Nobody disputed that GF jutsu can be used without the Byakugan.

Oh, okay, That's why you showed scans of Kaguya without Byakugan to argue Vacuum Attack isn't a Byakugan technique

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However the databook mentions the jutsu is used with the perfect dojutsu.

Wrong. The databook says "when used in conjunction with her perfect dojutsu". In conjunction = As a combination. Like saying Naruto can use Rasengan in conjunction with Wind Style to form Rasenshuriken for more power or how Hinata can use Vacuum Palm in conjunction with Byakugan for more accuracy.

Meaning it can in fact be used without Byakugan even though it is still a Byakugan technique just like what Hinata did with Vacuum Palm.

The only dojutsu active in all instances is the rinne sharingan. In fact kaguya only activates the Byakugan ehen she's faced on multiple sides.

So you're saying a technique that functions like a Byakugan technique and is compared directly to a Byakugan technique by Kishimoto is a RenniSharingan technique?

Good joke.

 

[Azarath Metrion Zinthos]

Hinata using Air Palm without Byakugan.

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Hinata using Twin Lions Surging Shot without Byakugan.

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Madara using Susano'O without Mangekyo Sharingan.

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Try another excuse. :lol

Vacuum Palm is a weaker version of Vacuum Attack, the Databook straight up says the techniques are similar but have a wide gulf in power.

:wut: Quite an inevitable fact though that Byakugan doesn't really have an input in the attacks and only functions primarily as an auxiliary factor and not even mandatory in the use of those techniques, and as any with logic can decipher, Air Palm with or without Byakugan has the same power output. Thus that cements the fact Byakugan doesn't really boost it, as Kaguya would still triumphantly obliterate a Perfect Susanoo VERY EASILY even without the set of eyes, because of her overwhelming power which has no correlation with a Hyuuga of the norm... that sets the standard for the Gentle Fist practitioner we're referring to.

Otherwise if it is Kaguya's standard of Gentle Fist, then absolutely, but then we'd have to take JJ Madara's hypothetical Susanoo into the equation if we are to be fair here, which nullifies the argument since we have no shed of idea how potent Madara's P.S. would be with all that chakra at his disposal, but we got a glimpse into how strong it would be through Sasuke using the Tailed Beast's chakra to supplement his, but that was only a fraction of the Juubi's chakra, but I think that establishes the fact that Susanoo is just another level if we take away redundant chakra levels of a gods and only consider the naturally born Uchiha and Hyuuga, in which case Perfect Susanoo can never be harmed.